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#202
#202
JMSqb11 said:
TCU loses a game and LSU can play their way in. Tennessee is not fighting with anyone. We are going to the playoff with an 11-1 record.

LSU’s sole hope on making playoff depend on TCU dropping a game and winning in Atlanta vs Georgia.

USC needs a TCU loss and LSU loss (likely Atlanta vs Georgia)

Tennessee is a lock to go to CFP.
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If TCU and USC win out, they are going to the playoff with Georgia and Ohio State/Michigan, regardless of what happens in the SEC Championship.
 
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#203
#203
JMSqb11 said:
TCU loses a game and LSU can play their way in. Tennessee is not fighting with anyone. We are going to the playoff with an 11-1 record.

LSU’s sole hope on making playoff depend on TCU dropping a game and winning in Atlanta vs Georgia.

USC needs a TCU loss and LSU loss (likely Atlanta vs Georgia)

Tennessee is a lock to go to CFP.
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you are assuming the committee won't jump teams - they are as likely to honor a conf champ as they are not. I can see them valuing spreading the conference wealth.
 
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#204
#204
iWishItWasTheWeekend said:
LSU also lost to Florida State as well as for best by 4 touchdowns at home.
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A FSU team that is surging to close the season and could very well be inside top 15 after 12 games.

CFP very clearly values quality of wins. That is the only justification for a 2 loss LSU being ranked ahead of 1 loss USC. This isn’t rocket science.
 
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#205
#205
615vols said:
How so what? If usc closes out with 3 ranked wins and a conference championship, finishing as a 1 loss conference champ will most likely get them into the playoff over a 1 loss team with no conference championship. If Lsu wins out and beats Georgia in the sec title game, They would have a shot to sneak in as well.
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LSU finishing 11-2 with SEC title over #1 Georgia would be ranked ahead of 12-1 USC with a PAC12 title. Not sure what you are confused about.
 
#206
#206
JMSqb11 said:
Says who? You act like an 11-2 LSU SEC Champ with two Top 10 wins would have a weaker resumè than a 12-1 USC PAC12 champ with zero Top 10 wins….

And I clearly said LSU needs help and that is TCU dropping a game. The idea that Tennessee is somehow “battling” for a spot is absurd. We are going to the playoff.
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It’s not going to happen. You keep thinking you know when you don’t. If both USC and TCU wins out you will see how wrong you are.
 
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#207
#207
JMSqb11 said:
A FSU team that is surging to close the season and could very well be inside top 15 after 12 games.

CFP very clearly values quality of wins. That is the only justification for a 2 loss LSU being ranked ahead of 1 loss USC. This isn’t rocket science.
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Yes, but you are not acknowledging that USC will finish the season against 3 straight ranked teams, culminating in a Pac 12 Championship if they win out.

Hell, they will probably jump LSU in the playoff rankings after the regular season ends (provided they beat UCLA and Notre Dame).
 
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#209
JMSqb11 said:
12-1 with no top 10 wins and conference title or 11-2 with 2 top 7 wins and conference title….. i know which resumè is better.
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And Both would likely have an argument to get in over an 11-1 team who didn’t win their conference, which is the point. We definitely need usc to drop a game.
 
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#210
615vols said:
How so what? If usc closes out with 3 ranked wins and a conference championship, finishing as a 1 loss conference champ will most likely get them into the playoff over a 1 loss team with no conference championship. If Lsu wins out and beats Georgia in the sec title game, They would have a shot to sneak in as well.
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If LSU beats UGA there is no sneaking in. LSU gets in regardless of what happens to any other team.
 
#211
#211
This committee is totally going to put TCU in the playoff when they don’t belong there and everyone knows they don’t. Feels just like the 2012 BCS Championship when everyone knew Notre Dame didn’t belong there and they were going to get destroyed.

They are putting way too much emphasis on their record rather than using their eyes and brains to see that team would get destroyed by anyone currently ranked in the top 10.
 
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#212
JMSqb11 said:
LSU finishing 11-2 with SEC title over #1 Georgia would be ranked ahead of 12-1 USC with a PAC12 title. Not sure what you are confused about.
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I’m not confused. However you seem to be struggling to grasp that a 1 loss conference champion usc would likely get the nod over a 1 loss Tennessee who didn’t win their own conference.
 
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#214
iWishItWasTheWeekend said:
Yes, but you are not acknowledging that USC will finish the season against 3 straight ranked teams, culminating in a Pac 12 Championship.

Hell, they will probably jump LSU in the college rankings after the regular season ends.
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USC will play 3 teams ranked outside of the TOp 10 (Utah wins, stay at #10/Oregon wins, outside #10) to close the season while LSU will close the season vs the #1 team… I’m pretty sure beating the #1 team trumps beating 3 top “teen” teams……
 
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#215
I Love Lamp said:
This committee is totally going to put TCU in the playoff when they don’t belong there and everyone knows they don’t. Feels just like the 2012 BCS Championship when everyone knew Notre Dame didn’t belong there and they were going to get destroyed.

They are putting way too much emphasis on their record rather than using their eyes and brains to see that team would get destroyed by anyone currently ranked in the top 10.
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So the committee will put TCU in if they lose a game or 2?
 
#217
#217
615vols said:
And Both would likely have an argument to get in over an 11-1 team who didn’t win their conference, which is the point. We definitely need usc to drop a game.
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LSU loses the argument. USC can’t win argument if team that loses argument is ranked ahead of them. 11-1 Tennessee is ranked ahead of 11-2 LSU who is ranked ahead of 12-1 USC.
 
#218
#218
I’m so tired of hearing about LSU. It will take an act of God or UGA throwing the game in the SEC championship. They’re not getting in, period! So just stop with that nonsense. If one of the 2 above things happen, then Lord strike me dead, but talking about the miracle it would take to get them in at this point is beyond beating a dead horse.
 
#219
#219
615vols said:
I’m not confused. However you seem to be struggling to grasp that a 1 loss conference champion usc would likely get the nod over a 1 loss Tennessee who didn’t win their own conference.
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USC can’t get in without jumping LSU. If LsU runs the table and beats Georgia, USC will not be ahead of them. Even with a 12-1 conference title. LSU can’t jump us because of the head to head. So this notion that USC is a threat to Tennessee is delusion until 1- LSU loses a game or 2- USC jumps LSU….
 
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#220
#220
JMSqb11 said:
LSU loses the argument. USC can’t win argument if team that loses argument is ranked ahead of them. 11-1 Tennessee is ranked ahead of 11-2 LSU who is ranked ahead of 12-1 USC.
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No way Tennessee gets in over lsu if they win out and become sec champs with a win over Georgia. In that case, you’d probably be watching lsu Georgia Ohio state and usc in the playoff.
 
#223
#223
615vols said:
No way Tennessee gets in over lsu if they win out and become sec champs with a win over Georgia. In that case, you’d probably be watching lsu Georgia Ohio state and usc in the playoff.
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Only way LSU makes the playoff is if they go 11-2 and TCU drops a game. Then LSU clinched the 4 spot while UGA and Tennessee are 2/3 and OSU/Michigan are 1.

LSU only makes the playoff in a 3 SEC team in playoff scenario. Tennessee IS GOING to the playoff with 11-1 record. TCU goes 13-0, LSU is shut out of playoff regardless if they beat Georgia.
 
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#224
#224
JMSqb11 said:
USC can’t get in without jumping LSU. If LsU runs the table and beats Georgia, USC will not be ahead of them. Even with a 12-1 conference title. LSU can’t jump us because of the head to head. So this notion that USC is a threat to Tennessee is delusion until 1- LSU loses a game or 2- USC jumps LSU….
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LSU plays UAB and Texas A&M in the next two weeks. USC plays UCLA and Notre Dame. Because these rankings change week to week, USC will jump LSU if they go 2-0 over the next two weeks. Then, if they somehow win the Pac 12 against another ranked opponent in the championship game, they will jump Tennessee.

How can you not see this?
 
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#225
#225
BigOrangeTrain said:
#16 UCLA
#18 ND
Either #10 Utah or #12 Oregon


That’s USCs next 3 games. If they win out that’s the most impressive 3 game stretch of any team in the top 25 to finish the season. If you don’t think a 1 OT loss USC P12 champ isn’t getting in after those wins it’s you who are clueless.
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“Getting in” ≠ moving ahead of Tennessee. If their season thus far with one close loss isn’t enough to move them ahead of 2-loss LSU, they’re not jumping UT regardless of what happens. We will almost certainly never find out, though, because the likelihood of them winning all three of those games is very small.
 
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