COVID Relief Package

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LouderVol said:
Yes Trumps fault. No matter how often he says "i dont take responsibility at all".

That was his 4th year in office, he knew who he was dealing with. Hes not responsible for the crisis itself, he is responsible for his own reactions to it, and as head of the federal government their response to it. Cuomo can mess up the worst and Trump still have plenty of blame.
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man that's really sad
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
U.S. Cuts $231 Million Deal To Provide 15-Minute COVID-19 At-Home Tests
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Because of the expected $30 cost and the need for a smartphone to receive results, this particular test is unlikely to be the game-changer several public health experts have been calling for — a test that families could use routinely at home before leaving the house, to prevent silent spread.

The Ellume contract is "a step in the right direction towards identifying fast tools that can actually help serve to identify and slow spread," says Dr. Michael Mina, a Harvard epidemiologist who has been a vocal advocate for widespread rapid tests. What's needed, he says, are "tests that are highly accessible, abundant, can be used frequently, provide immediately actionable results and are $5 [or less] per test. A test that does not meet each of these [criteria] will not perform well as a public health test to fight this pandemic."
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A small step in the right direction but more is needed. There are already tests like this available in the US (Abbott makes them I think) but they are categorized as medical devices. That should be removed and these should be available everywhere
 
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burntorangeVOLffle said:
I don’t hang on his every word. When it was first being thrown around I understood it to be an add on to the 600 already passed. When the headlines first started popping up that Dems were getting “blasted” for dropping it I realized they screwed up the messaging. Whether that was on purpose or not for the GA runoff is definitely worth criticism.
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You and the other dim ilk hung on another guy’s every word and even added s**t to it.
 
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lawgator1 said:
Donald Trump built a national debt so big (even before the pandemic) that it'll weigh down the economy for years


Trump ranks third, behind Bush and Lincoln but Lincoln had the Civil War and Bush had two foreign wars after 9/11. So for various reasons yay GOP. You've got modern times debt increase all locked up.
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I guess you forgot about that little 2 week shutdown we had last year to flatten the curve... And many would argue that Lincoln and Bush played a role in getting us in to those wars unnecessarily. Trump had no control over the CV.
 
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Sea Ray said:
What kind of test costs $5? This one costs $100

https://www.everlywell.com/products/covid-19-test/?g_network=g&g_adid=494873706199&g_keyword=home covid testing kit&g_adtype=search&g_campaign=CAC+-+COVID-19+Test+Home+Collection+Kit+-+Target+ROAS+Bidding&g_keywordid=kwd-931013134009&g_acctid=652-099-8287&g_campaignid=12199387356&g_adgroupid=120024815751&utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&utm_campaign=covid&gclid=Cj0KCQiA34OBBhCcARIsAG32uvMem9JDfs3ae8YW9PP85DgC6cX4O3KzX_TSE1ROg8a2WY6iEAHdzgcaAmCdEALw_wcB
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The one purchased by the us govt

The Binaxnow COVID-19 Ag Card rapid antigen test first received EUA approval in August for point-of-care use. The White House agreed to pay Abbott $750 million for 150 million units of the $5 test.
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Abbott’s Binaxnow COVID-19 rapid test authorized for home use
 
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Wireless1 said:
While my wife lost her part time job - she's not going back to work, and I was furloughed for 2 weeks we didn't miss the income. I understand that 1/2 the lower income job losses still haven't come back, but I see several local companies advertising for $15 per hour jobs along with trade apprentices.
Shouldn't these packages be addressing people getting back to work rather than just creating more national debt?
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I think those are two different things. There are certainly some people who have lost so much income due to the virus that they need the $ to pay basic bills and avoid a spiral into a very bad situation. As well, if they spend the money then that puts it back into the economy and the economy does better overall due to demand for goods and services.

I think retraining is a longer term goal. It makes a lot of sense, and not just because of the pandemic. And I would tend to agree that, over time, it will reap a better financial benefit for the recipients and their families because its long term.

But I do think that is something to be done later this year when things have stabilized a bit more. Otherwise the recoveyr is just too uneven and you aren;t focusing the dollars for retraining where they can really help the most.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
I guess you forgot about that little 2 week shutdown we had last year to flatten the curve... And many would argue that Lincoln and Bush played a role in getting us in to those wars unnecessarily. Trump had no control over the CV.
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Who could ever forget that? Poor Pence. Up there holding up his little sign and dutifully throwing himself on the grenade for Trump. Ha! How'd that turn out for him?

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Sea Ray said:
If you want the results it'll cost $25
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That's an example but there are a dozen more out there. I posted a podcast a few weeks ago where they went over the options. The fact these aren't in every Walgreens or CVS in the country is either as ridiculously massive failure or is done on purpose
 
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lawgator1 said:
I think those are two different things. There are certainly some people who have lost so much income due to the virus that they need the $ to pay basic bills and avoid a spiral into a very bad situation. As well, if they spend the money then that puts it back into the economy and the economy does better overall due to demand for goods and services.

I think retraining is a longer term goal. It makes a lot of sense, and not just because of the pandemic. And I would tend to agree that, over time, it will reap a better financial benefit for the recipients and their families because its long term.

But I do think that is something to be done later this year when things have stabilized a bit more. Otherwise the recoveyr is just too uneven and you aren;t focusing the dollars for retraining where they can really help the most.
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Amazingly I agree with a lot of what you say.
We've had a safety net for years....a welfare system that could have easily had a few regulations waived as we did with the unemployment laws.
The package was big enough to not send you and I the money but escrow it for future "jobs" programs.
 
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