Comparing the UT and UF classes.

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#77
Florida's 85 man roster may be better than our 85 man roster, but by 2011 our starting 22 will be awfully close to Florida's starting 22.
 
#78
#78
These Gator trolls think they are gaining small victories behind enemy lines. But the recruits that are interested in Tennessee know what's going on with our program and want to be a part of the emergent excitement and excellence. Florida has had some good success in the recent past but its as clear now as its ever been Florida has got to go out and recruit and coach just like everyone else. Nothing is taken for granted in the speculation of recruiting but team building is a real phenomenon. And the game is still on for next fall.

GBO!
 
#79
#79
With all that talent you'd think they would have an undefeated season under their belt. Missed it by that much ... again. Chokers
 
#80
#80
When did this thread degenerate into slinging insults back and forth. I thought there was some pretty good discussion here. Jeez.
 
#81
#81
How do you give UF a slight edge on running backs? UF has a MAJOR advantage in this category. Not a position of huge need, but still big advantage UF.
 
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#82
ClearwaterVol said:
How do you give UF a slight edge on running backs? UF has a MAJOR advantage in this category. Not a position of huge need, but still big advantage UF.
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I suppose Fugate is better than we all thought....I don't see it either.
 
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G8R8U2 said:
Let's do that, but without the absurd homer shades on. The numbers are the players' position ranking according to ESPN. If ESPN doesn't have a player listed at the position he'll play at the school, the ranking from Rivals or Scout is substituted (for example, both Elam for UF and M. Dixon for UT are listed as athletes by ESPN; so their ranking for their real positions were taken from Rivals or Scout):

WRs

UT: #7 Ambles, #30 Meline, #33 Milton, (JC) Thompkins,

UF: #2 Dunkley, #12 Patton, #43 Dunbar, Dowling may play WR at UF, but he's the #1 S. Clark isn't a WR; he's a CB/K-P/R.

Slight advantage Florida.



DL

UT: #6 Corey Miller, #9 Brandon Willis, #19 Calvin Smith, #29 Jacques Smith, #32 Copeland, (JC) John Brown (former UF player that didn't see PT in a single game).

UF: #2 Powell, #5 Orr, #5 Easley, #6 Floyd, #19 Ball, #60 Trail

This one is an epic mismatch. Edge to Florida by a wide margin.

OL

UT: #7 James, #92 Pair, #91 Fulton

UF: #2 Silberman

Silberman almost makes this one equal all by himself. Slight edge to UT for sheer numbers.

DBs

UT: #3 A. Dixon, #79 M. Dixon

UF: #1 Dowling, #1 Elam, #2 Dorsey, #3 Shaw, #7 Riggs, #5 Watkins, #44 Haden.

Another complete mismatch. UF may have assembled one of the finest DB classes ever. Huge edge Florida.

LBs

UT: #12 Taylor, #84 Williams

UF: #23 Ajagbe

Advantage UT here... until Hicks announces anyway.

TE

UT: Delvin Jones Nobody is calling Jones a TE, so he has no ranking there. He's considered the #27 DE.

UF: #2 Christian, #12 McFarland,

Huge advantage for UF with 2 bona fide TE's, one of which is the second best in the nation according to ESPN AND Rivals... not to mention Powell, who caught a TD as a TE at the AA game.

FB/RB

UT: #40 Fugate

UF: #3 Brown, Van. Van has no ranking because he's a prep player, but is a 4* RB.

Huge edge to UF. We're not counting recruits from last year's class in an analysis for this class.

QB

UT: #6 Bray, JC Simms. no rating, but he's a 3* QB

UF: #18 Burton

Advantage UT, and boy do they need it.

STs

UT: #15 Palardy

UF: A host of guys who can return the ball.

Not much to see here. One team got a kicker, and the other got several guys who can return punts and kicks.

All in all, UF's class is far and away the much stronger class. With 15 of their 24 commitments on the ESPN150 list, it's currently #1. UT's class, with 7 of 23 commitments on the ESPN150 list, is very good, but not really in the same league. So, saying UT's class has every bit as much talent really isn't even remotely accurate; and we also have room to add more players. And UF players will benefit from NFL coaching as well, since our new DC was the longest tenured coach on the Dolphins staff, and our QB coach and RB coach also have NFL experience.
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ESPN? We talking about ESPN? ESPN?
 
#84
#84
Geez. I disagree now with most of the comparisons that have been created! UT will have a HUGE OL advantage over UF. UF will have a HUGE TE advantage over UT. UF has a huge advantage at DB, and a huge advantage at DL. UT has a MUCH better WR class than UF, and I cannot wait to see the stud DBs at Florida getting PI penalties over and over trying to stop the UT giants.

The big ? is how much will Urban Meyer having sex with a 23 year old hurt this class before NSD?
 
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MikeHamiltonFan said:
Geez. I disagree now with most of the comparisons that have been created! UT will have a HUGE OL advantage over UF. UF will have a HUGE TE advantage over UT. UF has a huge advantage at DB, and a huge advantage at DL. UT has a MUCH better WR class than UF, and I cannot wait to see the stud DBs at Florida getting PI penalties over and over trying to stop the UT giants.

The big ? is how much will Urban Meyer having sex with a 23 year old hurt this class before NSD?
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That's a pretty nasty rumor. Wasn't that posted on like a fan site or something?
 
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#87
ClearwaterVol said:
How do you give UF a slight edge on running backs? UF has a MAJOR advantage in this category. Not a position of huge need, but still big advantage UF.
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thebjd said:
I suppose Fugate is better than we all thought....I don't see it either.
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RB and FB were lumped together. I don't see UF having a sizeable advantage in this area because of Fugate being very underrated and how we will use him. UF has not made the most of their RBs/FBs and that will have to change before I think this will be an area of big impact for them.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
RB and FB were lumped together. I don't see UF having a sizeable advantage in this area because of Fugate being very underrated and how we will use him. UF has not made the most of their RBs/FBs and that will have to change before I think this will be an area of big impact for them.
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I'll never understand this reasoning. UF's RB's put up AWESOME numbers as a unit. They don't have one guy that carries the ball enough to dominate, but combined, that unit averaged 7.88 YPC this year with over 1900 yards and 16 TD's. WTH else do yo want them to do?
 
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#91
G8R8U2 said:
Let's do that, but without the absurd homer shades on. The numbers are the players' position ranking according to ESPN. If ESPN doesn't have a player listed at the position he'll play at the school, the ranking from Rivals or Scout is substituted (for example, both Elam for UF and M. Dixon for UT are listed as athletes by ESPN; so their ranking for their real positions were taken from Rivals or Scout):

WRs

UT: #7 Ambles, #30 Meline, #33 Milton, (JC) Thompkins,

UF: #2 Dunkley, #12 Patton, #43 Dunbar, Dowling may play WR at UF, but he's the #1 S. Clark isn't a WR; he's a CB/K-P/R.

Slight advantage Florida.



DL

UT: #6 Corey Miller, #9 Brandon Willis, #19 Calvin Smith, #29 Jacques Smith, #32 Copeland, (JC) John Brown (former UF player that didn't see PT in a single game).

UF: #2 Powell, #5 Orr, #5 Easley, #6 Floyd, #19 Ball, #60 Trail

This one is an epic mismatch. Edge to Florida by a wide margin.

OL

UT: #7 James, #92 Pair, #91 Fulton

UF: #2 Silberman

Silberman almost makes this one equal all by himself. Slight edge to UT for sheer numbers.

DBs

UT: #3 A. Dixon, #79 M. Dixon

UF: #1 Dowling, #1 Elam, #2 Dorsey, #3 Shaw, #7 Riggs, #5 Watkins, #44 Haden.

Another complete mismatch. UF may have assembled one of the finest DB classes ever. Huge edge Florida.

LBs

UT: #12 Taylor, #84 Williams

UF: #23 Ajagbe

Advantage UT here... until Hicks announces anyway.

TE

UT: Delvin Jones Nobody is calling Jones a TE, so he has no ranking there. He's considered the #27 DE.

UF: #2 Christian, #12 McFarland,

Huge advantage for UF with 2 bona fide TE's, one of which is the second best in the nation according to ESPN AND Rivals... not to mention Powell, who caught a TD as a TE at the AA game.

FB/RB

UT: #40 Fugate

UF: #3 Brown, Van. Van has no ranking because he's a prep player, but is a 4* RB.

Huge edge to UF. We're not counting recruits from last year's class in an analysis for this class.

QB

UT: #6 Bray, JC Simms. no rating, but he's a 3* QB

UF: #18 Burton

Advantage UT, and boy do they need it.

STs

UT: #15 Palardy

UF: A host of guys who can return the ball.

Not much to see here. One team got a kicker, and the other got several guys who can return punts and kicks.

All in all, UF's class is far and away the much stronger class. With 15 of their 24 commitments on the ESPN150 list, it's currently #1. UT's class, with 7 of 23 commitments on the ESPN150 list, is very good, but not really in the same league. So, saying UT's class has every bit as much talent really isn't even remotely accurate; and we also have room to add more players. And UF players will benefit from NFL coaching as well, since our new DC was the longest tenured coach on the Dolphins staff, and our QB coach and RB coach also have NFL experience.
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This is a joke. Try it with Rivals. Its split 4-4...and thats not including our K.

I do think UF has got better talent coming in. This position by position breakdown is very misleading...BUT...if we're all going to play this game, the least you can do is get it right. ESPN pimps out kids who go to certain schools and play in the UA AA game. Fact.

UT takes QB, WR, OL, LB.
UF takes RB, TE, DL, DB.
 
#92
#92
Go ahead and pencil in WR Adrian Coxson.

6'2 (verified 3/09)
194 lbs (verified 3/09)
4.45 - 4.5

ESPN: 4 star #102 overall
Rivals: 4 star #246 overall
Scout: 5 star #48 overall
 
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Tha Don said:
Soft as wet tissue paper...
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Scout and ESPN each compliment him on his strength. But if he does indeed lack it then that's what strength and conditioning coaches are kept around for.

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swampy said:
Scout and ESPN each compliment him on his strength. But if he does indeed lack it then that's what strength and conditioning coaches are kept around for.

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Strength and heart are two completely different things. Last time I checked heart couldn't be worked on. Thus, the comment.
 
#96
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Tha Don said:
Strength and heart are two completely different things. Last time I checked heart couldn't be worked on. Thus, the comment.
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okay then. Coxson is soft as wet tissue paper. I look forward to the adjectives you'll use to describe your secondary if he makes some big plays against them in his career.
 
#97
#97
swampy said:
okay then. Coxson is soft as wet tissue paper. I look forward to the adjectives you'll use to describe your secondary if he makes some big plays against them in his career.
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Remind me again how many passes you guys completed for "BIG plays" on us this year... I'll wait...
 
#98
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Tha Don said:
Remind me again how many passes you guys completed for "BIG plays" on us this year... I'll wait...
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for the most part you guys dropped everyone into coverage, apparently content to get gashed for over 200 yards on the ground and let the clock just run out.
 
#99
#99
swampy said:
for the most part you guys dropped everyone into coverage, apparently content to get gashed for over 200 yards on the ground and let the clock just run out.
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Sooooo... what you're saying is you guys didn't have any "big plays" this year in the passing game?!

Let me get this straight, if you couldn't do it when we were down why in the hell do you think things are going to change when Monte gets his guys in here?

You're delusional at best. Go home.
 
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