Coach Kellie Harper

Do you want Coach Harper to return or hire new Coach?


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Im still on board Kellie ship Mudcat not even got his lifejacket Handy @chuckiepoo q
 
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He said coach, not control. That would go to commitment to the program and team. In turn to vetting.
Edit: not sure I see AR being a fit. Of course AR’s path and persona, her “status”, has shifted tremendously over the past two years. I think Kellie and staff would have been a much better influence on AR.
So culture
 
In our worlds some of us are the boss. And that may be why we have a problem with the leadership we see from Kellie.

I own and run a very successful healthcare business. I have 9 staff and have had 0 turnover the last 6 years. You would love to work for me. We deliver excellent care and our patients love us. We can see that success in a number of ways including positive feedback, increased revenue and job satisfaction with our employees.

BUT….BUT.

There are expectations and I expect employees to meet them or exceed them. Kellie is in charge of setting the bar and it appears the bar she sets is around 10-11 losses with lots of learning.
I didn't know you signed checks for UT staff. 🙄
 
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Any coach that can’t sign a high school player should be fired, and I hear there are feeler out already. Let’s hope that’s true.
 
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All of you posters that are suddenly concerned about 'Pat's Legacy' need to read this article and put your money where your mouth is...

 
All of you posters that are suddenly concerned about 'Pat's Legacy' need to read this article and put your money where your mouth is...

Then those who donate should in effect be the decision makers for the program. Is that what you are saying?
 
All of you posters that are suddenly concerned about 'Pat's Legacy' need to read this article and put your money where your mouth is...


Not putting another cent into the program until we have a different coach.

So tired of hearing about “negative recruiting” maybe it’s just people speaking the truth.

Glad we have landed some nice transfers but the failure to recruit from HS rests on the coach’s shoulders. Negative recruiting is just an excuse…and we all know how Pat felt about excuses.
 
...never said no such thing. The UTAD will always be the decision maker, internet trolls/posters will never be, but if you truly want to get recruiting where it needs to be, the Lady Vol Basketball program needs more NIL money to compete for the top recruits.

Then those who donate should in effect be the decision makers for the program. Is that what you are saying?
 
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No HS recruiting, then who's this? Kaniya Boyd - Women's Basketball - University of Tennessee Athletics

Might want to check the quality of HS recruits they have committed for the future.

Feel free to keep your money to prove your agenda. Kellie's not going anywhere, so you can give that up.

Not putting another cent into the program until we have a different coach.

So tired of hearing about “negative recruiting” maybe it’s just people speaking the truth.

Glad we have landed some nice transfers but the failure to recruit from HS rests on the coach’s shoulders. Negative recruiting is just an excuse…and we all know how Pat felt about excuses.
 
Then those who donate should in effect be the decision makers for the program. Is that what you are saying?
Yes. Not that they should be, but they are. Not necessarily primary decision makers but always considered in any organization's decision process. Money talks to the AD, strongly worded social media posts do not.
 
Not putting another cent into the program until we have a different coach.

So tired of hearing about “negative recruiting” maybe it’s just people speaking the truth.

Glad we have landed some nice transfers but the failure to recruit from HS rests on the coach’s shoulders. Negative recruiting is just an excuse…and we all know how Pat felt about excuses.

That’s what the crowd that shouts ‘NIL! NIL! I don’t think grasps. It’s not entirely wrong that NIL money is needed, but the reality is that most people aren’t going to throw hard earned money towards a program they don’t believe in. Fair or not, if people don’t believe in the current leadership, they aren’t going to throw money into the pot. That just isn’t reality.
 
Then those who donate should in effect be the decision makers for the program. Is that what you are saying?

Works that way with most programs. $$$ talks. Think the Haslam’s are a good example. They ran football coaching searches for years because of their donations. It may not be right, but in a world that revolves around money, that’s the way it is.
 
That’s what the crowd that shouts ‘NIL! NIL! I don’t think grasps. It’s not entirely wrong that NIL money is needed, but the reality is that most people aren’t going to throw hard earned money towards a program they don’t believe in. Fair or not, if people don’t believe in the current leadership, they aren’t going to throw money into the pot. That just isn’t reality.
Bingo. This is exactly what I was angling towards. Why would I give money if my opinion doesn't count...as EarlVol clearly stated. So even all of the "put your money where your mouth is" doesn't change anything, because it's not like by doing so then you ave a say in the direction of the program.

The fact that Tennessee....not UConn, not SC, not LSU, not Texas, not UCLA, not Louisville, not Vandy, not Notre Dame, not ANY major school I can think of...resorts to begging fans for money to pay for athletes is actually pretty off-putting. If the administration isn't supporting the school and if NIL is really the cause of the recruiting downturn (that existed well before NIL was even a rule), then they might as well shutter the LV basketball program because it isn't sustainable.
 
Why would I give money if my opinion doesn't count...
Soon as you start giving, you'll start counting. Unfortunately, it never works the other way around.
because it's not like by doing so then you ave a say in the direction of the program.
It's exactly like that, and the more you give the more of a say you'll have.
If the administration isn't supporting the school and if NIL is really the cause of the recruiting downturn (that existed well before NIL was even a rule), then they might as well shutter the LV basketball program because it isn't sustainable.
Not sure exactly what this means, but as of now the administration and school can't directly support NIL. That's the problem. Not doing well developing outside funds.
 
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That’s what the crowd that shouts ‘NIL! NIL! I don’t think grasps. It’s not entirely wrong that NIL money is needed, but the reality is that most people aren’t going to throw hard earned money towards a program they don’t believe in. Fair or not, if people don’t believe in the current leadership, they aren’t going to throw money into the pot. That just isn’t reality.
I hate myself when I agree with you, @BisonVol 🤣
 
Soon as you start giving, you'll start counting. Unfortunately, it never works the other way around.

It's exactly like that, and the more you give the more of a say you'll have.

Not sure exactly what this means, but as of now the administration and school can't directly support NIL. That's the problem. Not doing well developing outside funds.
Except that EarlVol, who is close to the program, contradicted that by saying that he didn't agree that donating gives you a say in how the program is managed. So it's not even about having a history of donating; it's that they want the money, but not your opinion.

Last statement I made is basically saying that it sounds like that the administration cannot keep Tennessee competitive with recruitment for reasons that seem to be unique to the Lady Vols and no other major programs. If that's the case, then UT might as well shut the program down.

I clearly don't buy this NIL excuse that seems to only affect Tennessee, so I'm following the script here assuming that is the culprit.
 
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Except that EarlVol, who is close to the program, contradicted that by saying that he didn't agree that donating gives you a say in how the program is managed. So it's not even about having a history of donating; it's that they want the money, but not your opinion.

Last statement I made is basically saying that it sounds like that the administration cannot keep Tennessee competitive with recruitment for reasons that seem to be unique to the Lady Vols and no other major programs. If that's the case, then UT might as well shut the program down.

I clearly don't buy this NIL excuse that seems to only affect Tennessee, so I'm following the script here assuming that is the culprit.
This just triggered a thought. The NCAA has been up in our grill since Kellie was first hired. Could overkill on staying clean and avoiding fringe recruiting violations be part of the issue?

Spit ballin’ here…
 
Don’t know if we could get her because I think UConn will hire her to replace Geno. But, imo, this is one of the best coaches in the game at the moment.


81% career win percentage and 86% Ivy League win percentage.

I hate, HATE, UConn, but I love winning. And so does Carla apparently lol.


Love her comments here as well.


And I’m just talking crazy, so don’t get too excited.
 
All of the other schools don't have separate NIL collectives like Tennessee. The Lady Vol Boost her Club does a lot of good things, especially for the other women's sports programs, but the major donors to the Volunteer Club are mostly not currently part of the women's NIL collective, therefore the sport that needs the big bucks, Women's Basketball, is crippled when it comes to recruiting top recruits.
Bingo. This is exactly what I was angling towards. Why would I give money if my opinion doesn't count...as EarlVol clearly stated. So even all of the "put your money where your mouth is" doesn't change anything, because it's not like by doing so then you ave a say in the direction of the program.

The fact that Tennessee....not UConn, not SC, not LSU, not Texas, not UCLA, not Louisville, not Vandy, not Notre Dame, not ANY major school I can think of...resorts to begging fans for money to pay for athletes is actually pretty off-putting. If the administration isn't supporting the school and if NIL is really the cause of the recruiting downturn (that existed well before NIL was even a rule), then they might as well shutter the LV basketball program because it isn't sustainable.

Except that EarlVol, who is close to the program, contradicted that by saying that he didn't agree that donating gives you a say in how the program is managed. So it's not even about having a history of donating; it's that they want the money, but not your opinion.

Last statement I made is basically saying that it sounds like that the administration cannot keep Tennessee competitive with recruitment for reasons that seem to be unique to the Lady Vols and no other major programs. If that's the case, then UT might as well shut the program down.

I clearly don't buy this NIL excuse that seems to only affect Tennessee, so I'm following the script here assuming that is the culprit.
 
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Angel got a national championship bc of Kim....but she will not have a long, amazing WNBA career. Her skill set is minimum and her attitude has gotten worse BECAUSE it has been encouraged by a trashy head coach. Not good for Angel but it doesn't hurt Kim one bit.
 
Except that EarlVol, who is close to the program, contradicted that by saying that he didn't agree that donating gives you a say in how the program is managed. So it's not even about having a history of donating; it's that they want the money, but not your opinion.

Last statement I made is basically saying that it sounds like that the administration cannot keep Tennessee competitive with recruitment for reasons that seem to be unique to the Lady Vols and no other major programs. If that's the case, then UT might as well shut the program down.

I clearly don't buy this NIL excuse that seems to only affect Tennessee, so I'm following the script here assuming that is the culprit.
How many women’s programs have gone solo like LVBHC?
 
So you donate $1000 dollars , you get a seat at the table.
You donate $3000 dollars , you get acknowledged your sitting at the table.
You donate $20000 dollars then your at head of the table.

Hypothetical speaking of course.
 
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