jmacvols1
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The judge admitted he was wrong in trying to include cases that past the limitation. Again, the has been no proof that Trump committed a crime or there was in victims of deals Trump made with banks. This is all fabricated by a corrupt judge. There are many big time liberal developers in NY, why aren't they being charged with inflating value of property? (27:02 of the Tucker Carlson videio I posted earlier)Lol. The corrupt, disbarred, to be criminally charged judge was right? And Trump was ok with THAT part, right?
Normally yes...in NY thier laws are set so there technically doesn't have to be a victim of the fraud... its written as such.As pointed out already, there is no valid case for there is no fraud, no victims of any fraud perpetrated by Trump. Legal deals were made, loans paid back.....banks happy, Trump happy but corrupt Dem judge unhappy.
The judge admitted he was wrong in trying to include cases that past the limitation. Again, the has been no proof that Trump committed a crime or there was in victims of deals Trump made with banks. This is all fabricated by a corrupt judge. There are many big time liberal developers in NY, why aren't they being charged with inflating value of property? (27:02 of the Tucker Carlson videio I posted earlier)
But there was no fraud that took place, hence no victims of fraud. The banks made loans to Trump based on the bank's own estimation (not the judge's personal estimation) of the value of collateral and the bank got paid the loan back with interest. No crime, no fraud...nothing. Is the judge going to go through all the loans of left wing developers in NY to make sure they never overvalued property based on the judges's on personal estimation of what he thinks property should be valued at??Normally yes...in NY thier laws are set so there technically doesn't have to be a victim of the fraud... its written as such.
But there was no fraud that took place, hence no victims of fraud. The banks made loans to Trump based on the bank's own estimation (not the judge's personal estimation) of the value of collateral and the bank got paid the loan back with interest. No crime, no fraud...nothing. Is the judge going to go through all the loans of left wing developers in NY to make sure they never overvalued property based on the judges's on personal estimation of what he thinks property should be valued at??
If you want to see what real bank fraud is about then look up the bank fraud committed by Jane Sanders, Bernie Sanders wife, and the loan she secured for the university that she was President of and how the loan went bad and the university shut down under great debt. Bernie used his position as Senator to pressure the bank to make the loan.
The unraveling of Jane Sanders' Burlington College legacy
Jane O'Meara Sanders, wife of Sen. Bernie Sanders, led Burlington College through a time of ambitious expansion.www.burlingtonfreepress.com
Ummm, it's not the judge's estimation. It's the estimation of the independent appraisers that Trump hired, ignored their values, and marked up 300-500%.
Read the ruling.....
Good questions...evidently a Trump hating judge is suing Trump and there are no victims of fraud...banks made the loans knowing the value of the collateral and got their money back with interest.If this sham is a civil lawsuit, can someone tell me who is suing? Who is the victim and when do they testify?
Judge at Trump civil fraud trial implores media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18M
A judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate in a $250 million civil fraud case implored the media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.nypost.com
"The Manhattan judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate at his civil fraud trial Monday stood by the $18 million valuation of the former president’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago estate — despite real estate experts blasting the estimate as “utterly delusional.”"
You call them "independent" appraisers when they sound like paid-off left wing, Trump hating appraisers.
The Post articles goes on to say:
"Justice Arthur Engoron again rejected Trump’s claims that Mar-a-Lago is worth $1 billion in favor of the much lower valuation issued by local Florida officials.
However, Engoron implored the media to stop reporting that he’d been the one to value the golf club and resort at $18 million — the low end of a determination made by the Palm Beach assessor that has left many real estate industry insiders perplexed.
One prominent Palm Beach real estate broker labeled the valuation “utterly delusional” to The Post."
“These banks made money. They were not defrauded,” Habba (Trump's attorney) told the court. “That is not fraud. That is real estate.”
I am going by what the article from the Post says:You (or whoever thinks for you) have a reading comprehension issue. I said independent appraisers that Trump hired, which is clearly not a government appraiser. Read the ruling. Trump hired and commissioned numerous appraisers on his property (i.e. independent ones) and he marked their values up 500%
I agree with you about MarALago. A Property tax valuation and independent appraisal valustion are apples to oranges....
Bernie's wife Jane Sanders lied to the bank and got away with it, so why can't you?I'm about to fill put FAFSA. Is it OK for me to lie about my net worth to get better terms? Is it OK to lie even I pay all the loans off?
Judge at Trump civil fraud trial implores media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18M
A judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate in a $250 million civil fraud case implored the media to stop saying he valued Mar-a-Lago at $18 million.nypost.com
"The Manhattan judge deciding Donald Trump’s fate at his civil fraud trial Monday stood by the $18 million valuation of the former president’s sprawling Mar-a-Lago estate — despite real estate experts blasting the estimate as “utterly delusional.”"
You call them "independent" appraisers when they sound like paid-off left wing, Trump hating appraisers.
The Post articles goes on to say:
"Justice Arthur Engoron again rejected Trump’s claims that Mar-a-Lago is worth $1 billion in favor of the much lower valuation issued by local Florida officials.
However, Engoron implored the media to stop reporting that he’d been the one to value the golf club and resort at $18 million — the low end of a determination made by the Palm Beach assessor that has left many real estate industry insiders perplexed.
One prominent Palm Beach real estate broker labeled the valuation “utterly delusional” to The Post."
“These banks made money. They were not defrauded,” Habba (Trump's attorney) told the court. “That is not fraud. That is real estate.”
Edit:
I did a quick search, it appears Dorothy Jacks, the property assessor of Palm Beach county, is a Democrat:
Elected Officials
Federal State County U.S. EXECUTIVE BRANCH PRESIDENTJoseph Biden (D)www.pbcdemocraticparty.org