Confident USU Fans (blue cool-aid)

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The good news about all this is that we, the fans are probably overlooking USU more than we should, but the players and staff are not. The staff especially. They know how dangerous of a game this is and will be more than prepared for All-American Heisman Winning Super Bowl MVP Chuckie Keeton.

Likewise I doubt the USU team is as confident as their fans, they are probably well aware it will take their A-game to pull this one out, so they will probably be doing everything in their power to bring their A-game.

Could make for a very interesting 3 quarters of football.
 
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VegasVol said:
Actually, Vegas sees the game closer to their perspective. We are only 6 1/2 point favorites, with the money-line likely to give Utah State a 1-in-3 chance of outright victory. I think Vegas is wrong, but it shows their fans are not alone in their thought process.
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This is really my only point. Vegas is a neutral source, and with an infinite amount of money riding on any given game, they have to do their homework.

That's fine that you think they're wrong, that's the beauty of the whole thing...you get to win money when/if that happens.
 
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volsdeepinva said:
USUFans.com • View topic - I'll say it again

I personally think this will be a good game and our Vols will pull away late. Here are some amusing quotes from the Aggie faithful. Enjoy. Discuss. Flame away. GBO.

"Tennessee is the 4th-5th best opponent on a really bad schedule"
"Tennessee is going to have an eye opening experience"
"The reason I have my money on a laugher is that the Aggies have a Defense on par with anything in the SEC"

"It has been a long time since the Vols had a non-conference schedule like they do this year.There is a fairly moderate chance UT loses 3 of them"
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May I have some MORE please?? The Vols need all the bulletin board material they can get their hands on. Team 118 will be dishing out their response by the fistful!
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Does it really matter how we fans rate a loss? No it doesn't. All I am saying is a loss is a loss. Competitive losses compared to blow out losses is an asinine argument. At the end of the season all is shown are W's and L's.
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UT's close loss to UGA last year had much to do with how they came out against USC. Had they been blown out by UGA, it would have been a similar performance to the Florida game after being toyed with by Oregon. There's more to a game than the scoreboard.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Eric was a consensus 5 star and top 10 recruit out of HS.

Evan and Elliot were very low key and did not camp or participate in a lot of the extra events that the recruiting services use to adjust the player evals.

Evan was a 4-star and Elliot was a 3-star, but I think they both could be underrated.

Evan has outrun Eric in timed 40 yd dash on several occasions.
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I'd add they had a low key recruitment because they were almost universally viewed as UT locks.



As far as Vegas goes...don't forget, they aren't predicting outcomes as much as they're trying to split the money coming in.
 
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A halfway decent O-line and the combo of Lane/Hurd can beat the Aggies 28-14 by hogging time of possession.

I just don't see how this game will ever really be that close. They are bringing an entirely new team to Neyland stadium for what will be many of em's first game. It's going to be loud.

Honestly my concern is that everyone is over hyping USU to the point that once we beat them handily it may over inflate our guys confidence heading into the OK game. Id rather it be close than a blow out so our young guys don't get to full of themselves before they play an actual game (OK).
 
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Also, this is my 75th post since 2010. I wonder if I'll reach 100, and have my black stripe removed before kick off.
 
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jlf2n said:
A halfway decent O-line and the combo of Lane/Hurd can beat the Aggies 28-14 by hogging time of possession.

I just don't see how this game will ever really be that close. They are bringing an entirely new team to Neyland stadium for what will be many of em's first game. It's going to be loud.

Honestly my concern is that everyone is over hyping USU to the point that once we beat them handily it may over inflate our guys confidence heading into the OK game. Id rather it be close than a blow out so our young guys don't get to full of themselves before they play an actual game (OK).
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Arky State may quickly bring our guys back to reality
 
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jlf2n said:
They are bringing an entirely new team to Neyland stadium for what will be many of em's first game.
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This just isn't true at all. 18/22 of our starters are uppperclassmen and 3/4 who aren't were starting last year at the end of the season.
 
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ficklez, would you please quit bringing up so many facts about your team. We just want y'all to be Western Ky or Austin Peay and you just won't cooperate.......I have a feeling that the Aggies won't cooperate on 8/31 either.

I expect Tennessee to win but it should be a very tough game and it wouldn't be a headline upset if the Aggies won.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Arky State may quickly bring our guys back to reality
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This is more reasonable because when we crush USU, these frosh will be drunk on hype, and look ahead to the next big challenge, it will be easy to over look arky state. I was saying this way back when the schedule was released. If you believe in trap games....

Our young men are going to have to stay motivated and in the moment the entire season, there is no break.
 
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ficklez said:
This just isn't true at all. 18/22 of our starters are uppperclassmen and 3/4 who aren't were starting last year at the end of the season.
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Just curious, what was the biggest stadium did you guys play last year?
 
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BigOrangeTrain said:
Does it really matter how we fans rate a loss? No it doesn't. All I am saying is a loss is a loss. Competitive losses compared to blow out losses is an asinine argument. At the end of the season all is shown are W's and L's.
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Absolutely wrong that competitiveness doesn't matter.

Correct that in the end only W/L matter... but when evaluating the quality of your team margins of loss matter... A LOT.
 
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MJA said:
This is really my only point. Vegas is a neutral source, and with an infinite amount of money riding on any given game, they have to do their homework.

That's fine that you think they're wrong, that's the beauty of the whole thing...you get to win money when/if that happens.
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Vegas is NOT a neutral source... and they aren't even in the business of picking winners or being correct. They're in the business of making money by assuring that they have a target number of bettors on each side of a game.

Someone pointed out to you earlier that professional bettors make a lot of money in the 1st 3 weeks of a season because the lines are off. The casual bettor DOES NOT do the research to accurately forecast which teams will be improved and which won't.

You are trying to bring that up as some sort of evidence that your confidence is justified... or the delusions of some on your board. It isn't.
 
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ajvol01 said:
Arky State may quickly bring our guys back to reality
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If Jones takes this team with this talent after two years of developing them... and loses to either of these two teams then please don't try to defend him. UT has a VASTLY more talented team than either USU or Ark St. Moreover, they have a receiving corps that SHOULD be difficult for even the best SEC secondaries to cover... much less a couple of mid-majors.
 
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sjt18, I wondered why you were being surprisingly positive about the Vols in their first two games. Now I know.
 
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Madmartigan said:
How do they look? At least in High school? Highly recruited? I'm not familiar with Eric Berry's story out of HS, but I have to imagine he was a "blue chipper"
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Elliot's offer list included: Arkansas, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Georgia Tech, Kentucky, Louisville, LSU, Miami, Miss State, Mizzou, South Carolina, Wisconsin, and Vandy

Evan's offer list included: Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Georgia, Kentucky, LSU, Miami, Miss State, Mizzou, Ohio State, South Carolina, and Vandy
 
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sjt18 said:
Vegas is NOT a neutral source... and they aren't even in the business of picking winners or being correct. They're in the business of making money by assuring that they have a target number of bettors on each side of a game.

Someone pointed out to you earlier that professional bettors make a lot of money in the 1st 3 weeks of a season because the lines are off. The casual bettor DOES NOT do the research to accurately forecast which teams will be improved and which won't.

You are trying to bring that up as some sort of evidence that your confidence is justified... or the delusions of some on your board. It isn't.
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I would say Vegas is a "neutral" source in that the line will fluctuate based on where the money is. They don't care about UT or USU, they just want even money to capitalize on their 11/10 house advantage. Pay the winners with the losers money and keep the vig. It's free money for them.

While some of us think UT will win rather easily, the people putting their $$$ down say otherwise.
 
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Statistically speaking, per Phil Steele, based on the current point spread (-6.5 UT) Utah St has a 34.1% to win outright.

Edit: just realized the article written on point spreads was published in 2009. However, he used every point spread from 1996 to that time frame so I'd imagine it still holds true or is very close at present.
 
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