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I just watch the Press Conference and know talk is cheap but his vision of what we need is right on the money. I know time will tell but if you had put anybody that was on our wish list up there I'm not sure they could have come up with a better plan of what they want and what we need.
 
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rocytop2624 said:
It's Business and he went home.
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Are you old enough to remember that this occurred on the night before spring semester started and Kiffin had Orgeron calling all of the early enrollee recruits and telling them not to go to class so they could transfer to USC. Or that Kiffin's one recruiting class ended up being the worse in Tennessee history, or that he got UT on probation as he left.
 
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Backwards K said:
Are you old enough to remember that this occurred on the night before spring semester started and Kiffin had Orgeron calling all of the early enrollee recruits and telling them not to go to class so they could transfer to USC. Or that Kiffin's one recruiting class ended up being the worse in Tennessee history, or that he got UT on probation as he left.
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Yes I am old enough and Kiffin has admitted to making mistakes. I believe that calling players is all on coach O. Just like we have players leaving now they do that when coach's leave. I also remember the excitement that he brought that we hadn't had since 98 or the end of Casey Clausen . I also remember people upset that he left because we didn't want him to leave not because we was glad like all the other coaches. I have still been able to get behind all the new coaches when hired but I can't no more and if we would have hired Kiffin it would have been alot of excitement back a big boost of excitement and that means money for Tennessee but they don't get it. Alabubba did and went and got there guy. Wish we would do the same.
 
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Randy Boyd has shown that he is willing to spend money to make money as evidenced by the contracts to Barnes and White.

A $24 million dollar contract to Heupel over six years is not being cheap.
 
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thistime said:
I just watch the Press Conference and know talk is cheap but his vision of what we need is right on the money. I know time will tell but if you had put anybody that was on our wish list up there I'm not sure they could have come up with a better plan of what they want and what we need.
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I felt the exact same way after Dooley's introductory press conference.
 
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Volfan1000 said:
Randy Boyd has shown that he is willing to spend money to make money as evidenced by the contracts to Barnes and White.

A $24 million dollar contract to Heupel over six years is not being cheap.
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To be serious about taking a program to conference championship status or more it is very cheap. The Administration and White did not walk the talk.
 
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So it looks like no one has been in this thread since last night, but I am going to post this here anyway. This is what I know as of today, people kind of opened up after our new head coach was hired. Our AD really did swing for the fences for the hire, CJH was always considered, however others were contacted to see what would shake out.
Franklin was totally in the mix, however he wanted a huge salary to make the move (I don’t blame him). When I say huge salary, it would have made him the highest paid coach in sports, college and pro. Others I heard were scared by the upcoming NCAA sanctions, which is totally fair. CJH was in it from the start.
Napier was never in the mix, not sure why. Dykes was never in the mix and was not contacted by anyone official from UT. I know this because I called the AD at SMU and asked him. I know him through other folks. He said to his knowledge Dykes was never offered the job. If you don’t know who the AD at SMU is, google him, his name is familiar. Elliot was considered, however he was talked out of taking the job. It’s a hard job moving from coordinator to head ball coach in the best situations, add everything UT was facing, it would have impacted his career in such a negative way if he didn’t succeed. He will get his opportunity in the next 2 years in a much better environment.
Now to Freeze, Chadwell and Kiffin. Freeze rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way, all over the SEC and ACC. His holier than thou attitude while doing the things he did, it did not make many friends. Chadwell basically burned a program to the ground on this way out. These 2 were never going to get a sniff due to the incoming NCAA sanctions. Its kind of hard to say “we know we messed up, but we have learned our lesson” and then hire one of these 2 guys.
Now on to Kiffin, who I thought would be great. I think he is a great offensive coach and also his players love him. He is also a huge smart ass, which I also love, we need another Spurrier type in the SEC, might as well be at UT. However Kiffin burnt so many bridges on his way out of Knoxville, it just wasn’t going to happen.
That being said, I did talk to 2 ADs who are in the ACC, they are friends of mine from being here in Atlanta (not hard to figure out who they are, my dad played ball at The Institute and most of my family went there). Both thought CJH was a great choice considering the circumstances and were actually surprised he took the job. That was all due to Danny White.
With that being said, this has been a great ride and it was great talking to all of you in the coachery thread (also the plane tracking thread was very amusing). All of you are awesome, even if we didn’t agree. Love the passion for UT.
On another note, I finished my treatment for a rare blood cancer today and so far everything looks good. If it is not caught in time or treatment doesn’t work, you have a 2 - 4 year life expectancy. That was found last year on a routine checkup and because of course it was 2020. Following this thread and chatting with all of you took my mind off of that as well as my grind at work with all the Covid patients we have been seeing. Needless to say to has been a depressing and trying time, but you guys and gals made it all better. For that I truly thank you.
Stay safe and peace,
Er Vol
 
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ER Vol said:
So it looks like no one has been in this thread since last night, but I am going to post this here anyway. This is what I know as of today, people kind of opened up after our new head coach was hired. Our AD really did swing for the fences for the hire, CJH was always considered, however others were contacted to see what would shake out.
Franklin was totally in the mix, however he wanted a huge salary to make the move (I don’t blame him). When I say huge salary, it would have made him the highest paid coach in sports, college and pro. Others I heard were scared by the upcoming NCAA sanctions, which is totally fair. CJH was in it from the start.
Napier was never in the mix, not sure why. Dykes was never in the mix and was not contacted by anyone official from UT. I know this because I called the AD at SMU and asked him. I know him through other folks. He said to his knowledge Dykes was never offered the job. If you don’t know who the AD at SMU is, google him, his name is familiar. Elliot was considered, however he was talked out of taking the job. It’s a hard job moving from coordinator to head ball coach in the best situations, add everything UT was facing, it would have impacted his career in such a negative way if he didn’t succeed. He will get his opportunity in the next 2 years in a much better environment.
Now to Freeze, Chadwell and Kiffin. Freeze rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way, all over the SEC and ACC. His holier than thou attitude while doing the things he did, it did not make many friends. Chadwell basically burned a program to the ground on this way out. These 2 were never going to get a sniff due to the incoming NCAA sanctions. Its kind of hard to say “we know we messed up, but we have learned our lesson” and then hire one of these 2 guys.
Now on to Kiffin, who I thought would be great. I think he is a great offensive coach and also his players love him. He is also a huge smart ass, which I also love, we need another Spurrier type in the SEC, might as well be at UT. However Kiffin burnt so many bridges on his way out of Knoxville, it just wasn’t going to happen.
That being said, I did talk to 2 ADs who are in the ACC, they are friends of mine from being here in Atlanta (not hard to figure out who they are, my dad played ball at The Institute and most of my family went there). Both thought CJH was a great choice considering the circumstances and were actually surprised he took the job. That was all due to Danny White.
With that being said, this has been a great ride and it was great talking to all of you in the coachery thread (also the plane tracking thread was very amusing). All of you are awesome, even if we didn’t agree. Love the passion for UT.
On another note, I finished my treatment for a rare blood cancer today and so far everything looks good. If it is not caught in time or treatment doesn’t work, you have a 2 - 4 year life expectancy. That was found last year on a routine checkup and because of course it was 2020. Following this thread and chatting with all of you took my mind off of that as well as my grind at work with all the Covid patients we have been seeing. Needless to say to has been a depressing and trying time, but you guys and gals made it all better. For that I truly thank you.
Stay safe and peace,
Er Vol
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Good luck with your health.
 
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ER Vol said:
So it looks like no one has been in this thread since last night, but I am going to post this here anyway. This is what I know as of today, people kind of opened up after our new head coach was hired. Our AD really did swing for the fences for the hire, CJH was always considered, however others were contacted to see what would shake out.
Franklin was totally in the mix, however he wanted a huge salary to make the move (I don’t blame him). When I say huge salary, it would have made him the highest paid coach in sports, college and pro. Others I heard were scared by the upcoming NCAA sanctions, which is totally fair. CJH was in it from the start.
Napier was never in the mix, not sure why. Dykes was never in the mix and was not contacted by anyone official from UT. I know this because I called the AD at SMU and asked him. I know him through other folks. He said to his knowledge Dykes was never offered the job. If you don’t know who the AD at SMU is, google him, his name is familiar. Elliot was considered, however he was talked out of taking the job. It’s a hard job moving from coordinator to head ball coach in the best situations, add everything UT was facing, it would have impacted his career in such a negative way if he didn’t succeed. He will get his opportunity in the next 2 years in a much better environment.
Now to Freeze, Chadwell and Kiffin. Freeze rubbed a lot of folks the wrong way, all over the SEC and ACC. His holier than thou attitude while doing the things he did, it did not make many friends. Chadwell basically burned a program to the ground on this way out. These 2 were never going to get a sniff due to the incoming NCAA sanctions. Its kind of hard to say “we know we messed up, but we have learned our lesson” and then hire one of these 2 guys.
Now on to Kiffin, who I thought would be great. I think he is a great offensive coach and also his players love him. He is also a huge smart ass, which I also love, we need another Spurrier type in the SEC, might as well be at UT. However Kiffin burnt so many bridges on his way out of Knoxville, it just wasn’t going to happen.
That being said, I did talk to 2 ADs who are in the ACC, they are friends of mine from being here in Atlanta (not hard to figure out who they are, my dad played ball at The Institute and most of my family went there). Both thought CJH was a great choice considering the circumstances and were actually surprised he took the job. That was all due to Danny White.
With that being said, this has been a great ride and it was great talking to all of you in the coachery thread (also the plane tracking thread was very amusing). All of you are awesome, even if we didn’t agree. Love the passion for UT.
On another note, I finished my treatment for a rare blood cancer today and so far everything looks good. If it is not caught in time or treatment doesn’t work, you have a 2 - 4 year life expectancy. That was found last year on a routine checkup and because of course it was 2020. Following this thread and chatting with all of you took my mind off of that as well as my grind at work with all the Covid patients we have been seeing. Needless to say to has been a depressing and trying time, but you guys and gals made it all better. For that I truly thank you.
Stay safe and peace,
Er Vol
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Thanks for sharing that, Er Vol, makes compete sense that it played out along these lines. I'm dealing with the same thing health wise. I wish you the absolute best.
 
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munsterlander said:
Thanks for sharing that, Er Vol, makes compete sense that it played out along these lines. I'm dealing with the same thing health wise. I wish you the absolute best.
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Good luck and hang in there brother. I know it's hard, but always try and keep a positive attitude. I hope everything works out for you.
 
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