Chinese spy balloon hovering over Montana

[BowlBrother85]

But it didn't and we not only conducted a successful exercise we gained mountains of intel from it. The only "blunder" was by the Soviets and their failure to recognize it was an exercise.

You're trying way to hard.

You also have to remember that it was only about 2 months after the false alarm incident. A guy named Stanislav Petrov saved the world, basically. Was November of 1983 such a great time to be conducting this crap?

 

[hog88]

But honestly, 83 would have not been a good year to have kicked that off.

I'm thinking 87 or 88 would have been the best.

Maybe the timing was bad but it still wasn't a national security blunder.

 

[hog88]

You also have to remember that it was only about 2 months after the false alarm incident. A guy named Stanislav Petrov saved the world, basically. Was November of 1983 such a great time to be conducting this crap?

Turns out it was.

 

[volfanhill]

"Bloomberg reported Sunday, citing a senior administration official, that the U.S. didn’t learn about the prior balloon flights until after Trump had left the White House."


Huh?

 

[WoodsmanVol]

Totally serious. To claim “Nazism” is a huge thing. I would hope you could name at least one policy.

Nope, been there done that, rinsed and repeated over and over. One of the tactics is already revealed. One person asks for information, right away his friends (or just liked minded folks) jump in on attack even before anything is given in replay. And then continue mocking insults nonstop. Homey don't play that.

 

[WoodsmanVol]

This guy went from non stop but but but Trump to now but but but Reagan. They really struggle defending their hero the corrupt POS

Stop playing with your butt, boy, you'll get stinky fingers as a result. It just ain't sanitary.

 

[hog88]

"Bloomberg reported Sunday, citing a senior administration official, that the U.S. didn’t learn about the prior balloon flights until after Trump had left the White House."


Huh?

yeah, none of that makes any sense.

 

[ETV]

But honestly, 83 would have not been a good year to have kicked that off.

I'm thinking 87 or 88 would have been the best.

I thought I remember something about the soviets shooting down a 747 in September of '83.

 

[Orangeburst]

I thought I remember something about the soviets shooting down a 747 in September of '83.

With the GA Congressman onboard.

 

[BowlBrother85]

"Bloomberg reported Sunday, citing a senior administration official, that the U.S. didn’t learn about the prior balloon flights until after Trump had left the White House."


Huh?

yeah, none of that makes any sense.

Biden admin offers to brief Trump officials on past Chinese spy balloon incursions

 

[Orangeburst]

Still doesn't make sense unless the IC did not tell the President. That would be even worse.

 

[DaddyChad]

Biden admin offers to brief Trump officials on past Chinese spy balloon incursions

Didn’t know about it at the time but suddenly know about it when it’s convenient to shift the narrative? Again that makes zero sense. How did they suddenly become aware of past spy activity?

 

[hog88]

Biden admin offers to brief Trump officials on past Chinese spy balloon incursions

If these allegations are true which is highly doubtful there are a multitude of officials that need to be held to account to include possible criminal charges.

Sounds like the Biden administration is grasping at straws.

 

[Orangeburst]

Everything they do or say has some Trump factor.

 

[DaddyChad]

This isn’t complicated, America has a right to defend its air space regardless of who is in office. The president has a responsibility to defend American air space. No one is saying go to war with China but at the same time you must defend your own country.

 

[Grand Vol]

I thought I remember something about the soviets shooting down a 747 in September of '83.

I was saying if NATO wanted to go toe to toe with the Warsaw Pact, 88 would have been a better year. 7 years of Reagan upgrading the military and we had a huge technology gap on them as well as better numbers than we had before.

I don't think NATO was quite ready in the early 80s. But in the late 80s, cracks were already forming against the Eastern Bloc and I think a lot of the Warsaw Pact would have turned on the Soviets.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Didn’t know about it at the time but suddenly know about it when it’s convenient to shift the narrative? Again that makes zero sense. How did they suddenly become aware of past spy activity?

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

 

[Orangeburst]

Probably in some classified docs in Biden's garage.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

Didn't Trump brag that he didn't need to attend security meetings?

 

[hog88]

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

Even better why not just release the proof? Put it out in public, what possible national security would be compromised?

 

[volfanhill]

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

If you can't see this for what it is then there is no hope.

 

[IluvdoubleD's]

China just claimed the balloon over LAmerica, and Columbia said it was no threat and let it go.

Second balloon over Latin America is ours - China

 

[DaddyChad]

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

Just seems like everything circles back to blaming Trump.

 

[volfanhill]

Those are good questions. The former Trump Administration officials should take the meeting, and see what the Biden people are talking about.

If this were true then we should not be worrying about meetings with former Trump officials. We should be **** canning a ton of people in our intelligence community, panicking that NORAD is ****, and figuring out how to make sure it never happens again.

 

[lawgator1]

Just seems like everything circles back to blaming Trump.

No one is "blaming" Trump. Not even me. And in fact I'm not even critical for his administration for lack of response when he was in office. As I said, it sounds like those incursions were very brief, this one much more significant.

I think it is relevant only to show that this is not, entirely, a one off, so not necessarily something to cause a major alarm in the military or intelligence circles, which have seen it before. This explains why there was not the same level of intensity in those circles as in the public generally when it learned of it.

My guess is that there is a whole lot of Sh%t that goes on fairly routinely that we never hear of but would cause a lot of angst for the public if it became generally known.