Cuanzo has amazed me

#76
#76
forget it. Just a couple more years until you have a new basketball team to cheer for. Enjoy the wait
 
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#77
BasketvolsFan said:
Guess you weren't one of the posters who had us losing to Duke and Memphis by 30 points. Actually, we are 3-3 as all games count. I absolutely believe this team has exceeded expectations so far and will continue to exceed expectations going into this season. If this team is the 11th place team in the SEC, the SEC is much, much better this year.
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I think we exceeded expectations until last night. We took a step back.

This team is probably in between what we saw in Maui and what we saw last night. I thought we looked lethargic last night. Oakland isn't a bad team, but they aren't a great one either.

Our perimeter defense and defense overall left a lot to be desired.
 
#78
#78
utvolpj said:
forget it. Just a couple more years until you have a new basketball team to cheer for. Enjoy the wait
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So I take it you have lost the extremely long list of basketball accomplishment before Bruce Pearl. You seemed so sure before.
 
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#80
rich4pres said:
We won before? When? 1977? Or are you counting 1967 when we last won an outright SEC title before Bruce. Or are you counting the Jerry Green years where he squandered Kevin O'Neil players and wet the bed in the tourney. Where is this great UT basketball success you are talking about?
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Based on your criteria, there is none and that includes the Almighty Bruce years. If you don't want to support the program and only want to support Bruce, start making your grocery purchases to help the great Bruce and just forget about UT basketball.
 
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#81
BasketvolsFan said:
Based on your criteria, there is none and that includes the Almighty Bruce years. If you don't want to support the program and only want to support Bruce, start making your grocery purchases to help the great Bruce and just forget about UT basketball.
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No problem. As soon as you show me the success we had before Bruce Pearl. Apparently, you haven't been a fan as long as I have or you would know there wasn't any success. People assuming that somehow we would be successful when we had never been successful before are just fooling themselves. Keep pumping that sunshine.
 
#82
#82
rich4pres said:
So I take it you have lost the extremely long list of basketball accomplishment before Bruce Pearl. You seemed so sure before.
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Yep, you win

Univ of Bruce > Univ of TN

we should all long for the days of the 30sec flex - 4 sec scramble - 30ft jumpshot offense
 
#83
#83
I'm impressed with the lack of panic that Cuanzo instills in this team. Bruce's teams would have quit 10 times out of 10 against Oakland.
 
#84
#84
rich4pres said:
No problem. As soon as you show me the success we had before Bruce Pearl. Apparently, you haven't been a fan as long as I have or you would know there wasn't any success. People assuming that somehow we would be successful when we had never been successful before are just fooling themselves. Keep pumping that sunshine.
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I've probably followed UT basketball much longer than you have and I'm very aware of success prior to Pearl and have no doubt there will be success after Pearl. If you call Pearl making the program a negative topic of discussion for the entire past basketball season, putting the program in danger of serious sanctions from the NCAA, setting recruiting back for at least a couple of years, and giving us that great banner of success based on being completely unethical, as great success for the program, then I really don't want any future Pearl-like success.
 
#85
#85
BasketvolsFan said:
I've probably followed UT basketball much longer than you have and I'm very aware of success prior to Pearl and have no doubt there will be success after Pearl. If you call Pearl making the program a negative topic of discussion for the entire past basketball season, putting the program in danger of serious sanctions from the NCAA, setting recruiting back for at least a couple of years, and giving us that great banner of success based on being completely unethical, as great success for the program, then I really don't want any future Pearl-like success.
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Like I said, show me this success before Bruce Pearl. You keep talking about it but where is it? Seriously, where was this mythical success you are talking about. BTW, were you a fan of Ray Mears. The reason I ask is because people are so quick to talk about Bruce's lack of ethics but nobody brings up Ray Mears transgressions. You do realize Ernie and Bernie were getting paid right. But I am sure you love Ray Mears and hate that evil Bruce Pearl.
 
#86
#86
BasketvolsFan said:
I've probably followed UT basketball much longer than you have and I'm very aware of success prior to Pearl and have no doubt there will be success after Pearl. If you call Pearl making the program a negative topic of discussion for the entire past basketball season, putting the program in danger of serious sanctions from the NCAA, setting recruiting back for at least a couple of years, and giving us that great banner of success based on being completely unethical, as great success for the program, then I really don't want any future Pearl-like success.
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Any time you have any success there will always be some negative publicity. Uconn got it. Alabama has got it in football, etc. If you don't care if we win or lose why
even keep up with the team?
 
#87
#87
Well, one thing is certain, Ray Mears never had the program under NCAA investigation and never had to drop out of coaching due to a show cause by the NCAA. That alone provided more success than Pearl provided. If you look at the history of SEC basketball, UT is the second most winning program behind UK. If you don't recognize the success under Mears, Devoe, and the pathetic Jerry Green, there is nothing anyone could say to make you accept reality.
 
#88
#88
BasketvolsFan said:
Well, one thing is certain, Ray Mears never had the program under NCAA investigation and never had to drop out of coaching due to a show cause by the NCAA. That alone provided more success than Pearl provided. If you look at the history of SEC basketball, UT is the second most winning program behind UK. If you don't recognize the success under Mears, Devoe, and the pathetic Jerry Green, there is nothing anyone could say to make you accept reality.
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You just used "the pathetic Jerry Green" as an example of success. Think about it. You used the word pathetic to describe one of the coaches that I am supposed to accept as an example of success. That should explain my point right there. Thank you.
 
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#89
rich4pres said:
You just used "the pathetic Jerry Green" as an example of success. Think about it. You used the word pathetic to describe one of the coaches that I am supposed to accept as an example of success. That should explain my point right there. Thank you.
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Good point.
 
#90
#90
knowthevols said:
Any time you have any success there will always be some negative publicity. Uconn got it. Alabama has got it in football, etc. If you don't care if we win or lose why
even keep up with the team?
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I probably care if we win or lose as much as anyone. However, I can not support a coach who has zero ethics and put our program in a terrible situation with the NCAA. I care enough to support our current coaches and hope that support will result in a program in football and basketball that we can all be proud of. I simply don't see how constantly being negative with the "we will never win again' constant criticism is going to improve our won/lost record. As far as Martin is concerned, he hasn't even had an opportunity to show his ability prior to being attacked by every Pearl lover on this site. That is really disgusting from true fans of the program.
 
#91
#91
utvolpj said:
Yep, you win

Univ of Bruce > Univ of TN

we should all long for the days of the 30sec flex - 4 sec scramble - 30ft jumpshot offense
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Is it about what it looks like or the results? Frankly, I like winning games.
 
#92
#92
knowthevols said:
You and the other hatophiles were sure quick to condemn for something that did not in the long run hurt
our program with penalties. What about all of the posts
you made about getting a first rate coach with our facilities and tradition. Wish in one hand and crap in the other and see which one fills up first.
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You honestly think the incident had no effects on the program "in the long run"?
 
#95
#95
UT IE 95 said:
Is it about what it looks like or the results? Frankly, I like winning games.
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And the results are right now that Martin lost to two top 10 teams and a team that beat Pearl on our home floor last year. There's absolutely no reason to panic; the only ones that are doing that are the University of Pearl supporters. I know it; they know it, and everyone else that reads them knows it because they won't accept anyone at Tennessee not named Bruce Pearl.
 
#96
#96
LawVol13 said:
And the results are right now that Martin lost to two top 10 teams and a team that beat Pearl on our home floor last year. There's absolutely no reason to panic; the only ones that are doing that are the University of Pearl supporters. I know it; they know it, and everyone else that reads them knows it because they won't accept anyone at Tennessee not named Bruce Pearl.
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I don't think there sould be any panic. We're traditional middlers in the college basketball world. We couldn't handle success as a program, so now things are settling back into their natural order.
 
#97
#97
rich4pres said:
You just used "the pathetic Jerry Green" as an example of success. Think about it. You used the word pathetic to describe one of the coaches that I am supposed to accept as an example of success. That should explain my point right there. Thank you.
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Well, I'm not surprised you missed the point. Green was pathetic, but still had unprecedented basketball success during his tenure. We were two minutes away from an elite 8 when he coached before blowing the game with N. Carolina. Even a pathetic overall coach had basically the same success as your hero. It sort of shuts down the theory you have that no one can have success here except your hero.
 
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#99
UT IE 95 said:
I don't think there sould be any panic. We're traditional middlers in the college basketball world. We couldn't handle success as a program, so now things are settling back into their natural order.
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Exactly who was it that couldn't handle success as a program?
 
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