Colin Kaepernick sits during national anthem

[hog88]

That's a funny line of logic you're employing.

How so?

 

[Rickyvol77]

What percentage of the public has to find something offensive and to what degree before we call it offensive?

Freedom really trumps people's hurt feelings, whether it's 1 person offended or 10 million.
If you believe that someone should be threatened, or fired for wearing a t-shirt on his own time fishing of a cable network, you are delusionally insane

 

[luthervol]

ok, do you state publically that they need to apologize or be fired for having that view, and call them racist?

Who? The people kneeling of the people who are offended by the kneeling?

 

[0nelilreb]

Where do you draw the line, personally?

For me it’s a personal right of free speech and freedom of thought . ( regardless of how stupid it is ) . This isn’t going to be pleasant for some to hear but we can’t support one groups right to offend and not another’s . Group think and counter culture is bad for an open society . IMO

 

[hog88]

You need the t-shirt that I posted a picture of. You want the name of the place to buy one?

Buy it? Hell no, my daughter has the equipment to make them. Already sent her a picture.

 

[luthervol]

Trump could end this tread today by tweeting out that he has changed his mind and is for kneeling now as a matter of respect for our right to protest . So from this day forward , I request that all athletes kneel to support our constitutional right .

Trump could do a lot of things if he had a desire to unite.............but he doesn't.

 

[Weezer]

If you saw someone wearing an Al Jazeera t-shirt you would lose your mind.

No.

 

[0nelilreb]

Trump could do a lot of things if he had a desire to unite.............but he doesn't.

That would unite , it would cause a rush in the other direction not to kneel .That’s how silly it’s gotten .

 

[DinkinFlicka]

How so?

It just seems as though you're implying that he cannot be a moron because he has a financially successful career.

I think it's a pretty moronic move to wear the shirt of a news network dedicated to fellating a POTUS who is fanning the divisive flames surrounding police brutality when your job entails connecting with and commanding the respect of a group of predominantly young, impressionable, black men.

If I'm incorrect about your implication, please correct me. I remember you referring to Gov. Lee as a moron a few months ago. He seems to have "done well" for himself.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

For me it’s a personal right of free speech and freedom of thought . ( regardless of how stupid it is ) . This isn’t going to be pleasant for some to hear but we can’t support one groups right to offend and not another’s . Group think and counter culture is bad for an open society . IMO

I guess I'll rephrase...

How offensive can the shirt be in lilreb-land?

 

[hog88]

@DinkinFlicka

Being a moron and one off moronic acts are completely different. Both you and I have done moronic things but I wouldn't consider either of us to be morons.

Although wearing that tshirt was in no way moronic, insensitive or offensive.

 

[MOOOOONEY]

32 QB's start, LOL.

He's probably better than a handful of them, but you are right. They didn't want the negative attention from all the sensitive red hats.

You vag hats are just emotionally unhinged.

Spew your political agenda at your job. Run off customers(fans) and see if your ass isn’t fired.

For someone that claims to be a libertarian you sound just like a vag hat.

 

[Weezer]

I see or hear things all the time that I don't necessarily agree with, but as long as it's not actually harming someone, I tend to keep my mouth shut, because I realize not everyone has to think or believe like I do.

 

[TheDeeble]

I see or hear things all the time that I don't necessarily agree with, but as long as it's not actually harming someone, I tend to keep my mouth shut, because I realize not everyone has to think or believe like I do.

That's not acceptable thought anymore. If you disagree with someone you're morally required to call on twitter to get them fired.

Will be interested to see if players are called racists for standing during the National Anthem this football season.

 

[UT_VOLS13]

That's not acceptable thought anymore. If you disagree with someone you're morally required to call on twitter to get them fired.

Will be interested to see if players are called racists for standing during the National Anthem this football season.

Or the fan beside you that is kneeling.

 

[Weezer]

That's not acceptable thought anymore. If you disagree with someone you're morally required to call on twitter to get them fired.

Will be interested to see if players are called racists for standing during the National Anthem this football season.

Somewhere, the ghost of George Orwell is saying "I told you so!".

 

[DinkinFlicka]

@DinkinFlicka

Being a moron and one off moronic acts are completely different. Both you and I have done moronic things but I wouldn't consider either of us to be morons.

Although wearing that tshirt was in no way moronic, insensitive or offensive.

I've never done anything moronic. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I stated why his decision was moronic. Can you not state why it wasn't?

So, was Lee's decision in March moronic, or is Lee a moron?

 

[Sandman 423]

If you saw someone wearing an Al Jazeera t-shirt you would lose your mind.

Lets do a national dress code. That way no one can be offended.

 

[n_huffhines]

I heard on the radio yesterday he skipped a workout where the number was $3M. He apparently has turned down interest in contracts with heavy incentives too.
Let's face it he really doesn't want to play again, he risks losing the Nike money and his platform if he falls on his face and at 32 that's a significant probability. You can tout his QB rating in 2016, but he was 1-10, that is not good and that's after he was 2-6 the year before. His last winning season was 2013.

Link to any of this?

 

[Weezer]

I've never done anything moronic. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I stated why his decision was moronic. Can you not state why it wasn't?

So, was Lee's decision in March moronic, or is Lee a moron?

Not who you asked, but I tend to think all politicians are morons.

 

[0nelilreb]

I guess I'll rephrase...

How offensive can the shirt be in lilreb-land?

Just as offensive as you wish it to be . Same as dropping Fbombs every time you leave the house . Will it offend people ? Sure it will . Do they have a right to call you an Ahole for wearing it , absolutely. Should they try to get you fired , arrested , fined , put hands on you . No they should never . We don’t change people’s minds with threats and intimidation you do that through discussion. Maybe the guy threw the shirt on without thinking about , I have may t-shirts I do that with because they are just shirts to cover my chiseled and sculptured body to keep NGV from jumping me .

 

[Franklin Pierce]

Everybody, including the Bolsheviks, know that Kappy does NOT want to play football.

 

[hog88]

I've never done anything moronic. That's my story and I'm sticking to it.

I stated why his decision was moronic. Can you not state why it wasn't?

So, was Lee's decision in March moronic, or is Lee a moron?

It wasn't moronic because he was not out promoting anything, he wore a tshirt to go fishing with his kids.

Now, should he have known he had recruited a bunch of sissified pantywastes that would raise a stink about it? Yeah you might could argue that he should know his players better or recruit players with a little less estrogen coursing through their veins.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Not who you asked, but I tend to think all politicians are morons.

Oooooooh. I'm curious.

Care to expound?

 

[n_huffhines]

You're doing exactly what you're accusing me of doing. He was not this great QB that you seem to want to portray. He was not some phenomenal talent. Hell, he was benched the first part of that season. Like it or not, wins and losses factor into how a QB is perceived. He's not a starter in the league for a reason, and it doesn't involve collusion. If he was that talented, teams wouldn't give a damn, they'd sign him. Look at the number of teams that were willing to give Antonio Bryant a shot, because he was that damn good. The same is not true of CK.

If anyone needs to stop shoveling BS, it's you. Apparently you have no idea how the NFL does business. If you're going to bring headaches, you better be worth it, and up until now, he hasn't been. I will say, with all that is currently going on, it would not surprise me if he were to get signed, but if it happens, it's all about image. It's not about talent. It's all about the NFL wanting to look good, to look like they care. For the NFL, and all of its owners, it's always about what is best for business.

You're misrepresenting me now. I said top 30 and used his 22nd rated QBR to back that up. In no way have I implied or expressed that he was "some phenomenal talent". Top 30 QB's get benched. It happens. A terrible team benching him, and then learning that he was not the problem and reinstating him is not evidence at all that he's not top 30. For some reason you seem to think being top 30 would make him untouchable, and you're using that to make your case, but it's just not the reality.