Congress Criminal Referral Clinton, Comey, McCabe, Lynch, Strzok, and Page to DOJ

[ajvol01]

He doesn't know what state he's in half the time, he likes kids rubbing his leg hair and sitting in his lap. Let's see how that plays out with straight, normal Americans.

 

[newyorkvol]

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I.E. Multiple judgement failures and failures to verify and submit information. Okey doke mick. You are dense.

It’s sounds like they’re saying they made the right decision to renew the FISA based on the information they had, but they didn’t have all the information. So they were willfully ignorant, which made it ok.

 

[Mick]

How am I not giving equal respect to your opinion? Should I have posted some glib meme, instead? The best one was already taken.

I don’t agree that there was no abuse of FISA in this case. The abuses didn’t negate the basis for the warrant or the investigation (and I’ve said for over a year that the QAnonsense wouldn’t be a silver bullet that killed this investigation and that anybody trying to spin that as a possible result wasn’t credible). But when there are numerous omissions and misstatements in the application, that’s still an abuse of the process, IMO.

What improvement would you make to correct the "self-righteous justification of impropriety that often goes on among law enforcement community members all the time"? I think that's a fair accurate assessment. Accountability would be a good start. Is there part of the process itself you would like to address besides a more narrowly defined criteria one must meet and scope?

I thought the big lebowski would lighten the mood. It might have had the opposite effect.

 

[Mick]

He is the Democrats own witness.

Glad you agree there was nothing of substance to your post.

 

[RockyTop85]

What improvement would you make to correct the "self-righteous justification of impropriety that often goes on among law enforcement community members all the time"? I think that's a fair accurate assessment. Accountability would be a good start. Is there part of the process itself you would like to address besides a more narrowly defined criteria one must meet and scope?

I thought the big lebowski would lighten the mood. It might have had the opposite effect.

My bad, I wasn’t trying a jerk before that, either.

I agree. I think accountability and law enforcement reform receives top billing.* I do think a higher standard for surveillance that involves Americans would also be a valid undercard.

* - I think this is more of a cultural reform that also needs supporting legislation.

 

[Mick]

My bad, I wasn’t trying a jerk before that, either.

I agree. I think accountability and law enforcement reform receives top billing.* I do think a higher standard for surveillance that involves Americans would also be a valid undercard.

* - I think this is more of a cultural reform that also needs supporting legislation.

Contrary to the public spin, that was the purpose of this investigation all along.

 

[ajvol01]

Glad you agree there was nothing of substance to your post.

You’re killing it Mick. Even arguing with RockyTop

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Thats complete BS.

"The application received the necessary Department approvals and certifications as required by law. As we fully descri be in Chapter Five, this application received more attention and scrutiny than a typical FISA application in terms of the additional layers of review"

That is what I just said. Can you read or interpret anything? The IG report states there were multiple instances where information was not verified.

Your blip of wording there says absolutely nothing in terms of the quality of the information that was relied upon, which was my point.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

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I.E. Multiple judgement failures and failures to verify and submit information. Okey doke mick. You are dense.

Thank you. Seriously, he / she can’t read or just doesn’t try.

 

[Mick]

You’re killing it Mick. Even arguing with RockyTop

If you spent more time talking to someone and not about them, you too would be able to communicate with Rocky.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

 

[ajvol01]

Woods Review / Procedures

Where have we heard of this before?

 

[VolnJC]

 

[BowlBrother85]

#1 is just an outright lie. The IG report specifically states that investigators were not motivated by any bias against Trump.

 

[FallCreekVols]

#1 is just an outright lie. The IG report specifically states that investigators were not motivated by any bias against Trump.

The report states no bias because, when asked, those under investigation denied being biased. Nothing more. Evidence indicates otherwise.

 

[volfanjustin]

The report states no bias because, when asked, those under investigation denied being biased. Nothing more. Evidence indicates otherwise.

Spot on my friend, were they going to say "oh yes we were biased"?

 

[BowlBrother85]

The report states no bias because, when asked, those under investigation denied being biased. Nothing more. Evidence indicates otherwise.

How would you know why the report states what it does? Did you help to compile it? There is no evidence cited which confirms a bias on the behalf of the investigators. To say otherwise, is being dishonest about what the report actually says. Conservatives don't get to rewrite the report to serve their own agenda, just because it doesn't say what you want it to.

 

[VolnJC]

 

[37L1]

How would you know why the report states what it does? Did you help to compile it? There is no evidence cited which confirms a bias on the behalf of the investigators. To say otherwise, is being dishonest about what the report actually says. Conservatives don't get to rewrite the report to serve their own agenda, just because it doesn't say what you want it to.

This sounds like the Mueller report only this time the sides are the reverse in their arguments.

Wheee!

 

[37L1]

Oh, he's done it now!

 

[BowlBrother85]

This sounds like the Mueller report only this time the sides are the reverse in their arguments.

Wheee!

I will admit that there are similarities. The IG report didn't say what Republicans/Conservatives hoped that it would and they are trying to rewrite it to suit their agenda. Unless you can prove that Horowitz is a political partisan, this is over.

 

[BowlBrother85]

Will Christopher Wray and Michael Horowitz agree with that assessment from Barr? It doesn't sound like it... and of those three, Barr is coming across as the most politically partisan official right now.

 

[BigOrangeD]

Will Christopher Wray and Michael Horowitz agree with that assessment from Barr? It doesn't sound like it... and of those three, Barr is coming across as the most politically partisan official right now.

Barr has subpoena power. Don't forget that.

 

[Fun coupon VOL]

Will Christopher Wray and Michael Horowitz agree with that assessment from Barr? It doesn't sound like it... and of those three, Barr is coming across as the most politically partisan official right now.

Why would they? CYA.

 

[Mick]

How would you know why the report states what it does? Did you help to compile it? There is no evidence cited which confirms a bias on the behalf of the investigators. To say otherwise, is being dishonest about what the report actually says. Conservatives don't get to rewrite the report to serve their own agenda, just because it doesn't say what you want it to.

Conservatives wrote all the reports, all the redaction's and all the rewrites. But it's not over until they can bastardize the facts by keeping it ongoing to promote the same narrative.