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#127
Tebow is clearly a great college player, maybe the best I've seen since Herschel Walker, but I will stay this: the constant preening and playing to the crowd that he does is some Grade A douchebaggery. You keep hearing how about how humble he's supposed to be, but then you see him prancing around like Mark Gastineau after he picks up a first down. Uh huh.
 
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#128
#128
The Dude said:
Furthermore, Tommy Frazier was one of the best college QBs of the '90s. Under what you're saying Rasputin, he should have had a better pro career than someone like Drew Brees.
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And using your logic, Erik Ainge is about as far from a glorified FB as you could get, so we may as well make space for a bust of him in Canton, Ohio...
 
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...and if Ainge is a Hall of Famer, what does that make Crompton? Inventor of the forward pass?
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Tebow is clearly a great college player, maybe the best I've seen since Herschel Walker, but I will stay this: the constant preening and playing to the crowd that he does is some Grade A douchbaggery. You keep hearing how about how humble he's supposed to be, but then you see him prancing around like Mark Gastineau after he picks up a first down. Uh huh.
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As far as the NC game, he only did it once I recall. It was an attempt to fire up the crowd and his teammates. I think it would be safe to say it worked. I do not like a grandstander myself, but I have no problem with this.
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Tebow is clearly a great college player, maybe the best I've seen since Herschel Walker, but I will stay this: the constant preening and playing to the crowd that he does is some Grade A douchebaggery. You keep hearing how about how humble he's supposed to be, but then you see him prancing around like Mark Gastineau after he picks up a first down. Uh huh.
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It's a game... and these are 18-22 year olds playing the game. Lighten up. If they want to dance after a scor or pump up the crowd, I don't have a problem with it. If it were Obama doing the cabbage patch after the State of the Union Address, then I might have an issue.
 
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thagodfather said:
why does everyone go to some third world country to be a missionary? i'd say that they have more than enough work to do here.
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Amen to that, but it is a sad truth that those at the lower strata of income here are above the average person in many third world countries. But charity should start at home, just do not limit it to only there.
 
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blupotato said:
that is not what i was getting at, but i will try to further explain. gerald is not all that and we all know this, but in high school he was the superman of chattanooga football and the entire state of tn for that matter. he was elevated above the rest of the team. so in comparison i was saying that tebow has been elevated not only above his team but far beyond most everybody else in all of college football. i am not a superstar football player and never will be and i moved on to bigger and better things with no regrets. you sir do not know me from adam and i do not know you from adam. so to say that i am upset about him being at his level of success and i not, is not something that you can judge. in no way am i trying to belittle his missionary work, but i have had to do that work in the place that i live, and cannot afford the time or the money to go in a foreign place somewhere around the world to do such work. i have a home and a family to pay for and do not have a family who has direct access to allow me to go circumsize children in a foreign land. so i would appreciate it if you got off my back and were not the judge of me or what i have done in the past in terms of civil service. i applaud tebow for what he does, but i don't like the fact that people prop him up over others who may do things under the radar.

so go pick on someone else.
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If you are saying you are doing local missionary work, I applaud you. I do some, and wish I could travel to do more, but family obligations have also kept me from my desire to do so. However, I hold no grudge with those who can and do. Publicity is a necessary way to gain awareness to causes and thus obtain funding to make missionary work possible. Publicity just for ones own PR is despicable.

My admiration for TT is primarly based on his on the field work, the other is just an added bonus. Are you not judging him as you say I am you? If I have misinterpreted, I am sorry.
 
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#136
He is a class act....I do love that he will get fired up when he is playing. Probably one of the most competitive people I have ever seen
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Some of you Ainge appologists and nut huggers were saying that Erik Ainge was a lock for the 3rd round (or sooner) and Tebow is 10X's the QB that guy was. If Ainge can be a projected 3rd rounder, there is no way a reasonable person can't say that a guy of Tebow's talent and character can't be better than that. Al of this talk about Tebow being a FB or TE or MLB in the NFL will be rendered to whispers by a few nutjobs. Heck, There is no way that if you get a guy like Tebow couldn't do just as well as Roethlisburger or Delhomme or anybody in the NFC North...
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this post is garbage
 
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Vercingetorix said:
Tebow is clearly a great college player, maybe the best I've seen since Herschel Walker, but I will stay this: the constant preening and playing to the crowd that he does is some Grade A douchebaggery. You keep hearing how about how humble he's supposed to be, but then you see him prancing around like Mark Gastineau after he picks up a first down. Uh huh.
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:lolabove:
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
It's a game... and these are 18-22 year olds playing the game. Lighten up. If they want to dance after a scor or pump up the crowd, I don't have a problem with it. If it were Obama doing the cabbage patch after the State of the Union Address, then I might have an issue.
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I don't have a problem with him doing it. I have a problem with the people acting like he is blessing the everyone in attendance with his very prescence because of how humble and saintly he is. My issue is not with Tebow other than the fact that I don't think he will transition to being an NFL QB.
 
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gainesvol82 said:
I don't have a problem with him doing it. I have a problem with the people acting like he is blessing the everyone in attendance with his very prescence because of how humble and saintly he is. My issue is not with Tebow other than the fact that I don't think he will transition to being an NFL QB.
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Why not... the same NFL scouts that are ripping Tebow are some of the sameone's projecting Matthew Stafford as a top 5 pick in this years draft. That makes no sense...
 
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My problem is that part of the Tebow choir boy act is pure act. I like him as a football player, but the missionary stuff and idiotic sounding interviews just slay me. The dancing and fist pumping over first downs I actually like because it fires up their jort wearers which, in turn, fires up the team.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
My problem is that part of the Tebow choir boy act is pure act. I like him as a football player, but the missionary stuff and idiotic sounding interviews just slay me. The dancing and fist pumping over first downs I actually like because it fires up their jort wearers which, in turn, fires up the team.
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There is no evidence of Tebow being a hypocrite. If Tebow was out here passed out drunk on Saturday nights or getting into run ins with the law, then I might agree. I mean, give the guy some credit... don't hate. I mean, if it really is an act, why would he go out of his way to go to these countries on missionary trips? I mean, most college players are on campus working out and throwing up the weights and getting into mischief. It just seems to be a lot of trouble for a young man to go through just to get some feel good PR...
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
There is no evidence of Tebow being a hypocrite. If Tebow was out here passed out drunk on Saturday nights or getting into run ins with the law, then I might agree. I mean, give the guy some credit... don't hate. I mean, if it really is an act, why would he go out of his way to go to these countries on missionary trips? I mean, most college players are on campus working out and throwing up the weights and getting into mischief. It just seems to be a lot of trouble for a young man to go through just to get some feel good PR...
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Cocky punk on the field doesn't mesh with the choir boy.
 
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Rasputin_Vol said:
Why not... the same NFL scouts that are ripping Tebow are some of the sameone's projecting Matthew Stafford as a top 5 pick in this years draft. That makes no sense...
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Neither Staffor or Tebow will be NFL QBs for long. Stafford reminds me a little of Crompton but obviously better. Good physical skills but not enough upstairs to compete for an entire game without making crucial mistakes and that will only get worse in the NFL. Ever since I saw Tebow in HS here in FL I have said that he wouldn't be a pro QB. There's a host of reasons why I feel this way but the simplest is that he just doesn't do the things well that a pro QB has to do. His will and determination can't complete a 20 yard out route against NFL DBs for him and unless he can spread the field then his legs won't be much of a threat. I see him as a short-yardage situation backup QB for a few years before he retires to missionary work. He will be similar to Brady Quinn in that he will probably be more popular and have more endorsement deals than whoever the starting QB is.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
My problem is that part of the Tebow choir boy act is pure act. I like him as a football player, but the missionary stuff and idiotic sounding interviews just slay me. The dancing and fist pumping over first downs I actually like because it fires up their jort wearers which, in turn, fires up the team.
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He does sound very simple when he speaks.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
I'm dead serious. The two do not mesh.
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I understand and somewhat agree with what you're saying BPV, but he's not the one that paints himself as the anointed one. The media does that. He knows he's not perfect and he's just himself. He's a good kid who has fun on the football field, even if sometimes he takes it too far.
 
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