Carroll v. Trump ($88 million judgment for Carroll)

[n_huffhines]

It's the VN all-class team right there

 

[OrangeBoro]

Wow, can't believe this case didn't have its own thread already. Former President being accused of rape and we're just like "meh".

So what's you take on the likely verdict? I think Carroll prevails.

That’s because no one other than you far left nut jobs GAF about this

 

[NurseGoodVol]

Does that mean he has to register as a sex offender?

I think it’s civil, not criminal.

 

[Septic]

Any bets on the award being greatly reduced on appeal?

He's a "billionaire", $5m should be chump change.

Why would they want to keep this in the spotlight?

 

[BowlBrother85]

Does that mean he has to register as a sex offender?

This was just a civil proceeding. This is still an unprecedented event, however. A former President being found liable for a sexual battery in a civil lawsuit? Wow.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Have you run out of hand lotion & a box of Kleenex already?

Well that was a weird and out of context retort from VN's local Retweeter Bot.

 

[rekinhavoc]

Not that I wouldn’t rejoice greatly to see Trump bow out of the 2024 election to clear the path for an actual effective conservative; but Trump had about as much of a chance of getting a fair trail in NYC as I would have of locating someone with 32 teeth in Bryant Denny Stadium

I don't think the death by a thousand lawsuits is going to stop him.

He will mention the location of the trial and how unfair it was.

 

[rekinhavoc]

This was just a civil proceeding. This is still an unprecedented event, however. A former President being found liable for a sexual battery in a civil lawsuit? Wow.

Should have settled with her like Clinton.

 

[BowlBrother85]

I don't think the death by a thousand lawsuits is going to stop him.

He will mention the location of the trial and how unfair it was.

He plays the put-upon victim role very well ... and his supporters follow along every time.

 

[TheDeeble]

What level of proof has to be presented for something like this decision as a civil ruling? Is there anything more than she said/he said that was presented?

 

[evillawyer]

Hey Siri, show me some desperate spin from the Trump leg-humpers

 

[rekinhavoc]

He plays the victim role very well ... and his supporters follow along every time.

He won't make it. Probably won't get the nomination, will run 3rd party , and hand deliver to Joe. See Sarah Palin.

 

[evillawyer]

What level of proof has to be presented for something like this decision as a civil ruling? Is there anything more than she said/he said that was presented?

Civil standard is preponderance of the evidence.

 

[hog88]

Does that mean he has to register as a sex offender?

No

 

[evillawyer]

DeSantis right now:

 

[hog88]

He's a "billionaire", $5m should be chump change.

Why would they want to keep this in the spotlight?

Oh I think Trumps team will spin this as persecution so appealing should be expected. Plus not appealing would be spun as an admission of guilt.

 

[BowlBrother85]

What level of proof has to be presented for something like this decision as a civil ruling? Is there anything more than she said/he said that was presented?

The plaintiff only has to prove their case by a preponderance of the evidence. That means that the plaintiff just has to show that the matter in dispute, is more likely than not to have occurred.

There is no "beyond a reasonable doubt" burden of proof like in a criminal trial.

 

[OrangeTsar]

What level of proof has to be presented for something like this decision as a civil ruling? Is there anything more than she said/he said that was presented?

If that’s all it takes and I am Tara Reade, I am already on the phone with my lawyers. Let’s do this

 

[OrangeTsar]

I assume this will of course be appealed

 

[BowlBrother85]

No

Right ... but I'm pretty sure the state of New York will require him to register as a dirty old man.

 

[BowlBrother85]

If that’s all it takes and I am Tara Reade, I am already on the phone with my lawyers. Let’s do this

What does the American Pie chick have to do with this?

 

[evillawyer]

 

[BowlBrother85]

A case with a sexual component to it, albeit a civil case, is much different than what the SDNY is bringing to the table. I don't think this helps him with independent voters ... especially women.

Once again, Trump does not come across favorably in the deposition. That video makes it pretty clear that he does not respect women at all.

 

[Septic]

Oh I think Trumps team will spin this as persecution so appealing should be expected. Plus not appealing would be spun as an admission of guilt.

That's fair, I think it'd be a tall ask to overturn or set aside a jury's decision but I'm no lawyur.

 

[hog88]

That's fair, I think it'd be a tall ask to overturn or set aside a jury's decision but I'm no lawyur.

I'd bet the award is reduced but not overturned. But I'm not a dirty lawyer either.