Colorado storming field before game was over

[pimo1]

I have no problem with Colorado students and people rushing the field. Wasn't the point of my comment. They can do whatever. Point of my comment was Sanders has made it known he doesn’t give two fks about anyone there outside of Hunter and his kids. That is no secret. He doesn't care about the kids that put in work and if I was a kid on that OL I wouldn't block either. Matter of fact they may be a better team without the Sanders and Hunter down the road. I say that simply because of bonding and that team reeks of 3 players the others are just bodies.

Uhh its more than just those 3 and I think its less about he only cares about the few good players he has and more that's all he has. The main issue on that team is the Oline... the defense is okish and players are developing there. If he didn't care about anyone but his kids and hunter why did he bring in the coaches he did? Warren Sapp does not coach any of their positions.

 

[LouderVol]

Colorado will at the very least win 6 regular season games. They have 2 sure l's left on their schedule. Every other game is very winnable especially if their online gains a pulse.

winnable in the sense that you still have to play the game and wacky stuff happens with an oddly shaped ball. but not winnable in the sense that one would expect finding 3 more wins out of it, especially considering your "sure" wins.

they needed a hail mary and OT to beat the worst P4 team they are going to play.

 

[LouderVol]

Uhh its more than just those 3 and I think its less about he only cares about the few good players he has and more that's all he has. The main issue on that team is the Oline... the defense is okish and players are developing there. If he didn't care about anyone but his kids and hunter why did he bring in the coaches he did? Warren Sapp does not coach any of their positions.

by the same metric, why did he fire his OC last year? That was the one area they were succeeding, and it has been a step back sense then.

Sapp is an analyst, he doesn't coach any position, at least officially.

 

[pimo1]

winnable in the sense that you still have to play the game and wacky stuff happens with an oddly shaped ball. but not winnable in the sense that one would expect finding 3 more wins out of it, especially considering your "sure" wins.

they needed a hail mary and OT to beat the worst P4 team they are going to play.

You realise youre talking about a 3-1 team right? How deluded are people? UCF, Arizona, Cinicinati, Texas Tech and Kansas are all very winnable games for Colorado. They need 3 of those 5. Kansas State and Oklahoma State would be tough games and Utah is probably a loss.

IF some semblance of life can be found in the Oline and they limit things to 2-3 sacks a game this team becomes something completely different and would be looking at 8 wins. I know people want to hate but he took over a team that was 1-11. They wont 3 games last year and have already done that this year. If that is not progress what is? Colorado has never been an easy place to recruit to. Outside of that one run in the 90's its been rough. They have had one winning record since 2005. In English they have been worse than Vandy in the 2000's.

So yes what Prime has done there is impressive as heck. Its not sustainable and he knows it deep down but he is trying to use the talent he has to win himself into some hype to make the place a destination.

 

[LouderVol]

You realise youre talking about a 3-1 team right? How deluded are people? UCF, Arizona, Cinicinati, Texas Tech and Kansas are all very winnable games for Colorado. They need 3 of those 5. Kansas State and Oklahoma State would be tough games and Utah is probably a loss.

IF some semblance of life can be found in the Oline and they limit things to 2-3 sacks a game this team becomes something completely different and would be looking at 8 wins. I know people want to hate but he took over a team that was 1-11. They wont 3 games last year and have already done that this year. If that is not progress what is? Colorado has never been an easy place to recruit to. Outside of that one run in the 90's its been rough. They have had one winning record since 2005. In English they have been worse than Vandy in the 2000's.

So yes what Prime has done there is impressive as heck. Its not sustainable and he knows it deep down but he is trying to use the talent he has to win himself into some hype to make the place a destination.

it was a 4-0 start last year, and then they didn't win another game, so 3-1 this year doesn't impress me.

UCF is favored by two touchdowns. Arizona is a decent team. Cincinnati is playing better than last year. Tech and Kansas are down, but right now I would still say they are favored over CU.

he got more wins because he got more talent in there. and he did the same thing again, but at some point even you have to admit there are diminishing returns in trying to overhaul the whole team every season. and it doesn't seem like he is trying to change the way he builds teams. pretty sure they are last in high school recruiting in their conference again. seems like he steals a top guy or two towards the end, but I doubt they end in the top half of their conference.

If it wasn't for Shadeur and Travis they wouldn't have a win. Travis is probably the best player in the nation, while Shadeur would start for a lot of ranked teams. after those two, they don't have anything to lean on for next season to expect they will be able to maintain.

 

[pimo1]

it was a 4-0 start last year, and then they didn't win another game, so 3-1 this year doesn't impress me.

UCF is favored by two touchdowns. Arizona is a decent team. Cincinnati is playing better than last year. Tech and Kansas are down, but right now I would still say they are favored over CU.

he got more wins because he got more talent in there. and he did the same thing again, but at some point even you have to admit there are diminishing returns in trying to overhaul the whole team every season. and it doesn't seem like he is trying to change the way he builds teams. pretty sure they are last in high school recruiting in their conference again. seems like he steals a top guy or two towards the end, but I doubt they end in the top half of their conference.

If it wasn't for Shadeur and Travis they wouldn't have a win. Travis is probably the best player in the nation, while Shadeur would start for a lot of ranked teams. after those two, they don't have anything to lean on for next season to expect they will be able to maintain.

Colorado will get bowl-eligible.. mark my words. The win they pulled off against Baylor will fuel them. They showed some fight in that game.

Yes Hunter and Sanders are easily their best 2 players.. but that would be true if those 2 played on 90% of the teams in the nation. They are however not the only talented players they have. Horn, Sheppard, Wester and the freshman 5 start tackle we wont name. Yes outside of said unnamed tackle all are gonna next year. But they have young RB's and a QB by the name of Dominiq Ponder, whom people should keep an eye on. This is the portal world and as schools have proven this season the portal can do some wild stuff.

Last season James Madison shocked a lot of folks going 11-1. Their coach Curt Cignetti left to take the head coaching Job at Indiana and took some of their top players with him. James Madison said meh and reloaded in the portal. Right now James Madison is 3-0 and just dropped 70 points on an up til then undefeated UNC. Indiana? Oh they are just 4-0 averaging just over 50 points a game The portal makes some crazy ish possible and if Colorado can make a bowl this year they become a popular destination because they have NIL money and Prime+those uniforms is a hotter selling point than most people understand. That black and gold is a marketing jackpot on so many levels.

 

[207 others]

LMFAO that wouldn't happen. The hate is so strong it bypasses all logic. Shedur is one of the best QB's in the nation anyone questioning that does not know football. That kid is a dog. Like his dad or not but anyone taking that many hits and still performing deserves some level of respect. Don't have to like him but understand he is a threat.

Reminds me how peterman sucked balls then went to play in a soft conference to get traction playing soft ass sorry teams like Deon jr

 

[pimo1]

Reminds me how peterman sucked balls then went to play in a soft conference to get traction playing soft ass sorry teams like Deon jr

some folks cant be helped

 

[LouderVol]

Colorado will get bowl-eligible.. mark my words. The win they pulled off against Baylor will fuel them. They showed some fight in that game.

Yes Hunter and Sanders are easily their best 2 players.. but that would be true if those 2 played on 90% of the teams in the nation. They are however not the only talented players they have. Horn, Sheppard, Wester and the freshman 5 start tackle we wont name. Yes outside of said unnamed tackle all are gonna next year. But they have young RB's and a QB by the name of Dominiq Ponder, whom people should keep an eye on. This is the portal world and as schools have proven this season the portal can do some wild stuff.

Last season James Madison shocked a lot of folks going 11-1. Their coach Curt Cignetti left to take the head coaching Job at Indiana and took some of their top players with him. James Madison said meh and reloaded in the portal. Right now James Madison is 3-0 and just dropped 70 points on an up til then undefeated UNC. Indiana? Oh they are just 4-0 averaging just over 50 points a game The portal makes some crazy ish possible and if Colorado can make a bowl this year they become a popular destination because they have NIL money and Prime+those uniforms is a hotter selling point than most people understand. That black and gold is a marketing jackpot on so many levels.

I don't think Colorado is set up to actually thrive in that mindset. the coaches you named were able to get kids to buy into the team. It doesn't appear Deion can do that.

 

[Delmar]

Colorado will get bowl-eligible.. mark my words. The win they pulled off against Baylor will fuel them. They showed some fight in that game.

Yes Hunter and Sanders are easily their best 2 players.. but that would be true if those 2 played on 90% of the teams in the nation. They are however not the only talented players they have. Horn, Sheppard, Wester and the freshman 5 start tackle we wont name. Yes outside of said unnamed tackle all are gonna next year. But they have young RB's and a QB by the name of Dominiq Ponder, whom people should keep an eye on. This is the portal world and as schools have proven this season the portal can do some wild stuff.

Last season James Madison shocked a lot of folks going 11-1. Their coach Curt Cignetti left to take the head coaching Job at Indiana and took some of their top players with him. James Madison said meh and reloaded in the portal. Right now James Madison is 3-0 and just dropped 70 points on an up til then undefeated UNC. Indiana? Oh they are just 4-0 averaging just over 50 points a game The portal makes some crazy ish possible and if Colorado can make a bowl this year they become a popular destination because they have NIL money and Prime+those uniforms is a hotter selling point than most people understand. That black and gold is a marketing jackpot on so many levels.

If “bowl eligible” in an era with 100 bowl games is “successful”, then I guess Neon is a success. Don’t think anybody is going to have to worry about long term success though. Personally I think he is a joke and will be gone as soon as his kids leave the program. He out-talented teams at Jackson State and Colorado was desperate for attention of any kind. His record shows that he can’t out talent decent teams at this level. And I would be embarrassed if UT had to hire someone like Neon with his antics.

 

[pimo1]

I don't think Colorado is set up to actually thrive in that mindset. the coaches you named were able to get kids to buy into the team. It doesn't appear Deion can do that.

Based on what? He has been there 2.5 years. I feel like everyone on the team with the exception of one unit has bought in. I have watched all the games and those guys all play their hearts out. I even believe that the Oline does but they are just.. I dunno bad anyway?

Sanders was sacked 4.7 times a game last year worst in nation. So far this year 3.75 also worst in nation. He gets hit on almost every pass attempt. It is insane. They gave up 2 games this year 6 and 8 sacks respectively and WON one of them. they came back against Baylor and won. Even looking back at last year.. Against USC, Stanford, UCLA, Oregon State, Arizona.. (all but one of those teams was ranked) they lost those games but those were dogfights till the end.

They were blown out 2 games. Oregon...nothing to be embarrassed about. Washington State Shedur was knocked out of that game. Even more impressive Staub looked servicible against Utah. Only 3 games all year did they lose by more than a TD twice against ranked teams and the other a game Sanders was knocked out of early for the season. Sorry, looking at actual games and results this team has been very much bought in. If you read all the hate out there you'd think Colorado was getting boatraced left and right but that HAS NOT BEEN THE CASE AT ALL.

Youre telling me a team losing games at the end by single scores is not bought in and trying? Or maybe they are just an incomplete team that's rebuilding from a trainwreck. I will tell you had Prime not brought his sons and Hunter and others to Colorado they'd be still dreaming of 2 wins in an empty stadium. Who takes that Job? Who turns it around? Who gets kids from the beaches of Florida and California and the heat of Texas to go to the mountains and snow of Boulder?.. I'll wait. Like how he does what he does or not but no one can say they could've done better. No coach capable of turning that team around better than he has would have taken that job.. period.

Coaches don't go to Colorado to win or make a name historically.

Bill McCartney coach of their one (shared) National championship in 1990 was an assistant at Michigan 7 years head coach at Colorado 12 and .. that's it...

Rick Neuheisel the one 'success' story from Colorado pawned his 4 years there (left amidst a recruiting scandal) to a job at Washington... lasted 4 years there before sneaking out the burning back door to coach in high school and NFL for a few years before finally flaming out as head coach at his alma mater and dream job UCLA.

Gary Barnett more scandal became famous as the coach that coached Northwestern to 9 and 10 win seasons in 96 and 95 (they hadn't won 8 games since 1948 at the time) he was chased out of town in 2005 before their bowl game..

Since those 3 guys Colorado has had 1 winning season. and made 3 bowls all of which they lost (one was covid after a 4-1 record) if we count that one 2 winning seasons?


After Barnett here is their coaches

Dan Hawkins was famous for those 2001-2005 Boise State teams....took his talents to Colorado (19-39) and went downhill from there Coached at UC Davis (44-31) until last year and is currently on the administrative staff of Idaho State.

Jon Embree coached 2 years at Colorado (4-21) up till that point was a career assistant at colorado.. after that he went on to become a career assistant in the NFL.

Mike MacIntyre their 'good' coach in this stretch (30-44) Came from Sanjose State where he had one really good year (10 wins) Then had 6 years in Colorado where he won 10 games once and sucked balls the other 5. Went on to FUI where he's still sucking today

Mel Tucker don't even know what to say here. Coached there one year left for Michigan State hilarity ensued...

Karl Dorrell Had a forgettable career as UCLA's head coach for 5 years and 5 barely bowl games. DId have one good year where they were ranked. Returned to assistant ranks for 12 years after being fired there. Mostly NFL position coach. he was Primes predecessor lead the to a mighty 8-15 record in 3 years including his awsome 4-1 covid bowl season (his first and best year) he went on to win 4 more games all in his second year and was fired 5 years into his final year the 1-11 season where he won none of them.


So what does this tell us? Colorado is to coaches what the Cleveland Browns are to Quarterback careers. They have never had bigger name as their coach than Prime... not even close.. All their past hires in modern history were along the lines of the Dooleys and Butch Jones' of the world. As far as success Prime is so far well ahead of schedule compared to what they have had in the past.

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[Nicovfl8]

Whenever CU wins a close home game, they rush the field and act like they just beat a #1 team. They need to live in reality that Deion is and will not be a good coach. No hate towards him, He's just not the guy. And the media needs to cut back on the Buffs getting all the attention.

 

[n_huffhines]

Anyone who defends Deion or his son are asinine. Shedeur is a solid player but a scumbag of a teammate. Deion is not a players coach. He's out for himself and his son and no one else

The defense is that he's just a kid. "Scumbag?" I say ease up. Unless you're like 20 years old, or something. I just can't understand us older guys being so harsh about these young guys. These years in college are about learning, and he has some learning to do. That's all.

 

[n_huffhines]

Reminds me how peterman sucked balls then went to play in a soft conference to get traction playing soft ass sorry teams like Deon jr

Peterman threw 20 passes at Tennessee. That's not enough for us to know anything. The coaches just knew he wasn't as good as Dobbs, and he saw the writing on the wall.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

Colorado will get bowl-eligible.. mark my words. The win they pulled off against Baylor will fuel them. They showed some fight in that game.

Yes Hunter and Sanders are easily their best 2 players.. but that would be true if those 2 played on 90% of the teams in the nation. They are however not the only talented players they have. Horn, Sheppard, Wester and the freshman 5 start tackle we wont name. Yes outside of said unnamed tackle all are gonna next year. But they have young RB's and a QB by the name of Dominiq Ponder, whom people should keep an eye on. This is the portal world and as schools have proven this season the portal can do some wild stuff.

Last season James Madison shocked a lot of folks going 11-1. Their coach Curt Cignetti left to take the head coaching Job at Indiana and took some of their top players with him. James Madison said meh and reloaded in the portal. Right now James Madison is 3-0 and just dropped 70 points on an up til then undefeated UNC. Indiana? Oh they are just 4-0 averaging just over 50 points a game The portal makes some crazy ish possible and if Colorado can make a bowl this year they become a popular destination because they have NIL money and Prime+those uniforms is a hotter selling point than most people understand. That black and gold is a marketing jackpot on so many levels.

Didn’t you say this last year?

Do you run Blue Blood Bias on twitter?

 

[pimo1]

Didn’t you say this last year?

Do you run Blue Blood Bias on twitter?

I did think they would go bowling last year. I was wrong.. This year they have better players and an easier schedule. I do not fear being wrong. Or admitting I was wrong. Life is not simple and that's what makes it worth living. Its called having conviction as opposed to being a sheeple parroting the thoughts of others.

 

[RDU VOL#14]

I did think they would go bowling last year. I was wrong.. This year they have better players and an easier schedule. I do not fear being wrong. Or admitting I was wrong. Life is not simple and that's what makes it worth living. Its called having conviction as opposed to being a sheeple parroting the thoughts of others.

Fair enough . That win on Saturday was a huge step for them to go bowling .

 

[andydukey]

Go and watch a single full Colorado game from this year or last year. Then return here with that same energy. Honestly till midway through last season we (you and I) would have been of similar mind on this. But bro these guys are just bad bad. Its not cool to talk crap about teammates period. Thing is its like colorados oline is just bad on a level never seen before. I dont think its necessarily the players because they have talented guys who have proven they can play elsewhere. They have a proven coach. Its just like the pieces dont come together? Its not like this was happening at jack state.

If colorado can figure this out this season and get a good high school QB signed and find someone in the portal to bridge next year this team can make the next step. If not the prime era in Colorado ends in 2025. His one biggest mistake thus far has been not taking enough high school talent. They went to hard on build for now (NFL) instead of building a base.

Colorado fans storming the feild is no big deal. In fact it should gave been expected. As a UT fan i can kinda see how most wont get it. Even during the 15 years in the wilderness we never fell as low for as long as Colorado. We have a lot of history to lean back on. Colorado fans have like one short period of success ever and the rest of their history is about on the same level as Kentucky. Imagine if Vandy beat UT in nashville in overtime in a game like this game? Their fans would rush the field. They are incapable of storming or doing damage as you need a certain number of fans to rise to that level. But vandy fans would cause as much of a ruckus as they are capable of. Tearing down goalposts out of the question so theyd kick a security guy in the shins or something. Colorado does have enough fans because there is literally nothing else to do there so of course they will.

All jokes aside I think a lot of people dont put these situations in context before laying judgement. If you win fairly often only a really big win moves the needle. If your team really sucks. Like has really sucked for a long long time..winning a game folks have told you you wont when you think you can hits different. Also against a rival in dramatic fashion. Kent state no u cant rush the field beating them overtime. In conference rival..yup.

Colorado is one the most underrated environments. They have pee trough's just like Neyland. I am rabid UT fan and if I wasn't 39 woulda stormed the field with the students as well. It's an awesome student body.

 

[butchna]

also Colorado will not win another game this season. They might beat Cincinnati OR Kansas. But even KU looked ok vs WV who would even beat colorado

They play UCF this weekend. With their boothole fans I’m not sure who I’m pulling for.

 

[butchna]

by the same metric, why did he fire his OC last year? That was the one area they were succeeding, and it has been a step back sense then.

Sapp is an analyst, he doesn't coach any position, at least officially.

His whole process mirrors that of a fan/video game GM. Think this feel that and do the other. Dude’s always been a whim freak. Not a great combination with PRIME decision maker.

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I did think they would go bowling last year. I was wrong.. This year they have better players and an easier schedule. I do not fear being wrong. Or admitting I was wrong. Life is not simple and that's what makes it worth living. Its called having conviction as opposed to being a sheeple parroting the thoughts of others.

The problem is the coach at CO. I like the excitement and swagger and the revenue that Prime brings but he's not a good coach.

He'll get out out coached all day, every day if anyone can just stay close to him. I don't hate the guy and I think CO is getting exactly what they thought they'd get from him.

He's getting some great talent there but he's not developing a program, he's showcasing talent. That's fine and some of those kids will play on Sunday. They likely won't play in a meaningful bowl....... and many might opt out of a meaningless game even if eligible.

I don't hate Prime. He is what he is. A good player, promoter, salesman...... just not a good football coach.

 

[pimo1]

The problem is the coach at CO. I like the excitement and swagger and the revenue that Prime brings but he's not a good coach.

He'll get out out coached all day, every day if anyone can just stay close to him. I don't hate the guy and I think CO is getting exactly what they thought they'd get from him.

He's getting some great talent there but he's not developing a program, he's showcasing talent. That's fine and some of those kids will play on Sunday. They likely won't play in a meaningful bowl....... and many might opt out of a meaningless game even if eligible.

I don't hate Prime. He is what he is. A good player, promoter, salesman...... just not a good football coach.

I agree totally that Deion is not a very good X's and O's coach and id argue that's not as big a deal as some might think. Also, he is exactly what Colorado and college football needs for this transition. He is brash and his moves are setting a roadmap for how things are done (or not done). Most of these guys that have been in coaching for years are not gonna have the balls to hit the portal quite the way he has. he is the crash test dummy and a lot of do's and don'ts will be learned from his time in CO. I don't think he will last there long because no one lasts there long. On average in the modern era average coach is there 3-4 years. They haven't had a long term coach since McCartney left in 95. They do not have a rich history of winning in the TV era, even less in the color TV era. Because they are in Boulder Colorado. NIL changes that because its easier to convince a kid to go play in the snowy mountains of Boulder if he's getting paid to do it. Just a hint the kids that you need to build a winning program are rarely very accustomed to snow and mountains.

Prime will most likely not be anywhere near a hall of fame coach EVER. I do however think his efforts will contribute to how football programs are ran going forward. He will show a lot of things you can do that people think couldn't and he will also prove something you definitely should not do.

 

[Sin City Vol]

Storming the field against an unranked opponent..yea sounds about right

 

[SayUWantAreVOLution]

I agree totally that Deion is not a very good X's and O's coach and id argue that's not as big a deal as some might think. Also, he is exactly what Colorado and college football needs for this transition. He is brash and his moves are setting a roadmap for how things are done (or not done). Most of these guys that have been in coaching for years are not gonna have the balls to hit the portal quite the way he has. he is the crash test dummy and a lot of do's and don'ts will be learned from his time in CO. I don't think he will last there long because no one lasts there long. On average in the modern era average coach is there 3-4 years. They haven't had a long term coach since McCartney left in 95. They do not have a rich history of winning in the TV era, even less in the color TV era. Because they are in Boulder Colorado. NIL changes that because its easier to convince a kid to go play in the snowy mountains of Boulder if he's getting paid to do it. Just a hint the kids that you need to build a winning program are rarely very accustomed to snow and mountains.

Prime will most likely not be anywhere near a hall of fame coach EVER. I do however think his efforts will contribute to how football programs are ran going forward. He will show a lot of things you can do that people think couldn't and he will also prove something you definitely should not do.

We agree he's not a good technical coach.
We agree he's not building a long lasting career there.
We agree he's bringing flash and revenue to Boulder.

You think THAT'S what is going to be the new thing for programs in college football? Flash and revenue?

Prime isn't marketing mountains and snow to recruits, he's casually walking them past a plethora of cannabis shops in Boulder and letting them see that weed is like McDonald's there. That and NIL is THE big draw for Colorado currently. You're not going to get a charge out there like Alabama, Georgia, or Tennessee unless you club an officer with a pound of weed and even then the charge will be assault, not weed.

That can lead to good recruiting but without a coach that can win, who cares beyond the Boulder Chamber of Commerce?

 

[207 others]

They play UCF this weekend. With their boothole fans I’m not sure who I’m pulling for.

They'll lose