Criticism is fine, but support your Vols

#76
#76
Special Ed said:
I think it's important to note that the "Bring Back Bruce" drumbeat began the moment Hamilton let him go, mostly because fans realized that the coach who took UT to the greatest heights ever in basketball was going to be hard, if not impossible, to replace. So, Cuonzo was not even part of the equation when folks began feeling the void left by Bruce Pearl.
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Bullseye, Ed. You nailed it dead center.
 
#78
#78
UT fan's understand the point being made, but the players and future recruits should be happy to know they have a fan base who cares so much about their team that we put forth the effort to criticize what we see, while still attending the games. This team had under achieved per many many many people's expectations, not just the fan's so obviously there's going to be criticism. Bruce did not leave a bare cupboard, Cuonzo recruited relatively well, and I don't recall a single recruit ever saying "I'm not going to UT because of possible NCAA sanctions". That being said, in every aspect of society if you have capable employees and they're not performing to expectations (yes at least making the NCAA tourney in a pretty weak SEC) then who gets the blame? The manager of those employees and the employees! That's life! Go Vols!!!
 
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#79
bleedingTNorange said:
Freak has asked it not be mentioned. There's a few posters on here that know about it and can verify it. As I said I gave it up because I didn't have the time to dedicate to it.
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But Rivals, Scout, 247, Volquest and other sites are mentioned everyday on here.

Curious.
 
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#80
#80
knowthevols said:
Try posting something negative about Martin and BTO wants a link to prove it. He has been caught stretching the truth many times and we all know to what extent he will go to promote the religious worship of his savior Martin.
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I've been caught stretching the truth?

Example?
 
#82
#82
CCM is a bad in game coach. Nice guy but if it is the NIT again, he gone. Do not think Pearl will be back. Will affect recruiting but will have to do something.
 
#84
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bleedingTNorange said:
I've been caught stretching the truth?

Example?
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That link you said you posted the first year you were on this board at the end of the season where you said an at large team had made the tourney with a upper 70's rpi.

I think one may have made it last year, but not before.

Still waiting.
 
#85
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knowthevols said:
That link you said you posted the first year you were on this board at the end of the season where you said an at large team had made the tourney with a upper 70's rpi.

I think one may have made it last year, but not before.

Still waiting.
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I was wrong, that wasn't "stretching the truth" lol. I admitted afterwards when someone posted the info I was wrong, the highest RPI to get in was a 67, not 70, my apologies.
 
#87
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Spartacavolus said:
The site doesn't exist anymore. He isn't a part of the media. He is a mid 20's man saying he is in a group text with highschool d1 prospects.

Older guys have always tried to be a part of the lives of younger athletes. Bto isn't the first or last and probably means no harm, but its not right. If that's my son and under my roof, its not happening. Especially on the stage they are on. They just had a UT fan post supposed texts on a national board. We aren't supposed to know who the 3 are? Highschoolers not yet on campus calling out fans, via text, thru Bto, to VN. Comical.



Honestly, for several reasons, I hope Bto is making it all up.
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So a Media credential is required to exchange text with recruits.
Never heard that one.
Usually respect your arguments Sparty. This one. Nah.
 
#88
#88
calban said:
So a Media credential is required to exchange text with recruits.
Never heard that one.
Usually respect your arguments Sparty. This one. Nah.
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he's texting with teenagers under the guise of his "recruiting site", which is nonexistent. He's a grown man. Not in college. Has a job. Probably mid 20's. Doesn't know them, or their families. Just latched on like a crazed fan.
It's weird and shouldn't happen. Period. How many other 20 somethings on here text kids? I'd be flat out embarrassed.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
he's texting with teenagers under the guise of his "recruiting site", which is nonexistent. He's a grown man. Not in college. Has a job. Probably mid 20's. Doesn't know them, or their families. Just latched on like a crazed fan.
It's weird and shouldn't happen. Period. How many other 20 somethings on here text kids? I'd be flat out embarrassed.
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The site wasn't non existent when I interviewed all 4 of these kids. The site was still functioning and the interviews making their way to the site to be posted for others to read.

Since then, as I have mentioned, I quit doing it because I didn't have the time to put forth for it to really be as successful as I had hoped. As a result of stopping I obviously quit interviewing recruits, coaches etc, there's no need. However, that doesn't mean that the contact I had with player X all of a sudden becomes non existent does it?

These players still have my number and there's nothing I can do about that. If one of them texts me what am I supposed to say Sparty, oh don't text me, this isn't an official interview? Am I not allowed to respond to him? Is it not possible that there was somewhat of a trust or friendship built with said player? Does all interaction have to be 100% interview official business?

Austin Price sits there and converses with 50 underclassmen high school kids a day, responding to their tweets about what they're having for dinner. Does that make him some creep? Not IMO. He knows the kids and feels comfortable enough to be able to engage in regular conversation with them, is that a crime? Does it bother you?
 
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Spartacavolus said:
he's texting with teenagers under the guise of his "recruiting site", which is nonexistent. He's a grown man. Not in college. Has a job. Probably mid 20's. Doesn't know them, or their families. Just latched on like a crazed fan.
It's weird and shouldn't happen. Period. How many other 20 somethings on here text kids? I'd be flat out embarrassed.
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So, if I'd kept his site going, you'd be alright with it?
Young man with aspirations of a dream job in the recruiting media.
what's weird about that?
 
#91
#91
Probably would have been wiser choice not post the texts considering that they can be viewed as being critical of the fan base. Some "fans" may now have a negative opinion of these recruits.

And I do not think that CCM or most other coaches in the college arena would appreciate their recruits/commits being critical of fans in any situation and voicing those criticisms - these same coaches would prob also say that the posting of such texts should not occur. Just doesn't do anyone any good - only negative can come from it.
 
#92
#92
I don't really give a $#!+ what players and/or recruits think about Martin. Just because I want a new (or rather old) coach doesn't mean I don't support the players.

I just want a coach who can help them win games instead of perpetuating mediocrity.
 
#93
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calban said:
So, if I'd kept his site going, you'd be alright with it?
Young man with aspirations of a dream job in the recruiting media.
what's weird about that?
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If its his job, of course not. But its not. You guys can rationalize it all you want. Like I said, I don't think Bto means harm. He just needs to cease communication. Parents, coaches and UT officials dont like it. Trust me. Plus, then you blast their texts on a national board? The whole thing needs squashed.
As players, we were told to stay away from the type. As coaches, we warned players and parents. Its not good or healthy and should stop.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
If its his job, of course not. But its not. You guys can rationalize it all you want. Like I said, I don't think Bto means harm. He just needs to cease communication. Parents, coaches and UT officials dont like it. Trust me. Plus, then you blast their texts on a national board? The whole thing needs squashed.
As players, we were told to stay away from the type. As coaches, we warned players and parents. Its not good or healthy and should stop.
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You avoided my post, why?

So do you have an issue with any recruiting analyst partaking in conversation with a recruit that has nothing to do with his recruitment? Such as the examples I listed with Austin Price of VQ?
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
You avoided my post, why?

So do you have an issue with any recruiting analyst partaking in conversation with a recruit that has nothing to do with his recruitment? Such as the examples I listed with Austin Price of VQ?
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I didn't read your post, but you aren't Austin Price man. Nor are you with VQ. You are a single, adult male on a group text with teenage boys. Nothing else needs to be said. Rationalizing it doesn't help either.
 
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Spartacavolus said:
I didn't read your post, but you aren't Austin Price man. Nor are you with VQ. You are a single, adult male on a group text with teenage boys. Nothing else needs to be said. Rationalizing it doesn't help either.
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Not sure what my relationship status, or gender has to do with this, but no I'm not interested in you or your wife Sparty...sorry.

Still didn't answer my question, guess that's answer enough. Thanks!
 
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#100
#100
bowlinggreenvol said:
If you have their name in there it wouldn't show their number. Nice try though.
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Guess what, try this. Text yourself, save your number as Michael Jordan. Now go back and delete the double texts to look like an actually conversation...

Guess what, you just had a conversation with MJ.

Point being, a screen shot showing their name proves nothing, and it's not about proving it to me. I don't really care whether you believe me or not, there's a reason I knew Cofer was committing before anyone else, same for Larry Austin. And I also know exactly where we stand with Peyton Allen, so believe me or not, doesn't matter to me.
 
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