Cuonzo receives raise

#51
#51
The guy is a scrub coach and a scrub recruiter. Whatever it takes to get him out of town without having to hear him put his foot in his mouth again is fine with me.
 
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IMO the people that are complaining about this raise are the same ones that disappear when the team is winning and doing well.

So I guess my point is these folks were likely going to find something to complain about anyway. Whether it is recruiting, the teams style of play, or Cuonzo's demeamor on the sideline. Its 50k guys, Smokey's vet bill is more than that...
 
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50k is nothing in athletics/coaching. I wouldn't really care about this unless it was 150k+.
 
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GoobieVol said:
IMO the people that are complaining about this raise are the same ones that disappear when the team is winning and doing well.

So I guess my point is these folks were likely going to find something to complain about anyway. Whether it is recruiting, the teams style of play, or Cuonzo's demeamor on the sideline. Its 50k guys, Smokey's vet bill is more than that...
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I agree. Cuonzo could have offered to take a $50k reduction, and the usual suspects would show up here to (b)itch that it wasn't enough. Some people just want to flame and complain without much basis for either. And misery loves company.
 
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GoobieVol said:
IMO the people that are complaining about this raise are the same ones that disappear when the team is winning and doing well.

So I guess my point is these folks were likely going to find something to complain about anyway. Whether it is recruiting, the teams style of play, or Cuonzo's demeamor on the sideline. Its 50k guys, Smokey's vet bill is more than that...
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The thing is it sends the message that it is ok to miss the tourney 2 years in a row. In fact we will reward you if you do. He took over a team that had went to 6 straight tourneys and has yet to make one.
 
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GoobieVol said:
IMO the people that are complaining about this raise are the same ones that disappear when the team is winning and doing well.

So I guess my point is these folks were likely going to find something to complain about anyway. Whether it is recruiting, the teams style of play, or Cuonzo's demeamor on the sideline. Its 50k guys, Smokey's vet bill is more than that...
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The fact that the team has played well in an 8-10 game spurt each of the last 2 years doesn't change the end result, which was abject failure.
 
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GiveHimSixGoVols said:
The thing is it sends the message that it is ok to miss the tourney 2 years in a row. In fact we will reward you if you do. He took over a team that had went to 6 straight tourneys and has yet to make one.
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That's all irrelevant. From that team, he lost his top two scorers, and top two incoming recruits. He then had to implement a completely different system and philosophy to a group of jilted players recruited to play a fast-paced game.

If you didn't expect some growing pains, you had your head in the sand. Just because Pearl was able to perform a quick turnaround to success doesn't mean it's the ruke of thumb.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That's all irrelevant. From that team, he lost his top two scorers, and top two incoming recruits. He then had to implement a completely different system and philosophy to a group of jilted players recruited to play a fast-paced game.

If you didn't expect some growing pains, you had your head in the sand. Just because Pearl was able to perform a quick turnaround to success doesn't mean it's the ruke of thumb.
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The fact that most of the fans still don't feel good about him going into year 3 shows what type of job he has done.
 
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BOP said:
The fact that the team has played well in an 8-10 game spurt each of the last 2 years doesn't change the end result, which was abject failure.
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Abject failure is something your post history is riddled with.

Where were you during those 8-10 game spurts?
 
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GiveHimSixGoVols said:
The thing is it sends the message that it is ok to miss the tourney 2 years in a row. In fact we will reward you if you do. He took over a team that had went to 6 straight tourneys and has yet to make one.
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No, that's what an extension or 150k+ would say. 50k basically says, "Please keep trying, we think you can do better." It's getting a $380/year bonus at work when you make 10k/year and have an unstable job, but on a bigger number scale.

And for the record, I don't think he has really done anything deserving a raise, but this barely counts as a raise to me.
 
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GoobieVol said:
IMO the people that are complaining about this raise are the same ones that disappear when the team is winning and doing well.

So I guess my point is these folks were likely going to find something to complain about anyway. Whether it is recruiting, the teams style of play, or Cuonzo's demeamor on the sideline. Its 50k guys, Smokey's vet bill is more than that...
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IMO, most folks applauding the raise are ones that will blindly defend our coaches no matter what, even if they are not succeeding. They fall across all sports at UT. See Dooley fans. This is a business, where employees are compensated and rewarded for success. He has not shown success warranting a raise at this time. I agree he should definitely be given at least another season, but do not agree with a raise.
 
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cncchris33 said:
That's all irrelevant. From that team, he lost his top two scorers, and top two incoming recruits. He then had to implement a completely different system and philosophy to a group of jilted players recruited to play a fast-paced game.

If you didn't expect some growing pains, you had your head in the sand. Just because Pearl was able to perform a quick turnaround to success doesn't mean it's the ruke of thumb.
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Why bother dude? Lol

I agree with you though.
 
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GiveHimSixGoVols said:
The thing is it sends the message that it is ok to miss the tourney 2 years in a row. In fact we will reward you if you do. He took over a team that had went to 6 straight tourneys and has yet to make one.
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It is frustrating as a fan when a team doesn't do as well as we want them to, or think they should. But lets look at the shape of our progam before BP. And lets try to keep our standards closer to that era rather than the last 6 years.

Now we shouldn;t give CCM 10 years to make it happen again here, but 2 years(and 1 of those without your best player) and he finished well in the conference and nearly made the dance. This year is a make or break IMO. But the raise is more about the show(to recruits) than it is the dow. u know.. :)
 
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cncchris33 said:
Abject failure is something your post history is riddled with.

Where were you during those 8-10 game spurts?
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Understanding that the team still needed a strong finish to make the tournament. Something this jackass obviously didn't understand although it was clear as day. Also understanding that the lows still outweighed the highs which is why we still had work to do.
 
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BOP said:
The fact that most of the fans still don't feel good about him going into year 3 shows what type of job he has done.
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If by, "most fans", you mean the typical, casual, Johnny-come-lately's that show up from time to time, much like yourself, yet disappear when their agendas are blown to hell, then I guess you have a point. Not a good point, but a point all the same.
 
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BOP said:
Understanding that the team still needed a strong finish to make the tournament. Something this jackass obviously didn't understand although it was clear as day. Also understanding that the lows still outweighed the highs which is why we still had work to do.
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You didn;t answer his qquestion though. Where were you when UT won 8 of 10 last year, marching with your fire Quonzo sign?
 
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cncchris33 said:
If by, "most fans", you mean the typical, casual, Johnny-come-lately's that show up from time to time, much like yourself, yet disappear when their agendas are blown to hell, then I guess you have a point. Not a good point, but a point all the same.
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My agenda is for UT to have a good basketball program, yes, this man has blown it away.
 
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SDV said:
IMO, most folks applauding the raise are ones that will blindly defend our coaches no matter what, even if they are not succeeding. They fall across all sports at UT. See Dooley fans. This is a business, where employees are compensated and rewarded for success. He has not shown success warranting a raise at this time. I agree he should definitely be given at least another season, but do not agree with a raise.
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If you knew what you think you know, you wouldn't be saying that people are blindly defending Martin. When we lost those 4 games in a row last season, pretty much everyone, including myself, had lost virtually all optimism.

But yeah, you keep thinking that a 50k raise means that the AD supports a mediocre winning percentage.
 
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GoobieVol said:
You didn;t answer his qquestion though. Where were you when UT won 8 of 10 last year, marching with your fire Quonzo sign?
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WTF are you talking about? Are you retarded. It is like when a RB fumbles the ball and then get's all excited when he picks up 10 yards the next time he touches is it. I'm not going to give him a standing ovation.
 
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BOP said:
My agenda is for UT to have a good basketball program, yes, this man has blown it away.
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:banghead2: :popcorn:

I don't know which one wetter discribes how I feel after I read one of your brilliant posts. lol
 
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I guarantee BOP will dissapear throughout this season if we are ranked and headed to the dance...he'll appear only after losses.

It's the same thing UTIE95 used to do, and it's no coincidence that when UTIE95 dissapeared this guy showed up a week later...it's the same poster.
 
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bleedingTNorange said:
I guarantee BOP will dissapear throughout this season if we are ranked and headed to the dance...he'll appear only after losses.

It's the same thing UTIE95 used to do, and it's no coincidence that when UTIE95 dissapeared this guy showed up a week later...it's the same poster.
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When we get to the point in a season, when the worst case scenario is still a good result, I will be satisfied. Clearly we have never been to that point.
 
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SDV said:
IMO, most folks applauding the raise are ones that will blindly defend our coaches no matter what, even if they are not succeeding.
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There lies the rub though. Who is applauding it? No one is suggesting he deserved it, and more. The reasonable portion of us just aren't up in arms over him receiving a good-faith raise that is equal to .0005% of UT's total athletic budget.
 
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BOP said:
When we get to the point in a season, when the worst case scenario is still a good result, I will be satisfied. Clearly we have never been to that point.
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HAHAHAHA yea ok, I'm gonna have l save this post.

So come February when we are a lock for the tourney I expect some quality posts from you BOP.
 
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