Comparing the UT and UF classes.

#102
#102
Tha Don said:
Sooooo... what you're saying is you guys didn't have any "big plays" this year in the passing game?!

Let me get this straight, if you couldn't do it when we were down why in the hell do you think things are going to change when Monte gets his guys in here?

You're delusional at best. Go home.
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i welcome Kiffin to continue using that strategy of dropping a lot of guys deep exposing the defense to the running game and short underneath throws. Florida will just crank out clock killing drive after clock killing drive.
 
#103
#103
swampy said:
i welcome Kiffin to continue using that strategy of dropping a lot of guys deep exposing the defense to the running game and short underneath throws. Florida will just crank out clock killing drive after clock killing drive.
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Don't you Gator trolls have your own message board?
 
#106
#106
swampy said:
meh i just looked at the contrast in impact at the All-Star games and the difference between the classes is starting you in the face.

i got a good laugh at a couple things like TE is a push and UF has a "slight" edge at RB/FB. My tip off that this wasn't the best analysis came from the position group above those two which said UF signed an abundance of LBs last year.

any two team's classes will never line up perfectly by position group to do a 1-to-1 comparison. that's why not looking at average quality of a position group can lead to flawed conclusions. who cares if one team takes a boatload of lower ranked players when the other fill its needs with just one or two higher rated guys. speaking of positions it would also help to use the the ones the players are actually going to be at and not just what Rivals evaluated them at.
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#107
#107
swampy said:
you think Ambles and Green are getting their fifth star and Dominique Easley and Josh Shaw wouldn't?

then there's Jordan Hicks and Seantrel Henderson who Florida's in the final two for each.
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And of course you will land both Hicks and Henderson on top of every other 5 star left on the board regardless of how many scholarships remain--simply because you are Florida. No one EVER said anything about Easley or Shaw not getting additional stars...but I honestly don't think Shaw will--Easley is definitely a possiblilty though. Ambles has a great chance and Green is already top 4 at his position and has done nothing but improve his stock. No one has a clue as to what is going to happen anyway. It is all pure speculation at this point. Why must you find something to argue about in every single post you make on this site? I mean, come on...some fun banter is always fun, but jeez--you take it to a whole new level. Have you ever agreed with anyone your entire life who didn't share you EXACT viewpoint of something?
 
#108
#108
G8R8U2 said:
Let's do that, but without the absurd homer shades on. The numbers are the players' position ranking according to ESPN. If ESPN doesn't have a player listed at the position he'll play at the school, the ranking from Rivals or Scout is substituted (for example, both Elam for UF and M. Dixon for UT are listed as athletes by ESPN; so their ranking for their real positions were taken from Rivals or Scout):

WRs

UT: #7 Ambles, #30 Meline, #33 Milton, (JC) Thompkins,

UF: #2 Dunkley, #12 Patton, #43 Dunbar, Dowling may play WR at UF, but he's the #1 S. Clark isn't a WR; he's a CB/K-P/R.

Slight advantage Florida.



DL

UT: #6 Corey Miller, #9 Brandon Willis, #19 Calvin Smith, #29 Jacques Smith, #32 Copeland, (JC) John Brown (former UF player that didn't see PT in a single game).

UF: #2 Powell, #5 Orr, #5 Easley, #6 Floyd, #19 Ball, #60 Trail

This one is an epic mismatch. Edge to Florida by a wide margin.

OL

UT: #7 James, #92 Pair, #91 Fulton

UF: #2 Silberman

Silberman almost makes this one equal all by himself. Slight edge to UT for sheer numbers.

DBs

UT: #3 A. Dixon, #79 M. Dixon

UF: #1 Dowling, #1 Elam, #2 Dorsey, #3 Shaw, #7 Riggs, #5 Watkins, #44 Haden.

Another complete mismatch. UF may have assembled one of the finest DB classes ever. Huge edge Florida.

LBs

UT: #12 Taylor, #84 Williams

UF: #23 Ajagbe

Advantage UT here... until Hicks announces anyway.

TE

UT: Delvin Jones Nobody is calling Jones a TE, so he has no ranking there. He's considered the #27 DE.

UF: #2 Christian, #12 McFarland,

Huge advantage for UF with 2 bona fide TE's, one of which is the second best in the nation according to ESPN AND Rivals... not to mention Powell, who caught a TD as a TE at the AA game.

FB/RB

UT: #40 Fugate

UF: #3 Brown, Van. Van has no ranking because he's a prep player, but is a 4* RB.

Huge edge to UF. We're not counting recruits from last year's class in an analysis for this class.

QB

UT: #6 Bray, JC Simms. no rating, but he's a 3* QB

UF: #18 Burton

Advantage UT, and boy do they need it.

STs

UT: #15 Palardy

UF: A host of guys who can return the ball.

Not much to see here. One team got a kicker, and the other got several guys who can return punts and kicks.

All in all, UF's class is far and away the much stronger class. With 15 of their 24 commitments on the ESPN150 list, it's currently #1. UT's class, with 7 of 23 commitments on the ESPN150 list, is very good, but not really in the same league. So, saying UT's class has every bit as much talent really isn't even remotely accurate; and we also have room to add more players. And UF players will benefit from NFL coaching as well, since our new DC was the longest tenured coach on the Dolphins staff, and our QB coach and RB coach also have NFL experience.
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OK. Your opinion and you have every right. I agree with some points, but you are way off on a couple...our WR class will be better--just wait and see. Also, DL is closer than you think. Why would anyone want to use ESPN's rankings? They are pretty much garbage. Oh wait, I know...because the way things shake out, pretty much every Florida prospect is rated a little higher on there than on Rivals. Anything can be skewed to favor one side or the other. I could take these same lists and make UT's class look far superior using info that I pick and choose to make my point. Anything like this is pure opinion and he had his UT shades on just like you had your UF shades on when you made yours... :p
 
#109
#109
Looking at the UF/UT game this past year, the real mismatches were the UT WRs going against Florida DBs, the kicking game, and the crying h-back you all had at QB. These needs have been addressed, one way or another. Seeing as how your coach is clearly acting like Golddust, Tebow is history, and your team basically quit on winning a championship...I'd say who the Vols are recruiting is the least of your worries.
 
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