Coach Kellie Harper

[Volfan2012]

LSU was awful, again it came down to coaching for me. What was that game plan?

I feel like they kept telling Powell to push pace but LSU was getting back. You can’t push pace into a set defense and jack up bad shots.

Game was kind of a fluke as HVL had her best game of the season. I don't think anyone could beat them when she plays like that and hits that percentage plus 8 in a row. Came no where close to that in any of the SEC Tourney games.

 

[brittannica]

LSU was awful, again it came down to coaching for me. What was that game plan?

I feel like they kept telling Powell to push pace but LSU was getting back. You can’t push pace into a set defense and jack up bad shots.

They shut down the paint very effectively. HVL just went off which few would have projected given her performance earlier this season.

 

[VolBall09]

Game was kind of a fluke as HVL had her best game of the season. I don't think anyone could beat them when she plays like that and hits that percentage plus 8 in a row. Came no where close to that in any of the SEC Tourney games.

She always plays well against us. Did so when they (Louisville) knocked us out of the tournament. You’d think Kellie wouldn’t have forgotten that.

We are always trying to play selective defense and not guard people and it burns us frequently. In the SEC there just aren’t many players you can leave unguarded. Maybe a couple from Kentucky and one or two from UGA this season. Otherwise you had better be ready to defend.

 

[Coach Jumper]

That’s the fools gold argument Kelli used in a recent post game presser - “look at how far we’ve come!” And I agree with her, and you, btw. They’ve come a long way from a month and half ago. The problem comes when we become complacent because she made progress recently, when we have to look at it more holistically. This isn’t a first year coach who struggled with someone else’s roster. She’s in year five and spent half the season “off the bubble and not even in consideration for a tournament berth.” We cannot be fooled into believing where are at is “good” when the larger picture shows a much different story.

Just remember, in BB,,it is a finisher's game
You have to be playing your best basketball ,,, right now!
And they arguably,,,are playing their best BB right now,,,so lets go NCAA's,,,no matter who we got, we should demolish them

 

[Lucy]

This thread is a disgrace and at the end of the day a disservice to the Lady Vols.
A lifeline to malcontents, fly by football posters and trolls.
The same dim bulbs who voted to not retain Kellie will be the first ones b****ing when we miss out on a recruit ignoring the fact that crap like this is fuel for those recruiting against us. Just brilliant.

 

[VolBall09]

This thread is a disgrace and at the end of the day a disservice to the Lady Vols.
A lifeline to malcontents, fly by football posters and trolls.
The same dim bulbs who voted to not retain Kellie will be the first ones b****ing when we miss out on a recruit ignoring the fact that crap like this is fuel for those recruiting against us. Just brilliant.

Crap like that last play the other night is why we wiff on recruits. This message board looked like this when Holly was landing the #1 recruiting class.

 

[Volfan2012]

We'll get the answer soon. Not going to go to long after the NCAA until the answer will be given.

 

[Dadof2Vols]

This thread is a disgrace and at the end of the day a disservice to the Lady Vols.
A lifeline to malcontents, fly by football posters and trolls.
The same dim bulbs who voted to not retain Kellie will be the first ones b****ing when we miss out on a recruit ignoring the fact that crap like this is fuel for those recruiting against us. Just brilliant.

Don’t jump on me. I can make arguments for keep or fire. You are obviously 100% keep and don’t consider any alternative thoughts.

So with this being a discussion board, what would a non successful season where you would say after 5 years it is time for her to go look like?

Really curious how those who are 100% keep with no consideration or even discussion and believe the product and direction are correct and heading in right direction…just what an unsuccessful season and reason to let go would look like?

 

[knoxvol52]

And the beat goes on and on and on........................,.....................................................................

 

[ttharp]

This thread is a disgrace and at the end of the day a disservice to the Lady Vols.
A lifeline to malcontents, fly by football posters and trolls.
The same dim bulbs who voted to not retain Kellie will be the first ones b****ing when we miss out on a recruit ignoring the fact that crap like this is fuel for those recruiting against us. Just brilliant.

Most of the people chipping in on this thread are regular posters here.

When your record vs. top 25 teams over the last two seasons is 2-17, you deserve to be critiqued.

The Kellie Harper discussion/debate thread has been up almost 3 years now, and much of what’s being said in this one is very similar- if not the same. That hasn’t stopped us from being finalists for multiple 5* recruits.

Y’all have been telling us lack of NIL funds is the PRIMARY reason the staff can’t close the deal with recruits. So if that’s true, this thread shouldn’t be as big a deal as you’re making it out to be.

 

[Volfan2012]

I think it is fair to get both sides of the story. Not like this site has any relevance to any decision of any player. Twitter is a lot more blown up than this thread could ever be and that is where any players etc would see the posts of most of the Vol fans. Same on facebook both serve a lot more people than this site and this site is fairly tame as to what is said on those sites.

 

[knoxvol52]

I think it is fair to get both sides of the story. Not like this site has any relevance to any decision of any player. Twitter is a lot more blown up than this thread could ever be and that is where any players etc would see the posts of most of the Vol fans. Same on facebook both serve a lot more people than this site and this site is fairly tame as to what is said on those sites.

I don't know I was informed by a poster on here that recruits read this site.

Why I couldn't tell you, why would a 17 or 18 year old give a rats @$$ what older middle aged individuals think or say that's not their potential coach at a school.

 

[Volfan2012]

I don't know I was informed by a poster on here that recruits read this site.

Why I couldn't tell you, why would a 17 or 18 year old give a rats @$$ what older middle aged individuals think or say..

If they do then they know that there are a lot of Lady Vol fans that don't support Kellie Harper. They didn't need to read this one thread not to know that as almost every thread has some of it. There is a logical reason to be on either side of the question. The first five seasons and what has happened with recruiting and overall program is it enough? Then 44 percent who are quite willing to give it another season. I am sure a lot like me based on what the roster looks like going into that season. I wouldn't say I would be in the 44 percent if we have a similar season next year. If winning big is no longer important and that is the way the majority feels including AD I can go for other UT sports if this one continues to flounder.

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

This thread is a disgrace and at the end of the day a disservice to the Lady Vols.
A lifeline to malcontents, fly by football posters and trolls.
The same dim bulbs who voted to not retain Kellie will be the first ones b****ing when we miss out on a recruit ignoring the fact that crap like this is fuel for those recruiting against us. Just brilliant.

That’s one heck of a reach to suggest what people post on this forum is going to be detrimental to our recruiting, especially considering that recruiting already isn’t where it needs to be and hasn’t been for the entirety of CKH’s tenure. NIL (depending on who you talk to) and average on court results are all the weapons other schools need to recruit against us.

 

[Deebowbear]

Don’t jump on me. I can make arguments for keep or fire. You are obviously 100% keep and don’t consider any alternative thoughts.

So with this being a discussion board, what would a non successful season where you would say after 5 years it is time for her to go look like?

Really curious how those who are 100% keep with no consideration or even discussion and believe the product and direction are correct and heading in right direction…just what an unsuccessful season and reason to let go would look like?

Most that are for keeping Kellie thinks nobody can coach here but former players that’s not worked out so good so far

 

[Dadof2Vols]

That’s one heck of a reach to suggest what people post on this forum is going to be detrimental to our recruiting, especially considering that recruiting already isn’t where it needs to be and hasn’t been for the entirety of CKH’s tenure. NIL (depending on who you talk to) and average on court results are all the weapons other schools need to recruit against us.

Just for discussion, NIL has negatively affected how many of those 5 recruiting classes?

 

[VolsAgainstTheWorld15]

Just for discussion, NIL has negatively affected how many of those 5 recruiting classes?

It has had some impact on recruiting since NIL went into effect, but it isn’t the sole reason that recruiting isn’t where it needs to be like some would have you believe. That’s why I say “depending on who you talk to”. It’s the popular excuse right now because it’s not necessarily wrong, but it doesn’t make up for the fact that CKH wasn’t recruiting at a championship level even before NIL.

 

[Tnphil]

Most that are for keeping Kellie thinks nobody can coach here but former players that’s not worked out so good so far

There are several lovers of the coach more than lovers of the program here. The coaches get paid big money to win....recruit....and not be 12-35 against ranked teams over 5 years at a place like the University of Tennessee....It's not hard to figure out who the lovers of the coach are.

 

[Rons1989]

There are several lovers of the coach more than lovers of the program here. The coaches get paid big money to win....recruit....and not be 12-35 against ranked teams over 5 years at a place like the University of Tennessee....It's not hard to figure out who the lovers of the coach are.

You preaching with this one....been over this hire some time ago

 

[Dadof2Vols]

It has had some impact on recruiting since NIL went into effect, but it isn’t the sole reason that recruiting isn’t where it needs to be like some would have you believe. That’s why I say “depending on who you talk to”. It’s the popular excuse right now because it’s not necessarily wrong, but it doesn’t make up for the fact that CKH wasn’t recruiting at a championship level even before NIL.

So 2 out of 5? 23 & 24? I think those are the only ones where NIL was “Legal”.

I don’t follow recruiting religiously like others. Just wonder how those first 3 recruiting classes pre NIL ranked?

Asking for discussion purposes….

 

[Lucy]

Crap like that last play the other night is why we wiff on recruits. This message board looked like this when Holly was landing the #1 recruiting class.

There is no defense for this thread. You know this sort of junk results will be used against Kellie in recruiting. Thanks for your support of our program.

 

[VolBall09]

There is no defense for this thread. You know this sort of junk results will be used against Kellie in recruiting. Thanks for your support of our program.

It can be, but so can many other factors. This forum is one small factor in a very large recruiting picture.

The forum also pre-dates the poor recruiting we have seen the last 5 seasons.

This place was way worse during some of the Holly years and she was still signing quality talent. Even Kellie’s best class was Holly’s last.

 

[Volstylexx]

Good back down....

I’m not sure what you mean by that. If you’re trying to be nasty or what, but if you listen to the podcast that was the context of the statement- “she’s not competitive” when you look at the state of the program and what it’s producing nationally. That’s not a swipe at her, just an honest fact about the state of the program.

 

[Volstylexx]

There is no defense for this thread. You know this sort of junk results will be used against Kellie in recruiting. Thanks for your support of our program.

Lucy, you have kept repeating that comment for months. If a Volnation thread is what keeps a recruit from signing at TN, and not the fact that we haven’t sniffed a Final 4 in 15 years, then welp… so be it. Success breeds success. If other teams are using Kelli’s hot seat against her in recruiting, I think that speaks more to the state of the program than a few fans. The writing is on the wall. I’m sure other SEC coaches can read it just as well as we have.

 

[MicCheck12]

Regardless of the tradition here, why would a 17-18 year-old want to come play here with fans who scrutinize a players every decision on the court when they themselves don't have a D-I bone in their body, yet feel the need to critique ACTUAL D-I athletes? We can't make this stuff up. If you actually LISTEN to the athletes who do decide to come here, one of the reasons is the fans. So to think that this site has no bearing on the recruiting results is fools gold. Stop being a part of the problem and learn to follow that old saying of if you don't have anything nice to say don't say anything at all! I hope the ones on here being so negative, has a boss that is just as critical for the rest of their working career/life. Let's see how you like it.