Climate Change Report

[volfanjustin]

Yes lets collapse the American economy over 0.00001 of a degree every 100 years

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Yes lets collapse the American economy over 0.00001 of a degree every 100 years

Still cannot be bothered to read, I see.

The concept of global warming was created by and for the Chinese in order to make U.S. manufacturing non-competitive.

 

[VolStrom]

Question for people on here, do wood fires help or add to climate change?

 

[AirVol]

We (US) can not police the world environment alone. These other industrialized countries need to “clean” their act up.

 

[LouderVol]

Question for people on here, do wood fires help or add to climate change?

as of right now, it hurts. if we were gaining forest it would be neutral at worse.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

We (US) can not police the world environment alone. These other industrialized countries need to “clean” their act up.

No, but instead of leading the charge. We have numb nuts in the white house denying climate change.

 

[LouderVol]

No, but instead of leading the charge. We have numb nuts in the white house denying climate change.

but even still we are leading the charge. no one cares.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

but even still we are leading the charge. no one cares.

I think that is bs.

 

[LouderVol]

unlike China we are getting better. China Emits More Carbon Dioxide Than The U.S. and EU Combined



see this is why I can't take people complaining about it seriously. they say we aren't doing enough, but we are leading in the efforts to decrease this stuff.

bump for cwv

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I think that is bs.

You think the Chinese give a rat's ass?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

bump for cwv

We aren't leading any efforts. It is going to take some work to create a real agreement with a real mechanism to measure success and real penalty for failing to meet those goals.

 

[Grand Vol]

We aren't leading any efforts. It is going to take some work to create a real agreement with a real mechanism to measure success and real penalty for failing to meet those goals.

Who gets the windfall from those "penalties" and what's it used for?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Who gets the windfall from those "penalties" and what's it used for?

My penalties would be trade related. All signatory nations agree not to do any trade with any nation that is not meeting goals.

 

[Grand Vol]

My penalties would be trade related. All signatory nations agree not to do any trade with any nation that is not meeting goals.

And internally?

Furthermore, do you honestly think that would work?

 

[ClearwaterVol]

And internally?

Furthermore, do you honestly think that would work?

I think it could work, but it would have to be crafted very differently from the Paris Agreement.

 

[NorthDallas40]

My penalties would be trade related. All signatory nations agree not to do any trade with any nation that is not meeting goals.

Smells an awful lot like an evil tariff. I thought you guys didn’t want gov picking winners and losers?

How about we take care of our business and let everybody else take care of theirs. Even by withdrawing from the damn Paris Accords we’re still leaps and bounds above the rest. And remember nobody in the Paris Accords has met their emissions goals?

 

[AM64]

I don't question that the climate is changing. However, the actual human impact on climate change has not and probably never will be proven. This whole idea that because the atmosphere is warming it must be human's fault violates one of the basic principles of arguments you learn in English 1: Correlation is not causation. There is data to suggest that the warming taking place is cyclical in nature. Furthermore, we are technically in an ice age right now so the idea that the atmosphere warming is something unexpected and worrisome is absurd. Maybe the warming is just a transition out of the ice age we're in?

If leftists and idiots in Congress really wanted to cut down on Carbon emissions they would be all for nuclear energy. That stuff coming out of those towers looks scary and toxic, but in reality it's just water vapor. I suppose the word "nuclear" scares people when in reality it's one of the safest, most reliable, and practical methods of energy production out there.

The idiots arguing for solar panels don't realize that the factory that produces those solar panels is generating far more CO2 than a nuclear or hydro power plant would. The idiots arguing for wind energy don't realize that wind turbines have drastically negative impacts on bird wildlife populations. Reliability of both of these energy methods is non-existent, therefore rendering both as non-practical solutions to CO2 emissions.

The ironic part is that the left is all about change ... as long as they dictate the change.

 

[TN Ribs]

No, but instead of leading the charge. We have numb nuts in the white house denying climate change.

Not only does he deny it, he chooses to contradict the conclusions of the 13 agencies in his Administration confirming that Climate Change is real and has dire consequences. So we get a moronic tweet from Trump about how cold it is over Thanksgiving because, you know, anecdotal temperature drops apparently supersede all scientific data.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Smells an awful lot like an evil tariff. I thought you guys didn’t want gov picking winners and losers?

How about we take care of our business and let everybody else take care of theirs. Even by withdrawing from the damn Paris Accords we’re still leaps and bounds above the rest. And remember nobody in the Paris Accords has met their emissions goals?

Because that is ineffective. We have long since passed a point where that might work.

 

[AM64]

We aren't leading any efforts. It is going to take some work to create a real agreement with a real mechanism to measure success and real penalty for failing to meet those goals.

You do realize the problem is population? Every person is a heat and waste emitter. Every person requires more animal and plant matter to exist. Every person requires manufacturing, processing, and energy production to live. If you've ever studied thermodynamics then you know every process requires/generates heat and that there are always losses associated with energy transformation ... more people to feed, clothe, etc simply means more heat and pollution. Have you ever heard limiting population growth even peripherally discussed as an answer to the "problem"? The closest thing you'll ever hear to population control is civilizations wanting to reject baby girls and religions that feel it their divine duty to pump out more kids.

If anyone actually believes that "global warming" is man made, then where are the charts plotting all the imponderables and "measurables" vs human population? The answer is that nobody wants to go there. So if you are unwilling to even consider the real problem, then ...

 

[PointGuard]

It’s not us as a planet either. Think about these things as well
The winds of Venus have increased by an estimated 33% and its spin rate is decreasing

Mars has warmed faster than the earth has during the same time period the global warming crowd has been saying we are doomed unless we send them money and stop using petroleum based fuels..

Jupiter: Is emitting strange radio frequencies and the great red spot is fading away while a new red spot is forming at a different latitude.

Saturn every thirty years has a super storm in its northern hemisphere. The storm has shown up just like clock work due to Saturn's orbit...But...this year it has appeared 10 years early..

Uranus is also acting unusual as the brightest storm ever observed has made itself available for out viewing pleasure..

Taxes and carbon credits won’t stop the sun doing what it does.

So many posters so brilliant on so many subjects. Impressive

 

[NorthDallas40]

Because that is ineffective. We have long since passed a point where that might work.

Then why are we the ones out front in emissions reductions. Careful CWV. You’re starting to sound like a statist

 

[DancingOutlaw]

Not only does he deny it, he chooses to contradict the conclusions of the 13 agencies in his Administration confirming that Climate Change is real and has dire consequences. So we get a moronic tweet from Trump about how cold it is over Thanksgiving because, you know, anecdotal temperature drops apparently supersede all scientific data.

Sort of like 3 years of wildfires in one state in one country over 7 billion years proves the climate is headed towards disaster.

 

[titansvolsfaninga]

I don't care. I will be long dead by the end of the century.

Besides, you are whining to and about the wrong country. The USA is NOT the problem.

So you dont care about your kids, or kids kids....cool, just put a bullet in their head now.

 

[AM64]

So you dont care about your kids, or kids kids....cool, just put a bullet in their head now.

Why does everyone conclude that we have the ability to change the global environment, but we as intelligent human beings are unable to adapt to change?