Conference Realignments

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SportsFreak said:
I have to disagree. Under the right administration they have the facilities and the potential to be an SEC football team, their basketball team will immediately become one of the top if not the top team in the conference, there is a huge fan following, and their academics are higher than most SEC schools.

It is a school that has had much success as of late. There are only 2 schools in the entire country that have won a BCS bowl game, went to the mens basketball final four, womens basketball final four, and went to the college world series in the past 7 years. That is Florida and Louisville.
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Cool story bro.

Go stand next to the WVU fans yelling about those sugar and fiesta bowl games against UGA and OU
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Muschump said:
USC, Texas, Oklahoma?

I'm all about conference pride but that beats anything the SEC will be able to do, unless they add FSU.
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(nothing personal to you)

The FSU support to me is always a bit humorous, because if this was just a few years back when they fielding were 6/7 win teams, most of the people clamoring for them wouldn't be there (or would laugh at it)
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TrueOrange said:
(nothing personal to you)

The FSU support to me is always a bit humorous, because if this was just a few years back when they fielding were 6/7 win teams, most of the people clamoring for them wouldn't be there (or would laugh at it)
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Define a "few years back."
 
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Muschump said:
Also, everyone was talking about Texas A&M helping SEC recruiting. Texas and Oklahoma going to Pac12 definitely changes that, IMO.
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Not really, their's is less about helping the pac12 recruit Texas and a bit more about giving Texas and OU more access to LA and Cali
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Muschump said:
Define a "few years back."
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My point being most of this FSU support came because they're supposed to be really good this year

...similar to much of the earlier "tcu is a good add" support was from how good they were the previous year
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Big Slick said:
Brett McMurphy - CBSSports.com

Football writer at CBS Sports. I follow him on Twitter...his peers seem to think pretty highly of him.

I'm sure his WVU statement is dead-on if he's willing to post it publicly.
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SI's Andy staples has written/posted he doesn't think wvu will happen at all either, period

So not just an isolated idea here
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TrueOrange said:
My point being most of this FSU support came because they're supposed to be really good this year
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Maybe. FSU had been pretty damn good for the last 25 years, which is why I'd prefer them over anyone the SEC is currently considering.
 
#311
#311
here is how the BCS conferences will look like after all this settles:

ACC

South

Georgia Tech, Miami, North Carolina, Duke, N.C. State, Wake Forest, Florida State, Clemson

North

Maryland, Virginia, Boston College, Virginia Tech, Pittsburgh, Syracuse, Rutgers, UConn


BIG 12 (Big East will be absorbed)

East

Villanova, Cincinnati, South Florida, Memphis, Central Florida, East Carolina

West

Kansas, Kansas State, Iowa State, Baylor, TCU, Houston


SEC

East

Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, Louisville, South Carolina, Tennessee, Vanderbilt, West Virginia

West

Alabama, Arkansas, Auburn, LSU, Mississippi State, Mississippi, Missouri, Texas A&M


PAC-16

North

Pod 1
Oregon, Oregon State, Washington, Washington State

Pod 2
Stanford, UCLA, Cal, USC

South

Pod 3
Arizona, Arizona State, Colorado, Utah

Pod 4
Texas, Texas Tech, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State


Big 10

Leaders

Minnesota, Michigan, Northwestern, Iowa, Michigan State, Nebraska

Legends

Wisconsin, Purdue, Penn State, Indiana, Illinois, Ohio State


Independents

Notre Dame, Navy, Army, BYU


Yes WVU will eventually settle in the SEC.
 
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Tux said:
Mike Slive is playing his cards right. He is holding his hand close so to be ready to raise the stakes. Contrary to hat some think, the ACC schools are not off limits.

UNC is Mike Slive's "great white whale". If he can land UNC, he can likely land either VT or UVA and then add Florida State. That way he picks up the states of Virginia, North Carolina, and adds a marquee football school with brand power.
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Already been said we're not adding teams from markets we're already in, unless all other desired options fall through
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#314
#314
Muschump said:
Maybe. FSU had been pretty damn good for the last 25 years, which is why I'd prefer them over anyone the SEC is currently considering.
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Right, you care about how much you can brag about how tough the conference is


....even though most of these top schools will just fall to middle of the road once they get involved in this conference
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TrueOrange said:
Right, you care about how much you can brag about how tough the conference is
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Well, yeah. Being the best conference has obvious and big advantages. You don't care who joins?

Edit: To be clear, I'd prefer the SEC stay as is. That's a pipe dream at this point, so I'd rather add the best teams available.
 
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OrangeUTopia said:
You really think UNC would leave Duke?
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Nope. Unc, duke, NC state, even wake all stay tied to the hip. They like the rivalry but more so, the academic image that close relationship gives them is a big deal to all of them
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Muschump said:
Well, yeah. Being the best conference has obvious and big advantages. You don't care who joins?
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But it's just chest pounding, that accomplishes nothing. When FsU becomes a perennial 8 win team at best, that goes away


I get people want to get whichever team they can pound their chest about the hardest (till their ribs break) and brag about...but it does much less than you all think
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#319
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TrueOrange said:
But it's just chest pounding, that accomplishes nothing. When FsU becomes a perennial 8 win team at best, that goes away
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Having the best conference in America accomplishes nothing? How about recruiting, national exposure and $$$?

Think ESPN is going to keep pimping the SEC as hard as they do now when Oklahoma and Texas move to the Pac 10? Think again.

And FSU would do better than you're giving them credit for.
 
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TrueOrange said:
Nope. Unc, duke, NC state, even wake all stay tied to the hip. They like the rivalry but more so, the academic image that close relationship gives them is a big deal to all of them
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I don't think NC State is tied to them.
 
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govols120 said:
If we don't want WVU now, why would we want them later?
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The SEC is just waiting on how things will shake down. IMO, South Florida is a better option in the long run as opposed to WVU. However, USF is largely a big community college and lacks the on campus facilities that other SEC schools possess. From a historical perspective, WVU has a large fanbase and a culture that fits well with the SEC.
 
#323
#323
golfballs03 said:
I don't think NC State is tied to them.
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Research triangle

They are....wake might be the only one i mentioned that's not

A lot of people just seem to assume that since aTm had such a "little brother" relationship with Texas, NC St must obviously have one with duke and UNC too
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#324
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Muschump said:
Having the best conference in America accomplishes nothing? How about recruiting, national exposure and $$$?

Think ESPN is going to keep pimping the SEC as hard as they do now when Oklahoma and Texas move to the Pac 10? Think again.

And FSU would do better than you're giving them credit for.
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They pimp whatever brings in the most viewers the same way as their websites post and follow up on whatever stories get the most clicks

And that's based sooo much more on your region and fans than it is how good your conference is.

Texas and Notre dame could play like sh-t for 2-3 years and they'll still get more general attention and coverage - due to the size of their fanbases - than most (or nearly most) would in this or any similar situation.

It's about the area you cover and the size of your fanbase much more.


And I'm not getting into a long argument with you about this (I'm trying to do homework at the same time as I do this)
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#325
#325
Per Jason Cook VP of Marketing for A&M

"we do not intend to be in the Big 12 after this season"

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