Colorado Springs nightclub shooting

[Caculator]

Why would charges from a bomb threat and swat standoff be dropped? Why would the state want to seal those records and make them inaccessible to a background check? Nothing about this says anything fell through the cracks. These were purposeful acts

Soros funded DA?

 

[hog88]

Bomb threat, police stand-off, whole 9 yards - can still legally purchase a gun.

Yeah, gun laws are totally fine.

Enforcement of existing laws suck, what makes you think more laws would fix anything?

 

[zeppelin128]

No it didnt fall through the cracks. State law seals the records if no charges are pressed. That sealing, done on purpose, is not a crack. It's just yet another example of idealism getting in the way of practicality.

Yeah, I think this guy fell through the cracks of the system. Has nothing to do with "idealism".

 

[ClearwaterVol]

No it didnt fall through the cracks. State law seals the records if no charges are pressed. That sealing, done on purpose, is not a crack. It's just yet another example of idealism getting in the way of practicality.

So, when the state charges someone and decides they made a mistake... that mistake by the state should be accessible for the world to see forever.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Show me you are losing the argument without actually showing me....

You have shown yourself to be a bigoted hateful person in multiple threads.

 

[hog88]

So, when the state charges someone and decides they made a mistake... that mistake by the state should be accessible for the world to see forever.

It's the question of why were the charges dropped. If the police/DA actually made a mistake in arresting/charging then yes I agree with you, the arrest records should be sealed.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

It's the question of why were the charges dropped. If the police/DA actually made a mistake in arresting/charging then yes I agree with you, the arrest records should be sealed.

Governmental entities do not operate well when given too much discretion. It is more of an all or nothing situation because nobody will admit to a mistake.

 

[0nelilreb]

So, when the state charges someone and decides they made a mistake... that mistake by the state should be accessible for the world to see forever.

I think the problem is that when they are sealed we can’t find out what really happened , mistake , not mistake , why were they sealed and why would a state make such a big mistake to charge him only to drop them ?

 

[LouderVol]

Why would charges from a bomb threat and swat standoff be dropped? Why would the state want to seal those records and make them inaccessible to a background check? Nothing about this says anything fell through the cracks. These were purposeful acts

Because its state effing law. Why does everyone keep ignoring that fact.

"Asked about those charges on Monday, Mr. Allen, the district attorney, did not directly address them but noted that Colorado has restrictive sealing laws that protect people when charges against them have been dismissed." That quote is from my article in my first or second post, third or fourth in this thread.

It's a state law that kept his background from coming up in a background search.

 

[LouderVol]

Yeah, I think this guy fell through the cracks of the system. Has nothing to do with "idealism".

The system worked as intended. That's not a crack. The idealism was thinking that all these overlapping law were actually intended to keep people safe. Or at least would keep people safe.

 

[zeppelin128]

You have shown yourself to be a bigoted hateful person in multiple threads.

I'm sure he is celebrating this.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Because its state effing law. Why does everyone keep ignoring that fact.

"Asked about those charges on Monday, Mr. Allen, the district attorney, did not directly address them but noted that Colorado has restrictive sealing laws that protect people when charges against them have been dismissed." That quote is from my article in my first or second post, third or fourth in this thread.

It's a state law that kept his background from coming up in a background search.

Guilt is a qualifying necessity to disqualify gun ownership everywhere.

 

[utvolpj]

Because its state effing law. Why does everyone keep ignoring that fact.

"Asked about those charges on Monday, Mr. Allen, the district attorney, did not directly address them but noted that Colorado has restrictive sealing laws that protect people when charges against them have been dismissed." That quote is from my article in my first or second post, third or fourth in this thread.

It's a state law that kept his background from coming up in a background search.

I understand that but the law itself is a purposeful act. There are no cracks it's the actual design of the system.

I'm more interested in why a swat standoff from a bomb threat led to no charges. Seems that's the bigger oops here

I have alternate conspiracy theories about these shootings as well but that's just me

 

[InVOLuntary]

Bomb threat, police stand-off, whole 9 yards - can still legally purchase a gun.

Yeah, gun laws are totally fine.

So we need more laws that don't work.

 

[LouderVol]

So, when the state charges someone and decides they made a mistake... that mistake by the state should be accessible for the world to see forever.

I didnt write this law or the background checks. Dont look at me. I dont even live in colorado.

I do wonder how this guys past counts as a mistake by the state. There was a police standoff. I am not seeing a lot of gray there.

 

[K-town Vol Fan]

So we need more laws that don't work.

No, we need more laws that DO work

 

[zeppelin128]

The system worked as intended. That's not a crack. The idealism was thinking that all these overlapping law were actually intended to keep people safe. Or at least would keep people safe.

True, the idealism was thinking LGBTQ folks would be safe in their own space. I was completely wrong and naïve about that. That is obviously not the case.

 

[InVOLuntary]

No, we need more laws that DO work

There are laws in place that should have prevented this guy from getting a gun. Your liberal, let everyone off justice system is what failed.

 

[volgr]

I'm sure he is celebrating this.

Yes, I am "hateful" according to some (can they provide evidence of that?) but the quoted post above is....??

 

[Caculator]

True, the idealism was thinking LGBTQ folks would be safe in their own space. I was completely wrong and naïve about that. That is obviously not the case.

Exactly who is safer in their own space?

 

[zeppelin128]

Yes, I am "hateful" according to some (can they provide evidence of that?) but the quoted post above is....??

You want a Qatari type of government in regards to LGBTQ folks. Yes, you are a hateful bigot.

 

[Caculator]

No, we need more laws that DO work

You often do the same thing over and over while expecting different results? There is a word for that definition.

 

[zeppelin128]

Exactly who is safer in their own space?

Not gay folks, as this has shown.

 

[volgr]

You want a Qatari type of government in regards to LGBTQ folks. Yes, you are a hateful bigot.

Again, be specific. I have never said I want a Qatari type response to alternate lifestyles. I don't even know what their full position is. I said we could use that here, talking about their ban on alternate lifestyle symbols in public.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Again, be specific. I have never said I want a Qatari type response to alternate lifestyles. I don't even know what their full position is. I said we could use that here, talking about their ban on alternate lifestyle symbols in public.

So, you’re for laws banning homosexual acts?