Congress Criminal Referral Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Strzok, and Page to DOJ

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Orangeslice13 said:
From the article.


and that it has nothing to do with Donald Trump," Gowdy said in an interview on Fox News.
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So why does Trump continually scream witch hunt and spy gate? He knows it has nothing to do with him so how is it a witch hunt? His own people have stated the FBI did nothing wrong, so why scream "spy gate"? Why would he continue with those lies?
 
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luthervol said:
So why does Trump continually scream witch hunt and spy gate? He knows it has nothing to do with him so how is it a witch hunt? His own people have stated the FBI did nothing wrong, so why scream "spy gate"? Why would he continue with those lies?
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But this guy says otherwise?

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luthervol said:
So why does Trump continually scream witch hunt and spy gate? He knows it has nothing to do with him so how is it a witch hunt? His own people have stated the FBI did nothing wrong, so why scream "spy gate"? Why would he continue with those lies?
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It’s what they all do. Tell big lies often and the reality will happen in the background.
Clinton 2.0


The point is CNN is getting their information from Fox News.
 
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luthervol said:
So why does Trump continually scream witch hunt and spy gate? He knows it has nothing to do with him so how is it a witch hunt? His own people have stated the FBI did nothing wrong, so why scream "spy gate"? Why would he continue with those lies?
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He knows it keeps his gullible base stirred up. Keep telling them what they want to hear over and over enough and they'll believe anything.

Notes the New York Times: “Students of Mr. Trump’s life and communication style argue that the idea of conspiracies is a vital part of his strategy to avoid accountability and punch back at detractors, real or perceived, including the news media.”
True, no doubt. Yet the most clarifying point on this matter comes from Billy Bush, who is, if nothing else, a student of Mr. Trump’s life and communication style. Bush was the fellow chatting with Trump on the infamous 2005 “Access Hollywood” tape in which the mogul bragged about grabbing women by their genitals. Bush was fired from the “Today” show over the incident. It just so happened, however, that Bush had spent a lot of time with Trump back in his years as an entertainment correspondent, and he discussed his experiences on an episode of “Real Time with Bill Maher” in March. Maher noted that Trump had exaggerated the ratings of his program “The Apprentice,” prompting Bush:
Well, he’s been saying No. 1 forever, right. Finally I’d had enough. I said, “Wait, Donald. Hold it. Wait a minute. You haven’t been No. 1 for five years, four years — whatever it is. Not in any category, not in any demo.” He goes, “Well, did you see last Thursday? Last Thursday, 18-49 … last five minutes.” I said, “No. I don’t know that stat.” So he was like, “I told you.” And then later, when the cameras were off … he says, “Billy, look, look, you just tell them and they believe it. That’s it, you just tell them and they believe it. They just do.” And I said, “Ah, okay.”
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That’s called telling the truth about lies.
Being a blabbermouth, Trump apparently cannot stop himself from confiding about his malicious tactics — to media types, of all people. Lesley Stahl of “60 Minutes” recently revealed that Trump had told her about the thinking behind his media-bashing ways. “You know why I do it? I do it to discredit you all and demean you all so when you write negative stories about me, no one will believe it,” Trump told Stahl shortly after his election, as she recalls it.
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Why does Trump lie? Just ask Billy Bush. - The Washington Post
 
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TennTom said:
He knows it keeps his gullible base stirred up. Keep telling them what they want to hear over and over enough and they'll believe anything.



Why does Trump lie? Just ask Billy Bush. - The Washington Post
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I wouldn't know most of what Trump says unless I didn't pop in here to see what you guys are squealing about.

Perhaps it's different for you, but I've got a job and family and friends and hobbies. Trumps tweets have zero effect on my day to day life.
 
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luthervol said:
lol....I just went and got a beer out of the fridge 5 minutes before I saw your post. I would say great minds.....but
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Pfft, we're just on opposite sides of the hedge. We both raised engineers, that's a challenge in and of itself.
 
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luthervol said:
So why does Trump continually scream witch hunt and spy gate? He knows it has nothing to do with him so how is it a witch hunt? His own people have stated the FBI did nothing wrong, so why scream "spy gate"? Why would he continue with those lies?
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:popcorn:

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luthervol said:
When every ranking House republican is publicly stating that the FBI followed correct procedures EXCEPT Nunes, it should tell you something...actually, several things.
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Yah.


That they haven't found anything to blackmail nunes with.

And again, have they actually seen the subpoenaed documents? Last i heard, they had not.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Yah.


That they haven't found anything to blackmail nunes with.

And again, have they actually seen the subpoenaed documents? Last i heard, they had not.
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Ive become increasingly convinced there is a lot of blackmail going on inside the beltway.

Would be willing to wager those Pakistanis were gathering information for DNC with that in mind.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
Yah.


That they haven't found anything to blackmail nunes with.

And again, have they actually seen the subpoenaed documents? Last i heard, they had not.
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Bump. After asking in three threads, I don't think I've seen an answer from the board--whether those claiming Gowdy has debunked claims of spying, or those claiming he has debunked the idea that Trump was under investigation.

Has Gowdy seen the subpoenaed documents in question? (As of yesterday afternoon, even Gowdy's people had verified he hadn't seen the documents.)

Why would Gowdy rush out and claim to debunk the spy claims if he hadn't seen the documents and had no platform to debunk the claims?

Why do so many people in media and citizenry overlook the fact that Gowdy hasn't seen the documents while simultaneously claiming that he's in a position to debunk anything or speak to how well the DoJ did their jobs?
 
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.@RepMarkMeadows on DOJ briefing congressional leaders this week: No documents were shown. We are hopeful this will happen in coming days as long as we protect sources and methods.
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When asked by The Federalist whether Gowdy had seen all the documents Congress requested, a spokeswoman for Gowdy repeatedly declined to say what, if any, subpoenaed records Gowdy had reviewed during the roughly hour-long briefing.
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Sources tell me Gowdy and Nunes did not receive the documents they requested during the noon meeting at DOJ, despite the pleas for openness from Kelly and Flood at the start of the briefing
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So, let me get this straight...

Gowdy shows up to see the subpoenaed documents after he's been demanding them. Something, something, something... during closed door meeting, but no documents are shown. Gowdy leaves meeting claiming that he's seen all he needs to see to know that the DoJ did everything right and are serving the American people.

That's fishy as h**l.
 
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Orange_Crush said:
So, let me get this straight...

Gowdy shows up to see the subpoenaed documents after he's been demanding them. Something, something, something... during closed door meeting, but no documents are shown. Gowdy leaves meeting claiming that he's seen all he needs to see to know that the DoJ did everything right and are serving the American people.

That's fishy as h**l.
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Gowdy has always been a good guy not sure what he's trying to do here
 
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volfanjustin said:
Gowdy has always been a good guy not sure what he's trying to do here
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I've always thought so as well, though I may have been wrong. The fact that I've always seen him as a straight shooter is what makes me suspicious as all get out about this.

Did they not show him the subpoenaed documents, but instead show him something that proves Trump guilty of something? Did they not show him the documents but show leverage against him?

I don't know and won't claim to know, but it's incredibly suspicious, and until anyone knows, ya'll should probably stop crowing what he said one way or another.

All we know is that he didn't see the docs, so he's in no position to debunk anything.
 
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The problem for Trump is that he didn't fire Comey because of the Clinton email investigation. He expressly said that the reason he fired him was because of the Russia investigation. This report does not help Trump out, at all. If anything, it demonstrates an anti-clinton bias at the time.
 
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lawgator1 said:
The problem for Trump is that he didn't fire Comey because of the Clinton email investigation. He expressly said that the reason he fired him was because of the Russia investigation. This report does not help Trump out, at all. If anything, it demonstrates an anti-clinton bias at the time.
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Irrelevant , Trump was well within his rights to fire that pos, Comey has got a helluva lot more to worry about than Trump firing his ass
 
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FLVOL69 said:
Irrelevant , Trump was well within his rights to fire that pos, Comey has got a helluva lot more to worry about than Trump firing his ass
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Completely relevant. It shows Trump's motive was to obstruct.


He's going to be impeached, at best. Charged if there is a God in Heaven.
 
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