Colorado storming field before game was over

[Delmar]

Soooooo crickets from the prime haters club? 14 point underdogs win by 27. Like I said their one problem has been their Oline. Their oline finally plays a decent game they finally show a semblance of a rushing game and bam. Colorado will make a bowl game. UCF was probably one of the best teams on their schedule this year. The Ranked teams left on their schedule are all overrated. They have a bye week to rest and build on this win.

Prime will never be a hall of fame coach but he is what Colorado and college football need right now.

Correction. College football would move along just fine if Neon disappeared tomorrow. And I think he will once his kids exit. (Unless FSU gets real stupid.) He is a sideshow act and that’s about it. Wake me up when they beat somebody with a pulse.

 

[pimo1]

Correction. College football would move along just fine if Neon disappeared tomorrow. And I think he will once his kids exit. (Unless FSU gets real stupid.) He is a sideshow act and that’s about it. Wake me up when they beat somebody with a pulse.

uhhhhh lmfao...Baylor is not a ranked team but they are not pushovers...
UCF was leading the nation in rushing and a 14 point favorite sitting right outside the top 25. They had a legit scalp in TCU before this.

Why do people always move the goalposts? Literally. Last week it was Colorado wont win another game UCF is gonna boat-race them now its UCF sucks? Same thing before Baylor Game.

My stance has been Colorado will make a bowl game against their schedule. Which by any metric is an amazing turnaround from what they were. Primes value to Colorado and college football is this. He has proven he can turn around a team via the portal without a lot of NIL. Can it be done in the SEC or Big 10.. probably not but schools like Indiana, UNLV and James Madison are making a strong case the roadmap works in other conferences. The great thing for Prime in this argument, and most colleges in the USA, they are not in the SEC. He's done it a new way. I personally think there has to be a bit more balance but he has shown the blueprint. Personality works in this new age of social media. Haters are just as valuable as Fans because its all engagement.

I will lay mine out right here so goal posts cant be moved. In the next 4 games Colorado will get bowl eligible. Winning any of their last 3 games is icing on the cake. Moreover, if they have the same or better Oline play as they had against UCF the big 12 better be careful. Last year they averaged 68 rushing yards a game. This year 80 with that breakout 128 vs UCF.. this makes what Shedur has done with the passing game even more insane. Their pass to rush ratio is 40-23. If they can make team respect they can run...

Why can't people just admit Prime has improved this team and its still improving. You don't have to like him or how he does business.. But we can at least admit it works. They are producing results and generating excitement for their fanbase.. that's the job of a football coach and AD right? There are like 10 fanbases in the country that can realistically expect their team to compete for national championships period.... All of those schools are in the SEC and Big10 as of now. I mean historically not just this year. Colorados fan base is not expecting a natty anytime soon. They are at the multiple years of bowl games stage right now. The crazy thing is as things stand now Colordao is a prime contender to play in the big 12 championship and sneak in the playoffs. Their offense last year in a 4-8 season put up 28 points a game....against a much harder schedule. If their Oline can be decent and their RB's stay healthy they become down right scary in the Big12.... where they play and defense is an afterthought.

 

[feathersax]

Su;ck-fest in the Rockies. Deon & his homes are an embarassment.

 

[pimo1]

Su;ck-fest in the Rockies. Deon & his homes are an embarassment.

and 4-1

 

[feathersax]

and 4-1

Monster schedule, too. HAHAHA

 

[Delmar]

uhhhhh lmfao...Baylor is not a ranked team but they are not pushovers...
UCF was leading the nation in rushing and a 14 point favorite sitting right outside the top 25. They had a legit scalp in TCU before this.

Why do people always move the goalposts? Literally. Last week it was Colorado wont win another game UCF is gonna boat-race them now its UCF sucks? Same thing before Baylor Game.

My stance has been Colorado will make a bowl game against their schedule. Which by any metric is an amazing turnaround from what they were. Primes value to Colorado and college football is this. He has proven he can turn around a team via the portal without a lot of NIL. Can it be done in the SEC or Big 10.. probably not but schools like Indiana, UNLV and James Madison are making a strong case the roadmap works in other conferences. The great thing for Prime in this argument, and most colleges in the USA, they are not in the SEC. He's done it a new way. I personally think there has to be a bit more balance but he has shown the blueprint. Personality works in this new age of social media. Haters are just as valuable as Fans because its all engagement.

I will lay mine out right here so goal posts cant be moved. In the next 4 games Colorado will get bowl eligible. Winning any of their last 3 games is icing on the cake. Moreover, if they have the same or better Oline play as they had against UCF the big 12 better be careful. Last year they averaged 68 rushing yards a game. This year 80 with that breakout 128 vs UCF.. this makes what Shedur has done with the passing game even more insane. Their pass to rush ratio is 40-23. If they can make team respect they can run...

Why can't people just admit Prime has improved this team and its still improving. You don't have to like him or how he does business.. But we can at least admit it works. They are producing results and generating excitement for their fanbase.. that's the job of a football coach and AD right? There are like 10 fanbases in the country that can realistically expect their team to compete for national championships period.... All of those schools are in the SEC and Big10 as of now. I mean historically not just this year. Colorados fan base is not expecting a natty anytime soon. They are at the multiple years of bowl games stage right now. The crazy thing is as things stand now Colordao is a prime contender to play in the big 12 championship and sneak in the playoffs. Their offense last year in a 4-8 season put up 28 points a game....against a much harder schedule. If their Oline can be decent and their RB's stay healthy they become down right scary in the Big12.... where they play and defense is an afterthought.

Too long and don’t care enough to read. Congrats to Colorado making steady strides toward mediocrity. Just spent more time than the topic deserves.

 

[pimo1]

Monster schedule, too. HAHAHA

Still 4-1, they can only play who is on their schedule...the last few guys had problems getting 2 wins....Ya'll act like they have played nothing but scrubs. UCF is better than Oklahoma and Baylor and Nebraska are better than NC State. Colorado State is about equal to NC State. N Dakota State is better than UTC and Kent State easily they are 4-1 and ranked number 2 in FCS... so.. ehhhh they have literally not played a 'bad' team. 3 of the teams they played have 1 loss and 2 of those losses came from Colorado. have you even looked at their schedule bro? Their current (games they have played) SoS is 42 ours is 72......lmfao. Thats out of 134 schools so i'd say that a decent schedule. If theirs is weak ours is garbage right?

 

[RDU VOL#14]

uhhhhh lmfao...Baylor is not a ranked team but they are not pushovers...
UCF was leading the nation in rushing and a 14 point favorite sitting right outside the top 25. They had a legit scalp in TCU before this.

Why do people always move the goalposts? Literally. Last week it was Colorado wont win another game UCF is gonna boat-race them now its UCF sucks? Same thing before Baylor Game.

My stance has been Colorado will make a bowl game against their schedule. Which by any metric is an amazing turnaround from what they were. Primes value to Colorado and college football is this. He has proven he can turn around a team via the portal without a lot of NIL. Can it be done in the SEC or Big 10.. probably not but schools like Indiana, UNLV and James Madison are making a strong case the roadmap works in other conferences. The great thing for Prime in this argument, and most colleges in the USA, they are not in the SEC. He's done it a new way. I personally think there has to be a bit more balance but he has shown the blueprint. Personality works in this new age of social media. Haters are just as valuable as Fans because its all engagement.

I will lay mine out right here so goal posts cant be moved. In the next 4 games Colorado will get bowl eligible. Winning any of their last 3 games is icing on the cake. Moreover, if they have the same or better Oline play as they had against UCF the big 12 better be careful. Last year they averaged 68 rushing yards a game. This year 80 with that breakout 128 vs UCF.. this makes what Shedur has done with the passing game even more insane. Their pass to rush ratio is 40-23. If they can make team respect they can run...

Why can't people just admit Prime has improved this team and its still improving. You don't have to like him or how he does business.. But we can at least admit it works. They are producing results and generating excitement for their fanbase.. that's the job of a football coach and AD right? There are like 10 fanbases in the country that can realistically expect their team to compete for national championships period.... All of those schools are in the SEC and Big10 as of now. I mean historically not just this year. Colorados fan base is not expecting a natty anytime soon. They are at the multiple years of bowl games stage right now. The crazy thing is as things stand now Colordao is a prime contender to play in the big 12 championship and sneak in the playoffs. Their offense last year in a 4-8 season put up 28 points a game....against a much harder schedule. If their Oline can be decent and their RB's stay healthy they become down right scary in the Big12.... where they play and defense is an afterthought.

I think people were waiting for a real win. This is the first one of substance. I’ll give him and Colorado their flowers for this one. They deserve it. For the first time they deserve it. That’s all anybody wanted from them. Everyone is/was tired of their bull$hit, talking a big game, the commercials and not delivering, kind of like Baker Mayfield first getting into the league w/ all of those commercials . Now they’ve earned a little respect bc they beat a good program with a good coach.

 

[pimo1]

Too long and don’t care enough to read. Congrats to Colorado making steady strides toward mediocrity. Just spent more time than the topic deserves.

Gotcha. So basically your argument is grunts and clicks based on nothing? Jimmy Joe said Colorado sucks so they must mmmhmmm. Caz Jimmy Joe ain't ever wrong except ....oh yeah he's always wrong nvm..

TLDR people are arguing a team that's winning is actually terrible.. but they keep winning. So the people they play must be terrible.. but those teams are also mostly winning. Brains explode cant read anymore.

 

[LouderVol]

Still 4-1, they can only play who is on their schedule...the last few guys had problems getting 2 wins....Ya'll act like they have played nothing but scrubs. UCF is better than Oklahoma and Baylor and Nebraska are better than NC State. Colorado State is about equal to NC State. N Dakota State is better than UTC and Kent State easily they are 4-1 and ranked number 2 in FCS... so.. ehhhh they have literally not played a 'bad' team. 3 of the teams they played have 1 loss and 2 of those losses came from Colorado. have you even looked at their schedule bro? Their current (games they have played) SoS is 42 ours is 72......lmfao. Thats out of 134 schools so i'd say that a decent schedule. If theirs is weak ours is garbage right?

UCF is not better than Oklahoma. There is no overall metric that has UCF over Oklahoma. Sure UCF offense >> Oklahoma offense, but Oklahoma defense >>>>> UCF defense. Colorado's toughest game, at this point, will be Utah, and they get them at home. Utah is one spot ahead of Oklahoma, who we beat at their place; and is the third toughest game we will play.

they have played 2 bad teams, Baylor and CSU, Baylor is 0-3 in conference play, with two wins over a 1-3 Air Force and Tarleton State. Their coach is on the hot seat. CSU has beat Northern CO and 0-4 UTEP.

and 2 decent teams, Nebraska (loss) & UCF. NDSU probably leans more towards the decent. Nebraska just lost to the mighty Illini at home. and UCF's best win is a 1 point game over 2-2 TCU. NDSU only played one P5 game, but they are a team thats tough and CU beat them by 5, not exactly brag worthy. that's decent.

our schedule has been pretty garbage, I think that is one thing our fans have said consistently is that we haven't played anyone and don't really know what our team is capable of. but we aren't having to hype up the weak conference we are in. The SEC will sort itself out and the cream will rise to the top. In the current Big 12 its just a blender because there are no great teams, but someone has to win the games and will end up on top just out of default not because they are that good.

at this point single games are going to have an oversized effect on the toughness of the schedule just due to the small sample size. circle back on that SoS at the end of the season.

 

[pimo1]

UCF is not better than Oklahoma. There is no overall metric that has UCF over Oklahoma. Sure UCF offense >> Oklahoma offense, but Oklahoma defense >>>>> UCF defense. Colorado's toughest game, at this point, will be Utah, and they get them at home. Utah is one spot ahead of Oklahoma, who we beat at their place; and is the third toughest game we will play.

they have played 2 bad teams, Baylor and CSU, Baylor is 0-3 in conference play, with two wins over a 1-3 Air Force and Tarleton State. Their coach is on the hot seat. CSU has beat Northern CO and 0-4 UTEP.

and 2 decent teams, Nebraska (loss) & UCF. NDSU probably leans more towards the decent. Nebraska just lost to the mighty Illini at home. and UCF's best win is a 1 point game over 2-2 TCU. NDSU only played one P5 game, but they are a team thats tough and CU beat them by 5, not exactly brag worthy. that's decent.

our schedule has been pretty garbage, I think that is one thing our fans have said consistently is that we haven't played anyone and don't really know what our team is capable of. but we aren't having to hype up the weak conference we are in. The SEC will sort itself out and the cream will rise to the top. In the current Big 12 its just a blender because there are no great teams, but someone has to win the games and will end up on top just out of default not because they are that good.

at this point single games are going to have an oversized effect on the toughness of the schedule just due to the small sample size. circle back on that SoS at the end of the season.

Agree with you and your thoughts on SoS our current SoS is worse than Colorados our remaining SoS is 6th in the nation. Theirs not so much. But my reply was to the poster saying they haven't played anyone.. My point is, comparably, neither have we. Arkansas will be the toughest team we have laid so far. At the very least the most complete team. NC State and Oklahoma both had good defenses and terrible offenses. Kent State and UTC were not in the same league. UTC is a good FCS team but we are FBS and P4 Kent State is probably the worst FBS team there is below a lot of FCS teams.

Our Defense destroys QB's. Of the 4 teams we played only UTCs QB is still standing. The rest have been replaced.

The one good thing about our schedule is it lets Our offense and defense to settle into their groove before showtime. We are ramping up. Trying to be cup half full guy here. I'm hoping this builds the confidence of the secondary getting live snaps.. I know everyone is down on Florida but I think Arkansas and Florida are going to be tougher tests than what we have seen so far. yes they are 2-2 but they lost to 2 decent ranked teams and stomped the 2 teams they should have. Similar Story with Arkansas they smacked down the 3 bad teams they played and lost close games to 2 ranked teams. Coming out of these 2 games unscathed will get us ready for whats next. We only have 3 gimmes left the rest of the teams on our schedule are all threats of varying levels. Kentucky is an enigma. Alabama and Georgia are good Arkansas and Florida are decent and hungry to prove something. Even Vandy is showing a weird level of fight. UTEP and Miss State are hot garbage.

I think this schedule works out well for this team that has a lot of young and new guys we are depending on. Nico is developing great. Our offensive line is gelling and getting more healthy and our secondary so far has been silently good. They wont get truly tested until Florida. Arkansas QB is not very good at the throwing part of quarterbacking. He is a poor mans Milton IMHO. Weaker arm and less arm talent but faster on his feet.

 

[pimo1]

The one thing that most haters have missed and the one really good argument they should be pushing since (this season is heading to be a big turnorund for CU) is roster. Next year unless they get some serious development or surprise wins in recruiting/portal. CUs roster is gonna be barebones.

they don't have a HS QB committed and they return 2 freshmen who were 3 stars

they have 1 WR committed and their 2 top WR returning next season have 10 catches for 104 yards and 1td combined so far. The 2 of them together would still be a distant 5th WR on the team.

most of their secondary also gone.

most of their front 7 seniors

The only unit on their team likely to mostly return is their 'mighty' Oline.

Its not impossible that they get a big haul in the portal.. its highly likely in fact. But they need a top 50 recruiting class with more than 15 high school guys. They brought in 11 plus 1 Juco this past year and 43 transfers. They need a full 25 recruiting class this season or this all falls apart I the next year or two. The bowl game this season will have people clamoring for conference champs next season and that's not realistic. But if they start doing full recruiting and development maybe by 2026 they can be regular bowlers.

 

[UTFanForLife]

The one thing that most haters have missed and the one really good argument they should be pushing since (this season is heading to be a big turnorund for CU) is roster. Next year unless they get some serious development or surprise wins in recruiting/portal. CUs roster is gonna be barebones.

they don't have a HS QB committed and they return 2 freshmen who were 3 stars

they have 1 WR committed and their 2 top WR returning next season have 10 catches for 104 yards and 1td combined so far. The 2 of them together would still be a distant 5th WR on the team.

most of their secondary also gone.

most of their front 7 seniors

The only unit on their team likely to mostly return is their 'mighty' Oline.

Its not impossible that they get a big haul in the portal.. its highly likely in fact. But they need a top 50 recruiting class with more than 15 high school guys. They brought in 11 plus 1 Juco this past year and 43 transfers. They need a full 25 recruiting class this season or this all falls apart I the next year or two. The bowl game this season will have people clamoring for conference champs next season and that's not realistic. But if they start doing full recruiting and development maybe by 2026 they can be regular bowlers.

I don’t see Deion sticking around at Colorado past this season.

 

[LouderVol]

The one thing that most haters have missed and the one really good argument they should be pushing since (this season is heading to be a big turnorund for CU) is roster. Next year unless they get some serious development or surprise wins in recruiting/portal. CUs roster is gonna be barebones.

they don't have a HS QB committed and they return 2 freshmen who were 3 stars

they have 1 WR committed and their 2 top WR returning next season have 10 catches for 104 yards and 1td combined so far. The 2 of them together would still be a distant 5th WR on the team.

most of their secondary also gone.

most of their front 7 seniors

The only unit on their team likely to mostly return is their 'mighty' Oline.

Its not impossible that they get a big haul in the portal.. its highly likely in fact. But they need a top 50 recruiting class with more than 15 high school guys. They brought in 11 plus 1 Juco this past year and 43 transfers. They need a full 25 recruiting class this season or this all falls apart I the next year or two. The bowl game this season will have people clamoring for conference champs next season and that's not realistic. But if they start doing full recruiting and development maybe by 2026 they can be regular bowlers.

I brought this up earlier. how they were a three person team, and you dismissed the argument because of how the team was playing around them.

They are at best a 1 win team this year if it wasn't for Shadeur and Travis, who are both gone. regardless of anyone else those two are the reasons they have won games.

 

[pimo1]

I brought this up earlier. how they were a three person team, and you dismissed the argument because of how the team was playing around them.

They are at best a 1 win team this year if it wasn't for Shadeur and Travis, who are both gone. regardless of anyone else those two are the reasons they have won games.

It is not a 3 person team at all. All their units are solid with the exception of the Oline. They are 4-5 deep at WR they have decent RB's that are held back by that line. Their defense is deep and decent. The thing that is lost on most haters is yes they only won 4 games last season. But look at their losses. Outside of Oregon EVERY game that Shedur was healthy for was a close game. They got blew out by Oregon (which was to be expected by any sane person) and after Shedur was injured. But their defense was good enough to keep them in games. The fact they couldn't run the ball has been their downfall since day 1.

No team is very good without their best players, you are being ridiculous. Trust me you pick any team with a star QB and WR and remove them fro the team and that team loses a lot of games. So whats your point? They have the players they have to play this season. What they have after that is up to them and we will see. But saying the team they have right now is only good because of the players they have is beyond silly. That is the definition of a Captain Obvious moment.

 

[pimo1]

I don’t see Deion sticking around at Colorado past this season.

Based on? outside of the FSU job coming open its not likely he will leave for any jobs likely to be out there. Deion Sanders has given 0 indication he is leaving Colorado in fact he has said the opposite. Prime has 0 track record of being dishonest. Like him or not he is brash, thin skinned and a bit on the old-school ratchet side. But he has always been straight forward and honest. A man of his word even when going back on it would probably be in his best interest at times. If people look at who the guy actually is instead of what they want to portray him as they'd see a different guy.

I do not like his personality. I think he is way too old school and his prime persona seems forced at times because it conflicts with the actual man. He is stuck in it. But he has always been a 'godly' man. Even as a player his rap album (released under Hammers label) notice no explicit lyrics sticker? He didn't have 5000 baby mamas. All 5 of his kids were born in wedlock and raised by him. He was always an outspoken Christian. It's not like he changed as he got older. That is the real man and there is a certain level of respect I have for people like that. He pushes his players to behave like men and respect their elders. He is old school as heck. Not the kind of guy i'd hang with but one I'd send my son to play for.

I think people Mix him up with Leon Sandcastle or something and get caught up in soundbites. They don't look into what the man has actually done. I think its really sad. Why can't we look at the situation there as what it is? He has turned around a program that was a dumpsterfire. 4 wins is a huge turnaround from 1. And its not like that 1 win season was an aberration. They have had a winning record once in a full season since 2005 (they also had a 4-2 record in 2020). they have had two 1 win seasons two 2 win seasons two 3 win seasons and five 4 win seasons. We at UT called our 13 year trip to the wastelands bad.. we had a 4 seasons in that period that were 3-4 wins and multiple 8-11 wins seasons also. They had 1. In 18 years they won more than 6 games once.

To put this in perspective I looked through the SEC to find a comparable situation.. there isn't one which explains why its so hard for some of us to wrap our heads around it. Even Vandy has never had a streak of football that bad that long. Post 2005 Colorado has been to 1.5 bowls (covid year). Vandy 6, Kentucky 13 ,Mississippi State 14. Those are the worst SEC teams during that period. Kentucky has a couple 2 win seasons and a 3.. no 1 win season. Vandy has had a few 2 and 3 win seasons and the 0 win covid year...but still not comparable. Miss State has only missed 5 bowls in 18 years and never won less than 3 (twice). What he has done at Colorado is approaching what James Franklin did at Vandy.

 

[LouderVol]

It is not a 3 person team at all. All their units are solid with the exception of the Oline. They are 4-5 deep at WR they have decent RB's that are held back by that line. Their defense is deep and decent. The thing that is lost on most haters is yes they only won 4 games last season. But look at their losses. Outside of Oregon EVERY game that Shedur was healthy for was a close game. They got blew out by Oregon (which was to be expected by any sane person) and after Shedur was injured. But their defense was good enough to keep them in games. The fact they couldn't run the ball has been their downfall since day 1.

No team is very good without their best players, you are being ridiculous. Trust me you pick any team with a star QB and WR and remove them fro the team and that team loses a lot of games. So whats your point? They have the players they have to play this season. What they have after that is up to them and we will see. But saying the team they have right now is only good because of the players they have is beyond silly. That is the definition of a Captain Obvious moment.

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Their defense isn't deep or decent, outside of Travis Hunter who may be the best player in the nation. Travis erases a lot of issues and allowed CU to focus all there attention on the other positions with schemes. once he is gone there is no one left to make them look decent. they will have to start covering the entire field, and won't have someone they can rely on.

Solo tackles they have 2 guys in the conferences Top 25, but I am pretty sure both of them are done after this year,
they have 1 guy in the Top 25 for sacks in the conference
they do have 1 other guy in the Top 25 for INTs besides Hunter, so I will give some benefit of the doubt.

I agree everyone looks a lot worse if you best guys aren't performing, except for us with Pearce because we have actual depth. but they aren't deep to say they have some sort of foundation for next season.

 

[pimo1]

Their defense isn't deep or decent, outside of Travis Hunter who may be the best player in the nation. Travis erases a lot of issues and allowed CU to focus all there attention on the other positions with schemes. once he is gone there is no one left to make them look decent. they will have to start covering the entire field, and won't have someone they can rely on.

Solo tackles they have 2 guys in the conferences Top 25, but I am pretty sure both of them are done after this year,
they have 1 guy in the Top 25 for sacks in the conference
they do have 1 other guy in the Top 25 for INTs besides Hunter, so I will give some benefit of the doubt.

I agree everyone looks a lot worse if you best guys aren't performing, except for us with Pearce because we have actual depth. but they aren't deep to say they have some sort of foundation for next season.

They have more decent players on defense than Travis Hunter. You must not have watched much Colorado games actually. Preston Hodge, Shilo, Silmon-Craig, Mcoy, Bentley and a few young guys also looking ok like Taje McCoy and Samuel Okunlola. They have a decent defense. They play in the new Big 12.. not the old big 12 not the SEC. If you start comparing teams fro that conference to the SEC and the teams that left the Big 12 they all have terrible defenses. Their defense is ranked well ahead of FSU and Clemson lol. Comparing teams fro mother conferences to teams in ours make no sense since they wont play our conference. Against their schedule they have a good defense and if that oline keeps playing how it did against UCF it will become a lot more clear. Their D plays a LOT of snaps because they have had no running game.

 

[LouderVol]

They have more decent players on defense than Travis Hunter. You must not have watched much Colorado games actually. Preston Hodge, Shilo, Silmon-Craig, Mcoy, Bentley and a few young guys also looking ok like Taje McCoy and Samuel Okunlola. They have a decent defense. They play in the new Big 12.. not the old big 12 not the SEC. If you start comparing teams fro that conference to the SEC and the teams that left the Big 12 they all have terrible defenses. Their defense is ranked well ahead of FSU and Clemson lol. Comparing teams fro mother conferences to teams in ours make no sense since they wont play our conference. Against their schedule they have a good defense and if that oline keeps playing how it did against UCF it will become a lot more clear. Their D plays a LOT of snaps because they have had no running game.

the conference stats I listed were for the Big 12. didn't compare them to the SEC or UT except when talking about a specific player's impact on the overall defense, Pearce.

In their conference they are:
1st in TFLs (on defense)
5th in 3rd down defense

9th in scoring defense
10th in sacks (on defense)
11th in INTs
13th in total yards
15th in 4th down defense

so two categories they are good or the best in, and then all the others they are in the bottom half of their conference. I don't call bottom half decent, maybe you have a different standard.

FWIW scoring defense is pretty much the only defensive metric I personally care about. and I think its hilarious they are better than FSU and Clemson. but that doesn't really mean that much.

Hodge, Craig, and McCoy were some of the names i referenced when going to the Top 25 in their conference. I didn't ignore them at all.

 

[pimo1]

the conference stats I listed were for the Big 12. didn't compare them to the SEC or UT except when talking about a specific player's impact on the overall defense, Pearce.

In their conference they are:
1st in TFLs (on defense)
5th in 3rd down defense

9th in scoring defense
10th in sacks (on defense)
11th in INTs
13th in total yards
15th in 4th down defense

so two categories they are good or the best in, and then all the others they are in the bottom half of their conference. I don't call bottom half decent, maybe you have a different standard.

FWIW scoring defense is pretty much the only defensive metric I personally care about. and I think its hilarious they are better than FSU and Clemson. but that doesn't really mean that much.

Hodge, Craig, and McCoy were some of the names i referenced when going to the Top 25 in their conference. I didn't ignore them at all.

Sometimes (especially early in the season) raw stats can be misleading. A lot of people think Tim Banks defense sucked especially last season. I think their numbers are really inflated because of the offensive style. When we are passing a lot and scoring fast or stalling out a lot our defense looks bad because they are playing so many snaps. People would be like UT defense gave up x yards this game instead of looking at how many snaps they played. If one defense plays 30 snaps and gives up 300 yards is it better than one that played 50 snaps and gave up 400? Have you noticed that historically in college and NFL top defenses tend to be on teams that have strong rushing offenses and their offenses tend to be lower scoring?

Have you noticed it's very rare to have teams that gain a lot of yardage on offense and have defenses that hold teams to low yardage also? Teams with really good defenses and ok offenses can look like they are better offensively then they are because they operate on short fields. Same is true with defenses a team with a really good offense can make their defense look bad because they score too fast.

Colorados defense is weird. Lucky for us there is a lot of data. In their 9 losses they won time of possession twice barely and those were both 1 score games. Even in their 8 wins they won time of possession half the time. In those 9 losses they only rushed for over 100 yards twice those were both 1 score games. If colorado can find some balance in their offense and hold on to the ball a bit longer they will win a lot of games. Their defense will look better because they will play less snaps.

As far as rankings I'd posit that Colordao has played a stronger schedule thus far than most of their conference mates. They have the 5th highest SOS and the 4th SOR. Of the teams that have better total defenses than Colorado only 2 played harder schedules. In fact if you sort the charts by SOS and points given up they match almost perfectly inversely with 2 exceptions BYU and Houston they played harder schedule and are still ranked high in defensive stats. Going out on a limb here... if CU keeps winning their place on that shart changes a lot.. especially when they play some of these teams. I think its safe to say that even among the most hardcore of haters its a given that CU is gonna score points they are good for 28 out the gate and have only been held under 14 points twice (Oregon and Nebraska).

This is only MY OPINION and people could rightly call me crazy for saying it at this point but. I think Nebraska is the best team they will face this season. I do not think there is a top 25 worthy team left on their schedule except for Kstate and maybe Utah. The best teams in the Big 12 so far this year are BYU and Iowa State and they are not on the schedule. Luck is pat of being a good team also.

 

[UTFanForLife]

Based on? outside of the FSU job coming open its not likely he will leave for any jobs likely to be out there. Deion Sanders has given 0 indication he is leaving Colorado in fact he has said the opposite. Prime has 0 track record of being dishonest. Like him or not he is brash, thin skinned and a bit on the old-school ratchet side. But he has always been straight forward and honest. A man of his word even when going back on it would probably be in his best interest at times. If people look at who the guy actually is instead of what they want to portray him as they'd see a different guy.

I do not like his personality. I think he is way too old school and his prime persona seems forced at times because it conflicts with the actual man. He is stuck in it. But he has always been a 'godly' man. Even as a player his rap album (released under Hammers label) notice no explicit lyrics sticker? He didn't have 5000 baby mamas. All 5 of his kids were born in wedlock and raised by him. He was always an outspoken Christian. It's not like he changed as he got older. That is the real man and there is a certain level of respect I have for people like that. He pushes his players to behave like men and respect their elders. He is old school as heck. Not the kind of guy i'd hang with but one I'd send my son to play for.

I think people Mix him up with Leon Sandcastle or something and get caught up in soundbites. They don't look into what the man has actually done. I think its really sad. Why can't we look at the situation there as what it is? He has turned around a program that was a dumpsterfire. 4 wins is a huge turnaround from 1. And its not like that 1 win season was an aberration. They have had a winning record once in a full season since 2005 (they also had a 4-2 record in 2020). they have had two 1 win seasons two 2 win seasons two 3 win seasons and five 4 win seasons. We at UT called our 13 year trip to the wastelands bad.. we had a 4 seasons in that period that were 3-4 wins and multiple 8-11 wins seasons also. They had 1. In 18 years they won more than 6 games once.

To put this in perspective I looked through the SEC to find a comparable situation.. there isn't one which explains why its so hard for some of us to wrap our heads around it. Even Vandy has never had a streak of football that bad that long. Post 2005 Colorado has been to 1.5 bowls (covid year). Vandy 6, Kentucky 13 ,Mississippi State 14. Those are the worst SEC teams during that period. Kentucky has a couple 2 win seasons and a 3.. no 1 win season. Vandy has had a few 2 and 3 win seasons and the 0 win covid year...but still not comparable. Miss State has only missed 5 bowls in 18 years and never won less than 3 (twice). What he has done at Colorado is approaching what James Franklin did at Vandy.

Just feel he is going to move on with his sons no longer there. Which I assume they both will be gone. Colorado just doesn’t seem like a place he would stay.

 

[BigALWiLson]

Still 4-1, they can only play who is on their schedule...the last few guys had problems getting 2 wins....Ya'll act like they have played nothing but scrubs. UCF is better than Oklahoma and Baylor and Nebraska are better than NC State. Colorado State is about equal to NC State. N Dakota State is better than UTC and Kent State easily they are 4-1 and ranked number 2 in FCS... so.. ehhhh they have literally not played a 'bad' team. 3 of the teams they played have 1 loss and 2 of those losses came from Colorado. have you even looked at their schedule bro? Their current (games they have played) SoS is 42 ours is 72......lmfao. Thats out of 134 schools so i'd say that a decent schedule. If theirs is weak ours is garbage right?

Lol what ? You can't be serious? NDst may be better than UTC but NCst and OU would beat all those teams you mentioned. I don't care what records are. Talent matters and OU has more than both those schools combined. TCU just lost to Houston who was 1-4. Sure Deon is 4-1. Slow clap

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

I don’t see Deion sticking around at Colorado past this season.

Yup... The only reason he took the job was to get his kid into the NFL.

 

[207 others]

Soooooo crickets from the prime haters club? 14 point underdogs win by 27. Like I said their one problem has been their Oline. Their oline finally plays a decent game they finally show a semblance of a rushing game and bam. Colorado will make a bowl game. UCF was probably one of the best teams on their schedule this year. The Ranked teams left on their schedule are all overrated. They have a bye week to rest and build on this win.

Prime will never be a hall of fame coach but he is what Colorado and college football need right now.

Holy **** they beat ucf i wish tennessee would play them this year and have another 70 0 halftime if Heupel felt like calling a full on air raid game. Is Utah by far their hardest game this year? Or kansas?

 

[207 others]

This guy seriously Jacks off to coloshitto football he has to be a paid shill.