Charlie Strong

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VOLorNuttin said:
As far as recruiting goes, I think beyond Gruden, Strong would give us the biggest boost. His ties/connections in South Florida should prove to be golden for us. Teddy Bridgewater was coveted by many a program larger than Louisville, and yet he turned a deaf ear to all of them, just to come play for coach Strong.

That speaks volumes. Strong could oversee the defense, keep Chaney, Pittman and Graham and hit the ground running. No rebuilding involved. And I personally think he'd endear himself to the players so quickly, that CP and Hunter would seriously consider returning.
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For the millionth time, Strong did not recruit Bridgewater, Hurtt did. Bridgewater was among a dozen Miami guys Hurtt brought in stemming from his time in miami, during which he broke multiple ncaa rules. Read up on Nevin Shapiro and Hurtt and look at where those guys really came from.
 
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tvols75 said:
Those 3 haven't proven anything in SEC. Strong has.
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As a coordinator. Sunseri was a proven positions coach in the SEC, we saw how that turned out...


And he was coaching at an NC winning program, it's a little different when you're rebuilding a program with no in state recruiting base.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
As a coordinator. Sunseri was a proven positions coach in the SEC, we saw how that turned out...


And he was coaching at an NC winning program, it's a little different when you're rebuilding a program with no in state recruiting base.
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You mean like he just did at Louisville? You see the crap he inherited? You can argue conference all you want but he came in and won, and you can't cite a vast talent gap.
 
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tvols75 said:
You mean like he just did at Louisville? You see the crap he inherited? You can argue conference all you want but he came in and won, and you can't cite a vast talent gap.
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Came in and won only this year. Prior to this year he was 14-12. Not to mention this years schedule he played sucked.

If you guys are willing to roll the dice on that you are better betting men than I.
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
He is a good recruiter, that's it. He should be undefeated right now with that loaded roster and a weak schedule. He might not be a bad coach, but he won't get us where we want to be. We would be fighting for 3rd in the East every years r. I'd rather have Strong, higher ceiling.
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1-2 against NC State. Even Dooley beat them. FSU is the Texas of Florida. Easy recruiting grounds give them a loaded roster, and year after year they squander it in an inferior conference. Fisher wouldn't have such an easy recruiting job at UT AND he'd be in a tougher conference. What makes people think he'd do better when everything at UT is harder than FSU?
 
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BurnieVeazey said:
For the millionth time, Strong did not recruit Bridgewater, Hurtt did. Bridgewater was among a dozen Miami guys Hurtt brought in stemming from his time in miami, during which he broke multiple ncaa rules. Read up on Nevin Shapiro and Hurtt and look at where those guys really came from.
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Lmao. Prove that. Clown
 
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Escape Goat said:
He commited to play for Louisville and strong. Not some fat sack of crap that may or may not be there three months from now. So everyone that commits to Nama did it for a recruiter, but not to play for Saban? Makes sense. Clown
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If you cant draw a direct line between a dirty miami assistant coach getting a job at louisville and having half the entire class come from miami, there really is no hope for you.

Nama is a sushi joint last I checked.
 
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BurnieVeazey said:
For the millionth time, Strong did not recruit Bridgewater, Hurtt did. Bridgewater was among a dozen Miami guys Hurtt brought in stemming from his time in miami, during which he broke multiple ncaa rules. Read up on Nevin Shapiro and Hurtt and look at where those guys really came from.
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For the millionth time, Strong was THE reason Bridgewater committed to Louisville period. I read an ESPN article a few weeks back, that recalled his recruitment process and how his sick mom wanted him to get away so he wouldn't be so consumed with her illness and such. She mentioned in the article about promises Coach Strong made to Teddy and how she entrusted him to take good care of her son, etc.

So, just because there were assistants leading the effort, it doesn't mean the HC wasn't heavily involved. In fact, you don't seem to know much about recruiting, if you honestly believe Strong had no bearing in his decision. HC's are usually "The Closers."

I couldn't seem to dig up the article, but here is one where Bridgewater states he believed Strong when he told him he'd be there all 4yrs. If Strong wasn't heavily involved in his recruitment, then why is Bridgewater concerned with a promise made about staying? Hhhhmm?

Teddy Bridgewater Isn
 
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daniel3417 said:
What's the hype around Charlie Strong?:

21 years of SEC experience.

Defensive success everywhere.

Passion for coaching.

Resurrected a Louisville program that went 15-21 in previous three years before his arrival (Dooley's record at Tennessee was 15-21)

Taking Louisville to its third-straight bowl game for the first time since Bobby Petrino.

Inherited a 4-8 team and took them to 10-2 in three years.

Taking Louisville to its second-ever BCS bowl (pending Cincy win over UConn, highly likely).

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If you want a "big name", fine. Who are "big names" outside of Gruden and Patterson? It doesn't look like any celebrities are looking towards Knoxville. But if you ask "what's the deal with Strong?", just read above.
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ok he is 10-2 this yr against opponents whose combined record is 57-81 and only beat 4 teams with winning records.

KENTUCKY 2-10
MIZZOU STATE 3-8
UNC 8-4
FIU 3-9
USM 0-12
PITT 5-6
USF 3-8
CINCY 8-3
TEMPLE 4-7
SYRACUSE 7-5
UCONN 5-6
RUTGERS 9-3


I see now...even if the Big East didnt have an automatic berth in the BCS with his Strength of Schedule he was in for sure.......smh
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
ok he is 10-2 this yr against opponents whose combined record is 57-81 and only beat 4 teams with winning records.

KENTUCKY 2-10
MIZZOU STATE 3-8
UNC 8-4
FIU 3-9
USM 0-12
PITT 5-6
USF 3-8
CINCY 8-3
TEMPLE 4-7
SYRACUSE 7-5
UCONN 5-6
RUTGERS 9-3


I see now...even if the Big East didnt have an automatic berth in the BCS with his Strength of Schedule he was in for sure.......smh
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The guy was more qualified to be the UT Head Coach, when he was the DC at Florida still, than Dooley. His ability to turn a team routinely losing to....losing teams....is icing on the cake. Not the main reason to hire him.

It's not his fault the other teams in their conference aren't that great. Beating KY, Cincinnati, Rutgers (twice) and North Carolina is no small feat....for a program like Louisville.
 
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VOLorNuttin said:
The guy was more qualified to be the UT Head Coach, when he was the DC at Florida still, than Dooley. His ability to turn a team routinely losing to....losing teams....is icing on the cake. Not the main reason to hire him.

It's not his fault the other teams in their conference aren't that great. Beating KY, Cincinnati, Rutgers (twice) and North Carolina is no small feat....for a program like Louisville.
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I wasn't comparing him to Dooley....but to the other candidates that he is up against....No way he should be above Fisher or Patterson....or even Butch Davis.

Beating Ky...really....Rutgers only once bc they do not have a championship game. Their schedule is cake...if we played that...even with Dooley we would have same record
 
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Blackmarket803 said:
If you read my post correctly, I said to call Shaw in order to "gauge interest", i'm not saying it's a possibility, but you gotta call to find out. He's only making 1.5 at Stanford. Tell him you got 4M waiting on him and see what he says, the worst he can say is "no".
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I agree, it's not likely that Stoops, Shaw, Mora Jr, Petersen or even Patterson (although I think he would be the most likely of those mentioned to leave) would want to leave the schools that they are currently at, but you just don't know until you try.

If in the end we end up with Strong, then so be it. I would be on the fence with the hire until he proved something one way or the other.
 
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Good Saturday morning. Hopefully we are one day closer to hiring Coach Strong. We are off to watch my sons wrestling tourny today. Everyone have a blessed day!
 
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BigOrangeCrush32 said:
I wasn't comparing him to Dooley....but to the other candidates that he is up against....No way he should be above Fisher or Patterson....or even Butch Davis.

Beating Ky...really....Rutgers only once bc they do not have a championship game. Their schedule is cake...if we played that...even with Dooley we would have same record
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No way Dooley would have taken current team and won the Big East. Yes, Big East is NOT CLOSE to the SEC but Dooley wouldn't have taken our current roster and won none the less took UL's roster and won. Respectfully disagree, and this is no knock on our young men in Orange. It has everything to do with Coach Dooley.
 
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joshc said:
Would love to have him. He seems like a great guy, and his players love to play for him. I think he would recruit well here, and salvage our current class. He would improve our D. I'm excited about all the names associated with this search. Brighter days are ahead! And, it's about time,
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This:thumbsup:
 
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utkell65 said:
I agree, it's not likely that Stoops, Shaw, Mora Jr, Petersen or even Patterson (although I think he would be the most likely of those mentioned to leave) would want to leave the schools that they are currently at, but you just don't know until you try.

If in the end we end up with Strong, then so be it. I would be on the fence with the hire until he proved something one way or the other.
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I would be fine with a Strong hire. I just would not expect anything earth shattering. He reminds me alot of Butch Jones. Solid coach, who will give you the best he's got everyday. Maybe with the right staff CS could turn into an SEC contender. He could also never win more than 7-8 games. At 2.5 million a year, I think he would be an option.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
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I would be fine with a Strong hire. I just would not expect anything earth shattering. He reminds me alot of Butch Jones. Solid coach, who will give you the best he's got everyday. Maybe with the right staff CS could turn into an SEC contender. He could also never win more than 7-8 games. At 2.5 million a year, I think he would be an option.
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Give him time and it'll be more that 7-8 games. I think he can bring us back to the top.
 
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VFL44 said:
Give him time and it'll be more that 7-8 games. I think he can bring us back to the top.
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He could very well do just that. I think the problem that will come up is the UL AD already said he would pay what he needs to so that CS stays in Louisville. I don't think his resume supports getting into a bidding war over it IMO. My offer would be 2.5-2.75 million and if UL matches it, I would go on to the next guy. We could pay 4-5 million for a coach. I just don't think you over pay just to get someone to take the job.
 
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LebanonVolunteer said:
He could very well do just that. I think the problem that will come up is the UL AD already said he would pay what he needs to so that CS stays in Louisville. I don't think his resume supports getting into a bidding war over it IMO. My offer would be 2.5-2.75 million and if UL matches it, I would go on to the next guy.
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I agree with that, I want him but we shouldn't overspend. Skeeter mentioned it isn't all about money with Strong, he wants to coach in the SEC.
 
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