Clawfense crushes previously unbeaten N Illinois

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Fightmaker said:
I think you are spot on. Clawson runs a very atypical college offense that Fulmer wasn't fully sold on. Georgia State or whoever it was that beat Florida ran a similar version of it. It's very effective against normal defenses who are young and/or undersized. The service academies run versions of the spread because of personnel, but Clawson's was a step above that. I don't think Fulmer would have ever fully took the gloves off, and to be fair, I don't think it would have had a sustaining effect against SEC defenses. But it would have been an interesting couple of years if we had been staffed for it.
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Ga Southern runs the flexbone triple option aka Paul Johnson at Ga Tech. The Clawfence is pass happy type offense. Total opposites.
 
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Fightmaker said:
I think you are spot on. Clawson runs a very atypical college offense that Fulmer wasn't fully sold on. Georgia State or whoever it was that beat Florida ran a similar version of it. It's very effective against normal defenses who are young and/or undersized. The service academies run versions of the spread because of personnel, but Clawson's was a step above that. I don't think Fulmer would have ever fully took the gloves off, and to be fair, I don't think it would have had a sustaining effect against SEC defenses. But it would have been an interesting couple of years if we had been staffed for it.
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All of the schools you mentioned run the flexbone/triple option offense. Not the spread.
 
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Never satisfied. We want to get rid of phill.get rid of kiffin get rid of dools
Get rid of Butch .will we stop and smell the flowers.Heres the chance support Butch.
 
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volsfan125 said:
Ga Southern runs the flexbone triple option aka Paul Johnson at Ga Tech. The Clawfence is pass happy type offense. Total opposites.
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The Clawfence is a highly customized version of the West Coast offense , One of the problems with it in its initial installment is pro level of complexity ..with receiver reads and route options and the QB reading the same thing as the receiver and multiple checks. Phil was on the hotseat and kept tinkering and keeping CDC tied to his tried an true offense.

Not speculating or passing blame as to who was right or wrong ...but I think you hire a coordinator to bring their stuff to the table.
 
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So Clawson had a big win, so what. His offense got Fulmer fired. Chavis' defense stopped the other team time after time and Clawson's offense could barely make a first down. I don't care what he's doing now, when he was with the big orange he stunk it up.
 
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memvol said:
BGSU was 2-10 only three years ago. Clawson has turned them into MAC champions. This guy truly did and does know football. I will admit that I was very disappointed with his one and only year at UT. His success at not only BGSU but also at Richmond leads me to believe he was not given full control of the UT offense. They blistered N Illinois with very average offensive talent.
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I am from Richmond and Clawson truly built that program. Recruited guys to an FCS school that are now in the NFL. Sad to see that Mike London won the championship with all of his players
 
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What everyone seems to be forgetting is that when Fulmer hired Clawson, he would not let Clawson bring in his position coaches who knew the offense. So not only was Clawson teaching a new system to the players, he was also teaching it to the position coaches who then had to try and turn around and teach it to their position players...everyone but Clawson was confused and lost and people wonder why it didn't work...
 
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David Cutcliffe is the only OC Fulmer actually trusted, IMO.

Clawson wasn't given leeway to run his offense on his terms. Fulmer was too much of a "hand in the cookie jar" sort. We've all had managers/superiors like that, I'm sure.

Clawson is obviously a highly capable coach. Why did he fail at UT? I'm sure that reason is why Clawson was quickly hired after Fulmer was fired and Fulmer, well, he collected his severance package.

The truth will out, and it did.
 
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majic73 said:
The Clawfence is a highly customized version of the West Coast offense , One of the problems with it in its initial installment is pro level of complexity ..with receiver reads and route options and the QB reading the same thing as the receiver and multiple checks. Phil was on the hotseat and kept tinkering and keeping CDC tied to his tried an true offense.

Not speculating or passing blame as to who was right or wrong ...but I think you hire a coordinator to bring their stuff to the table.
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So IYO UF is screwed next season also :) (agree)
 
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Fulmer wanted Clawson to run a spread with Two tight ends and a fullback. If Fulmer had of let Clawson do his thing, they would both still be here.
 
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DC Vol said:
David Cutcliffe is the only OC Fulmer actually trusted, IMO.

Clawson wasn't given leeway to run his offense on his terms. Fulmer was too much of a "hand in the cookie jar" sort. We've all had managers/supervisors like that, I'm sure.

Clawson is obviously a highly capable coach. Why did he fail at UT? I'm sure that reason is why Clawson was quickly hired after Fulmer was fired and Fulmer, well, he collected his severance package.

The truth will out, and it did.
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You mean this guy was the problem?

phillip fulmer 98 - Google Search

The guy had the highest win percentage of any coach in the country. With that logic, you're saying paterno shouldve been fired if he had a couple bad years.

I was in high school when we fired him and knew it was stupid to fire a guy with a record of 152-52 and the year after we went to the SECCG. The "talent issue" everyone complains about now wouldn't be near what it is now with Fulmer. You know that Tajh Boyd guy everyone talks about on here? Fulmer had him committed. Fulmer could get pretty much anybody he wanted. 14 good years and 2 bad years doesn't mean he fell off.


Besides, based on the last 5 years what do have to say he shouldve been fired?

He went 5-6 in 05. He went 10-3 the next year.

Whos to say 09 wouldn't have been like 06?
 
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And this is where the thread gets merged.

On the original topic, big win for Coach Clawson.
 
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Time to face some straight truths, Volnation:

If Fulmer isn't fired mid-season, we win out and go to a bowl (a mediocre year, but all we can target now). Crompdaddy finally gets some continuity with an OC (or during the Bowl practices, BJ Coleman wins out). The team get the extra practices to learn the Clawfense.

In 2009, Crompdaddy (a 5th year senior) has now had continuity and the game slows down for him immediately. He's not deer-in-the-headlights for the first five games under Layla's husband's regime. We probably win the East, might even beat Bama. Would definitely have beaten Florida. Tajh Boyd or Bryce Petty is our new QB over coming years.

Fulmer probably retires by 2012-13 (I forget when he was expected to eclipse the General). We would have been in Atlanta many times - the East has never been weaker. The Florida streak is probably in our favor by several games. Butch or Gruden arrive with a team suited for the power spread style and with a legacy class that Fulmer has groomed for transition.

Thank Mike Hambone Hamilton for the above NOT happening.
 
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Eddie Vol Halen said:
Time to face some straight truths, Volnation:

If Fulmer isn't fired mid-season, we win out and go to a bowl (a mediocre year, but all we can target now). Crompdaddy finally gets some continuity with an OC (or during the Bowl practices, BJ Coleman wins out). The team get the extra practices to learn the Clawfense.

In 2009, Crompdaddy (a 5th year senior) has now had continuity and the game slows down for him immediately. He's not deer-in-the-headlights for the first five games under Layla's husband's regime. We probably win the East, might even beat Bama. Would definitely have beaten Florida. Tajh Boyd or Bryce Petty is our new QB over coming years.

Fulmer probably retires by 2012-13 (I forget when he was expected to eclipse the General). We would have been in Atlanta many times - the East has never been weaker. The Florida streak is probably in our favor by several games. Butch or Gruden arrive with a team suited for the power spread style and with a legacy class that Fulmer has groomed for transition.

Thank Mike Hambone Hamilton for the above NOT happening.
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good grief, this was stupid.
 
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memvol said:
BGSU was 2-10 only three years ago. Clawson has turned them into MAC champions. This guy truly did and does know football. I will admit that I was very disappointed with his one and only year at UT. His success at not only BGSU but also at Richmond leads me to believe he was not given full control of the UT offense. They blistered N Illinois with very average offensive talent.
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Even though Clawson took the heat for it. Let's be real here. Everything went through Fulmer. A OC can only do what the head coach let's him do.
 
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GAVol said:
I'll never forget an open mic catching Josh McNeil in a sideline o-line meeting saying, "My God. It's just not that hard."
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Was He the one that was rumored to have two co-eds in his dorm room the night before a game? If so then his sideline remarks may have had nothing to do with the game. :thumbsup:
 
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utvolkyle06 said:
Was He the one that was rumored to have two co-eds in his dorm room the night before a game? If so then his sideline remarks may have had nothing to do with the game. :thumbsup:
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Early nominee for top 10 post :)
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