College football playoff

#201
#201
kptvol said:
Whereas your view of college football is about as grounded in reality as Scientology.
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OK. My exmaple was spot on. Your view on college football is like Gordon Gee's. Your response is to come back with nonsense. My view of wanting to see conference champions play it out on the field. Insane!!!!!!! Crazy!!!!!! Wacky!!!!!!!!
 
#202
#202
hmanvolfan said:
Just stating that it's unfair for a team to go undefeated in their season and have no chance at redemption. The BCS and major bowl games are an elitest concept that is just plain wrong. By the way, how ironic is it that the #2 BCS school, South Florida for crying out loud, is currently losing to Rutgers? Everybody keep on saying all is right in college football and a playoff system is plague.
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and even with that example, a plus one would have taken care of that.

these things don't happen too often, in fact, that's the only time you've had 3 undefeated teams at the end since the incpetion of the BCS.

and i'd add that part of the problem with that season was the pre season polls. both USC and OK started off in the top 3 while Aubbie started off outside the top 10. had the polls not come out to 4-5 weeks in the season, that may have changed things......

and USF lost last night, which was basically an elimination game for them.

i'm just saying, the system we have not, while not perfect, does work more times than not. the only tweak it really needs is a plus one at the end. this year, last year, 04 etc....it would have been great to have those top 4 play it out and see what happened.

but you can't ignore that what we have right now is as good, if not better, than a tourney at the end of the season, when you take in to consideration what goes on during the regular season.

so much football left to play, i'm betting it works out nicely by the end and you'll have two teams from the following list playing the BCS Title game and no one will have a problem with it: LSU, Cal, Oregon, USC, OK, OSU, BC.

and here's the best part.....Cal still plays USC, USC still plays Cal and Oregon, so those teams will take care of themselves, as if they were in a play off. OSU still has PSU and MI on the road, LSU still has Aub, Bama and probably an SEC Title game, OK still has the Big 12 title game....and BC still has tilts against VT, FSU, MIAMI, MD, Clemson...and maybe the ACC title game.

basically the rest of the season is a playoff to see who gets there, and if you can't see that, then i'm sorry. but several teams have played their way in to that position and several teams have played their way out of it: USF, FL, WVU, TX.
 
#203
#203
The sec sucked in 2004. Auburn didn't deserve the NC game. SC had a tough non conference schedule (and always does btw) and therefore was able to get past the fact that the pac-10 was pretty miserable.
 
#204
#204
droski said:
The sec sucked in 2004. Auburn didn't deserve the NC game. SC had a tough non conference schedule (and always does btw) and therefore was able to get past the fact that the pac-10 was pretty miserable.
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that's debatable. the citadel game thing really hurts when comparing schedules, no arguement, but an undefeated SEC champ is hardly what i'd call "undeserving".

bottom line though, you have a plus one and it's not an issue.

the SEC was down in 04, i'd agree with that.
 
#205
#205
I'm in favor of a plus one, no question. The 5th-8th teams will bitch but 99% of the time they will not have much of a case.
 
#206
#206
I'm still waiting for someone to cite a year in which a plus one system wouldn't have cleared up all reasonable controversy.
 
#209
#209
The plus one as I understand it would be a game between 2 teams that each just won a game the week before. Thus 4 teams had the capability of getting to the title game.
 
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#210
allvol123 said:
The plus one as I understand it would be a game between 2 teams that each just won a game the week before. Thus 4 teams had the capability of getting to the title game.
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It would be the two top ranked remaining teams. There wouldn't be any seeding of 1 v. 4 and 2 v. 3.
 
#212
#212
I thought both options were being discussed. I would rather see them seed. I don't see how it would be fair otherwise.
 
#213
#213
allvol123 said:
The plus one as I understand it would be a game between 2 teams that each just won a game the week before. Thus 4 teams had the capability of getting to the title game.
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hatvol96 said:
It would be the two top ranked remaining teams. There wouldn't be any seeding of 1 v. 4 and 2 v. 3.
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either way.......1 v 4, 2 v 3, or play the games and run the BCS again and have one more game....i think i could live with either of them.
 
#214
#214
vader said:
I think a plus one format would work nicely.
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Of course it would. Most years it's not even needed. Let's just go back through the history of the BCS:
1998-Tennessee-Only undefeated major conference team. No dispute.
1999-Florida State-Only unbeaten major conference team. No dispute.
2000-Oklahoma-Only unbeaten major conference team. No dispute.
2001-Miami-Only unbeaten major conference school. No dispute.
2002-Ohio State-Only unbeaten major conference school. No dispute.
2003-LSU-Only dispute from USC fans crying about a system they signed up for.
2004-USC-Only dispute from overhaul wearing Auburn hicks who thought playing The Citadel was a good idea.
2005-Texas-Only unbeaten major conference team. No dispute.
2006-Florida-Destroyed the only regular season unbeaten and also beat LSU during the season. Only dispute from people in Boise suffering from oxygen deprivation to the point they think the Broncos could have competed with UF.
 
#215
#215
So no disputes for the first 5 years in a row. Then 3 disputes in the next 4 years, albeit it ones that you so modestly put in their place.
 
#217
#217
Boise State had about the same right to lobby for a shot at the national title last year that West Virginia did to say their NIT championship should get them a playoff with Florida for the college hoops crown.
 
#220
#220
allvol123 said:
So no disputes for the first 5 years in a row. Then 3 disputes in the next 4 years, albeit it ones that you so modestly put in their place.
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To me, if you willingly sign up for a system, you can't cry when it runs its course. Boise State isn't in a BCS conference, so they actually have a better complaint than SC and Awfulburn. They weren't wailing about a system they helped create.
 
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#224
allvol123 said:
Kind of like a UF team that beat a bad UT team by 1, beat USC with a blocked FG, etc....
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Did Florida lose to a bad Oregon team last year? I missed that. Also, I was unaware that the SEC and Big XII were equivalents last season.
 
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