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Biden's Energy Department Counts Chinese Solar Industry Rep as Diversity 'Ambassador'

President Joe Biden's Energy Department counts as a diversity "ambassador" the head of a trade group that represents Chinese solar companies, including one that allegedly accepted slave laborers from the communist nation's government.

The Energy Department on its website lists Solar Energy Industries Association president and CEO Abby Hopper as one of its "Equity in Energy" ambassadors. The initiative, hosted under the department's "economic impact and diversity" office, "is designed to expand the inclusion and participation of individuals in underserved communities, such as minorities, women, veterans, and formerly incarcerated persons, in all the programs of the Department of Energy."

Biden's Energy Department Counts Chinese Solar Industry Rep as Diversity 'Ambassador'
 
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headhunter15 said:
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When we visited Cuba a few years ago, we rode on Chinese buses and the few new cars on the road were Chinese. The guide with us said the Chinese were working with them to rebuild infrastructure - power plants, railroad... It was just a matter of time before the Chinese militarized the place. This was a few months before the problems began with staff at the reopened US Embassy. Wouldn't be surprised to find that was a Chinese initiative to spike any real improvement in US/Cuban relations.

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85SugarVol said:
As a proud American that bleeds Navy blue, I’ll probably be labeled a heretic here….

But I’m going to keep preaching the “high end - low end” strategy. Especially with regards to countering China in the Pacific.

We need to get into Diesel-Electrics. And we don’t need to spend $B’s researching and developing our own.

The Japanese Taigei class is bad ass. A silent killer that can lay in wait submerged for 3 weeks at a time on lithium-ion’s.
6 torpedo tubes, and it can fire the Harpoon Block II. All the sensors, and it’s fast too.

The Virginia Block V is pushing $4B.
The Taigei is about $700M per boat.

Reduce the Virginia class from 66 to 63, and field an 18 boat Taigei class (we can call them the “Orca” class?). Send them all to the Eastern Pacific.

It would enhance cooperation with Japan.
It would provide an asymmetric threat to China.
And it would put boats in greater numbers in the water.
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Take 2 away. ****

Australia To Get One New Build Virginia Class Submarine, Two From U.S. Navy
 
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Carl Pickens said:
All I’ve got to say is F China…. Right in the face.
They’re the worst of the worst and I didn’t even mention the Covid pandemic.
China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets - Congressman David Trone.

Lead-based paint in children's toys sold on China's major online shopping platforms - ScienceDirect

Chinese candy recalled after elevated levels of lead found

US declares China a currency manipulator, says it's using yuan to gain 'unfair advantage' in trade

https://theweek.com/articles/498611/made-china-seven-toxic-imports?amp

Chinese company recalls products suspected of African swine fever contamination

China lead poisoning 'cover-up' - BBC News
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China’s Role in Illicit Fentanyl Running Rampant on US Streets - Congressman David Trone

 
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Orangeburst said:
Take 2 away. ****

Australia To Get One New Build Virginia Class Submarine, Two From U.S. Navy
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We need more ship building capacity online, tomorrow.

This is nice to see though -
The Australian Senate hearings also underlined that far from a program of extended port visits with some maintenance and sustainment elements, the AUKUS-inspired Submarine Rotational Force – Western Australia (with the acronym SURF-West) at the Royal Australian Navy’s HMAS Stirling Fleet Base West near Perth appears to more closely resemble a substantial U.S. Navy Indian Ocean forward presence. This could include something akin to a forward-deployed attack submarine squadron than just a ‘rotational’ periodic stopover point amid broader U.S. Navy submarine deployments.
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Maybe we can get a triangle trade going with the Japanese.

Japan sends US the Taigei
US sends Australia Virginias
Australia sends Japan fine kangaroo pelts
 
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I love the idea of Mach 8 hypersonics as much as the next guy. But we need mass more than might.

Tomahawk Extended Range
Harpoon Extended Range
Standard Missile 6

They work. Build them. 1000’s of them.
 
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headhunter15 said:


We have a big damn China problem. The scary thing is, it’s been going on for multiple administrations. An actual Red Scare.
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The worst part is that a big bloc of the globalists were our politicians, and some are still in office. Our corporate and political globalists sold us out and funded China's military buildup, and don't expect any of them to take credit for the damage they've done.
 
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Is the Biden administration downplaying China's plans for an eavesdropping post in Cuba?

This is absolutely about China. But this is also about… Cuba.

Why would the United States sit idly by while Cuba let anyone build one of these on our doorstep?

Why is the US not putting the screws to Cuba? This is our backyard. China has no power here.

I understand Cuba is a sovereign nation. But allowing a hostile nation to set up shop 90 miles from Florida is an open act of aggression - by CUBA. Eff them and their sovereign status. They can go cry to the UN.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Is the Biden administration downplaying China's plans for an eavesdropping post in Cuba?

This is absolutely about China. But this is also about… Cuba.

Why would the United States sit idly by while Cuba let anyone build one of these on our doorstep?

Why is the US not putting the screws to Cuba? This is our backyard. China has no power here.

I understand Cuba is a sovereign nation. But allowing a hostile nation to set up shop 90 miles from Florida is an open act of aggression - by CUBA. Eff them and their sovereign status. They can go cry to the UN.
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Do we not have military and/or surveillance outposts in Mongolia and S. Korea?
 
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McDad said:
Do we not have military and/or surveillance outposts in Mongolia and S. Korea?
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Sure. We’ve got outposts in South Korea and Japan. Been there for decades.

We’ve been projecting power there for a long time - because we can.
China doesn’t project power in the Caribbean - because they can’t.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Sure. We’ve got outposts in South Korea and Japan. Been there for decades.

We’ve been projecting power there for a long time - because we can.
China doesn’t project power in the Caribbean - because they can’t.
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That reasoning sounds like it's acceptable for us because we've been doing it longer but not acceptable for China because it is recent.
 
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Don't know why anyone thinks we have any leverage wth Cuba since Trump eliminated most of the contacts and limited transactions. Biden is being too slow to reinstate them. The boon to the Farm Belt would be huge since they have huge food needs.

Cuba would kick China out tomorrow if we normalized relations. But no, we let bunch of rich Cubans in Miami dictate Cuban policy. They still want to "get back"ownership of the property they lost when they left Cuba. After 60 years that's not happening.

There are already plans for a fleet of high speed ferries to go back and forth from Key West to Cuba. I would love to see Cuba, but the Navy sent me to a school where I have to get Secretary of State permission to travel to a limited list of countries (I'm sure you can imagine the list) which includes Cuba. They basically said, don't bother us with requests, you're not getting permission. Not too upset about not visiting North Korea or Iran.
 
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McDad said:
That reasoning sounds like it's acceptable for us because we've been doing it longer but not acceptable for China because it is recent.
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Sort of, but not what I’m getting at. I’m not really arguing “acceptable”.

China can choose to do something about our presence in Korea, Japan, or Taiwan if they don’t like us there (they don’t). But we’re there. They know it, and understand what that means.

China is not in the Caribbean. They cannot project power there. But we are, and we can.

The two situations are not comparable from a standpoint of what actually can and cannot be done. I guess that’s not fair, but it is what is.
 
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85SugarVol said:
Sort of, but not what I’m getting at. I’m not really arguing “acceptable”.

China can choose to do something about our presence in Korea, Japan, or Taiwan if they don’t like us there (they don’t). But we’re there. They know it, and understand what that means.

China is not in the Caribbean. They cannot project power there. But we are, and we can.

The two situations are not comparable from a standpoint of what actually can and cannot be done. I guess that’s not fair, but it is what is.
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If China is in Cuba, is it not in the Caribbean?

Look, I really understand why some don't want China surveilling from 90 miles away. But I don't understand how we can be surveilling form land and space and think it is fine for us but not for them.

Russia surveilled from Cuba and that was relatively inconsequential as far as we know.
 
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McDad said:
If China is in Cuba, is it not in the Caribbean?

Look, I really understand why some don't want China surveilling from 90 miles away. But I don't understand how we can be surveilling form land and space and think it is fine for us but not for them.

Russia surveilled from Cuba and that was relatively inconsequential as far as we know.
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They aren’t in Cuba though. Not yet.

I’m not saying it’s “fine” for us and not them. I’m saying they can’t do anything about us being there - not now.

We can do something about Cuba throwing open it’s doors to China. In a way that China cannot do about Taiwan or Japan - not at this point.

I’m not saying it’s “right”, or “fair”, or even.

China simply cannot operate over here like we operate over there. Not yet anyway. They certainly would like to.
 
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