Chris Dortch analysis on Zo on 104.5

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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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Different guy that showed up for Xavier #1, UTEP, TAMU, NC ST and Vandy? Who's he?
 
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Is there anyway Zo could just hire an offensive specialist to join the staff. I love the defensive mindset but if we could just get an offensive guy to come and fix the issues.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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the shots were falling so the coach did not need to call a timeout or draw up a play or do anything but wipe his brow and drink gatorade and water
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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Bama isn't an impressive (or good) win.
 
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VOLnMiami said:
Bama sucks and Xavier is nothing special and we split with them...Virginia is ok and LSU is highly overrated...Talent alone won those games and we just jumped on UVA early and often and pounded them...We are just better than LSU....Teams get hot sometimes and make the coaching look good....This staff is terrible and honestly it would not surprise me if We end up close to .500 before the season is over...Mizzou on the road and home are not going to be easy and We still got Kentucky for one more game...UGA might give us a game too...I hate feeling this way and hope we win them all but damn its hard to believe in this team after watching them all season.
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We only play KY once this year. Here's the remaining schedule.

02/15/14 at Missouri * Columbia, Mo. 4:00 p.m. ET
02/18/14 vs. Georgia * Knoxville 9:00 p.m. ET
02/22/14 at Texas A&M * College Station, Texas 3:00 p.m. ET
02/26/14 at Mississippi State * Starkville, Miss. 8:00 p.m. ET
03/01/14 vs. Vanderbilt * Knoxville 12:00 p.m. ET
03/05/14 at Auburn * Auburn, Ala. 8:00 p.m. ET
03/08/14 vs. Missouri * Knoxville 4:00 p.m. ET
 
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Would love nothing more than to have Gregg Marshall as the coach here. He is a coach and a motivator. Wichy St is on a roll and that could have been us if Hammy had of hired him instead of Zo
 
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Sin City Vol said:
The issue here is we're beating inferior teams. The truth is Martin is not a very good coach. He has no clue and how to handle the talent he has. I don't feel he has an identity as a coach other than in the beginning they played tough D. He needs to go...I would love to have Bruce back but it's not happening. He won't be fired unless we start seeing 3,000 people at the games and those leave at halftime
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Virginia is gonna be ranked top 15 and we beat them by 35, not sure how "inferior" they are.
 
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calban said:
Different guy that showed up for Xavier #1, UTEP, TAMU, NC ST and Vandy? Who's he?
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That's why my stance has been more about complaining on consistency rather than just saying he's a horrible coach.

Beat the UTEPs, A&Ms, Nc States and Vandys and we are sitting right where people thought we would be, or better.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's why my stance has been more about complaining on consistency rather than just saying he's a horrible coach.

Beat the UTEPs, A&Ms, Nc States and Vandys and we are sitting right where people thought we would be, or better.
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I believe that's the problem that most people are referring to when they talk about the coach and team not performing. We didn't beat those teams. We haven't beaten those teams consistently, which causes the fans to begin to wonder and place blame. By not beating those teams consistently, we haven't been able to approach "where we should be" and the fan frustration continues to mount. The problem for me...I don't think we will be able to consistently beat those teams with Martin at the helm.
 
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NYC Vol said:
Lifted this off another site. Heard the first minute or so of the interview but had to run.

Lack of screens, terrible perimeter defense, Florida knew our plays and Coach doesn't run any counter plays to confuse a well coached team, simply doesn't get his best shooter open shots (pointed out the frustration from JordyMac)..Talked about some opposing coaches ripping how poorly coached Tennessee is this year...

Tony Jones was on Basilio yesterday and had very similar things to say. I know some might look at it as spite from Jones but what he says is no different than a lot of people here on this site (and others). Lack of structure. No adjusting. Just poor overall coaching.
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I actually caught the Tony Jones analysis of the UF game on the radio yesterday. He brought up a lot of good points, similar to others and his best point, I thought, was the last minute and a half of the game. I have no problem with any of that, but then he said this:

"I don't get it, ya know, being a former coach and a coach that has had some success and a coach that coached at the University of Tennessee, a guy that loves that university, 2 daughters graduated from that place and I call this place home.

It's troubling to see the Volunteer faithful be disappointed. I want the fans to be happy."

Really Coach Jones? You are troubled because the fan base is disappointed and unhappy? Really?

I'm sorry...that's rich.

He goes on to say, that he loves Jordan McRae and that he recruited him, Maymon and Stokes then he says, "I want these guys to have success and it's just not happening and I don't know why. ..um...it's very disappointing Tony, very disappointing.


Really Coach, really? You love them, you want them to have success? Really.

What were you thinking 3 years ago coach, about the faithful fans, about the players having success? Seems like to this faithful fan you were more concerned about saving your own hide, with no concern for the fans or the players.

That's not basketball analysis, I don't know what it is, but it's not basketball analysis.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
That's why my stance has been more about complaining on consistency rather than just saying he's a horrible coach.

Beat the UTEPs, A&Ms, Nc States and Vandys and we are sitting right where people thought we would be, or better.
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Very puzzling. And frustrating.
 
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Florida is a good team and we played them very tough. Not sure why anyone would be upset with the outcome because they've beaten everyone else in the SEC as well and are just a couple of points of being an undefeated team.
 
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NYC Vol said:
I think when guys hit shots, it makes it easier for everyone. Every team is going to have games where they hit shots, particularly given the talent we have on our team. When Jordy gets off to a good start, it makes it easier for others.

But what happens when he doesn't? And did you see the shots he made vs Fla early on that he made? They were pure 1 on 1 plays. They didn't come off of any plays. They were McRae dribbling the ball and getting room (the first was from 23 feet or so).

We're going to win games because of the guys we have on our team. But we don't get help from the bench, particularly when things get tough. You said it the other night. Down 1 under 3 to go and we draw up a play to go to Maymon? We don't foul down 6 with 1:30 to go? Fla predictably runs down the clock under a minute to shoot.

He's just missing the coaching gene. And has no help from others on the bench. It's not that "we" don't like Zo. It's not that "we" think Pearl is the only coach that can win at UT. It's the same thing national/regional guys like Gary Parrish, Seth Davis, Andy Glockner and Chris Dortch are saying.

It's pretty much blasphemous for these guys to say a bad word about a coach. In the middle of year 3 these guys are openly questioning Zo. We're not just making stuff up.
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Well said NYC Vol, well said - and I raise you a "like".
 
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Martin was a filler hire. Not much was expected from him other than keeping the seat warm. Time to go find a real Basketball coach..
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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Don't underestimate how bad ∀lɐqɐɯɐ is this year. Anthony Grant is figuring out that place is a basketball abyss. Yes, we've had a bad overall record there in the past but they are as bad as Auburn this year. There's a good chance Grant might be available for an assistant job next year on Bruce's UT staff. (jk, had to stoke up the fires for fun)
 
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Dortch has been one of CCM's most ardent media supporters. I'm sure that pained him to say.



NYC Vol said:
Lifted this off another site. Heard the first minute or so of the interview but had to run.

Lack of screens, terrible perimeter defense, Florida knew our plays and Coach doesn't run any counter plays to confuse a well coached team, simply doesn't get his best shooter open shots (pointed out the frustration from JordyMac)..Talked about some opposing coaches ripping how poorly coached Tennessee is this year...

Tony Jones was on Basilio yesterday and had very similar things to say. I know some might look at it as spite from Jones but what he says is no different than a lot of people here on this site (and others). Lack of structure. No adjusting. Just poor overall coaching.
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golfballs said:
Wow. Takes quite the basketball genius to recognize that we've had some mediocre coaching...
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It's not that it takes a genius to say these things. I think it speaks volumes that journalists are finally saying something about Martin. From everything that I've read, just about everyone likes Martin. He's a great person and a lot of people want to see him succeed. He has made very few, if any, enemies in the business. A lot of media people look for any crack to rip into a coach that they don't like. You don't see that with Martin because he is well liked. So yes, I'm sure it's hard for some of them to criticize him.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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Those teams played like ****...that's what happened. You gotta quit defending the guy BTO!!! If any of those games were close, a Cuonzo coached team would of played themselves out of the game...What is he, 2-9 when games are 9 points or closer...I could be wrong...
 
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What gets me is that look of a dear in headlights look he has after a game. On the few occasions he says anything meaningful he has alluded to how great the other team played and made some far out reference to our guys not getting open. It is maddening. Never, not once has he shown any emotion in reacting to a loss. I am sorry, but he has to go. We have seen what good coaching can do for a team and unfortunately we have seen more than once how bad coaching looks. I am tired of the excuse we weren't suppose to win so why get mad? Well I am mad because I believe our expectations aren't being met. Seems I recall everyone's excitement about this season before it began listing our talent and experience as the reason. Have we gotten less talented or experienced?
 
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vol66 said:
I actually caught the Tony Jones analysis of the UF game on the radio yesterday. He brought up a lot of good points, similar to others and his best point, I thought, was the last minute and a half of the game. I have no problem with any of that, but then he said this:

"I don't get it, ya know, being a former coach and a coach that has had some success and a coach that coached at the University of Tennessee, a guy that loves that university, 2 daughters graduated from that place and I call this place home.

It's troubling to see the Volunteer faithful be disappointed. I want the fans to be happy."


Really Coach Jones? You are troubled because the fan base is disappointed and unhappy? Really?

I'm sorry...that's rich.

He goes on to say, that he loves Jordan McRae and that he recruited him, Maymon and Stokes then he says, "I want these guys to have success and it's just not happening and I don't know why. ..um...it's very disappointing Tony, very disappointing.


Really Coach, really? You love them, you want them to have success? Really.

What were you thinking 3 years ago coach, about the faithful fans, about the players having success? Seems like to this faithful fan you were more concerned about saving your own hide, with no concern for the fans or the players.

That's not basketball analysis, I don't know what it is, but it's not basketball analysis.
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What does screwing up have to do with caring about the players he coached?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
Honest question....what happens in the @lsu, @bama, Xavier, Virginia games? Were we just lucky and fell into big wins? Do they have worse coaches than Zo? Did someone else coach those games?

This is a honest question and not meant in any way to defend Zo, I'm asking because I see the struggles and understand, but what's happening in those wins?
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The same way Wade Houston beat LSU with Shaq and Kentucky.
 
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