Cuonzo releases Landry

I don't agree with not letting him out but that's not the same level of what Zo did

What pearl did to Dotson was 100x worse than the Martin/Landry saga. Pearl told Dotson he was going to be given a scholarship, let Dotson go all spring thinking that, Dotson came to campus and registered for classes, returned home AND ONE DAY BEFORE CLASSES BEGUN Pearl called Dotson and told him not to come.

The kicker on that situation is that the reason pearl parted with Dotson was because he thought he was going to get Dameon Mason, and so he had to make room for mason.
 
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Lmao ok. You'll find a loophole in anything I'm convinced. Here's the thing though, Pearl STRUNG him along for a long time, Dotson was packing his bags getting ready to head to UT when Pearl told him...what a classy move. This of course was AFTER Pearl said he would honor all scholarships awarded by Peterson.

Players leave from the rosters, recruit decide not to honor their commitment whenever their is a coaching change...

What's funny is you are trying to find other unethical behavior to show that Martin is no different from them lol
 
It's a lot worse. This wasn't a signee, this was a kid who paid his way for a year, based on a lie Pearl told his family several times.

Both would be unethical....are we going really going to argue on the degree of unethical behavior.....coming from Basilio I have a hard time believing it as fact
 
Players leave from the rosters, recruit decide not to honor their commitment whenever their is a coaching change...

What's funny is you are trying to find other unethical behavior to show that Martin is no different from them lol

No what's funny is I'm pointing this out because you have made it clear your love for pearl. Yet Martin does something nowhere near as bad and he's lost "all your respect". A bit hypocritical is all, just pointing that out.
 
Players leave from the rosters, recruit decide not to honor their commitment whenever their is a coaching change...

I hope this wasn't meant to justify what Pearl did to West/Dotson, because it doesn't make any sense whatsoever.

Players absolutely should be allowed to leave when their coach does.
 
Both would be unethical....are we going really going to argue on the degree of unethical behavior.....coming from Basilio I have a hard time believing it as fact

"Murder and neglecting to tip the bartender are both bad things, but we can't decide which one's worse. They're both just bad."

Okay. For me, it's not hard to see the difference. I think some of the Pearl fans on here would defend him for just about anything he did.

It has nothing to do with Basilio. This came straight from West Sr.'s mouth.
 
It's a lot worse. This wasn't a signee, this was a kid who paid his way for a year, based on a lie Pearl told his family several times.

What pearl did to Dotson was 100x worse than the Martin/Landry saga. Pearl told Dotson he was going to be given a scholarship, let Dotson go all spring thinking that, Dotson came to campus and registered for classes, returned home AND ONE DAY BEFORE CLASSES BEGUN Pearl called Dotson and told him not to come.

The kicker on that situation is that the reason pearl parted with Dotson was because he thought he was going to get Dameon Mason, and so he had to make room for mason.

Link?
 
Good article I think many on here need to read:


UT's Pearl sending mixed messages
Commentary by Willy Daunic
June 08, 2005


When Bruce Pearl took over the men’s basketball program at Tennessee in March, he hoped to make an immediate impact by securing two blue chip recruits from the Midstate. Tyler Smith of Giles County had to be re-recruited after signing a letter of intent with the Vols under Buzz Peterson. Pearl’s goal was to couple that with the signing of Jamont Gordon, a former Glencliff star who finished the season at Oak Hill Academy in Virginia.

Two months later, Pearl has made big waves in recruiting, but not the ones that anyone expected. Neither Smith nor Gordon will play in Knoxville this fall, and the ensuing scramble for players has prompted the Vols coach to resort to tactics that are legal, but in many minds unethical.

The series of moves, which have left Smith sitting out, Matthew Dotson of Hickman County released, and Ryan Childress coming over from Wisconsin-Milwaukee, have many UT fans perplexed.

It started with the failed attempt to build a relationship with Smith, who led Giles County to a state championship as a sophomore. Pearl eventually kept Smith on scholarship despite Smith’s desire to be released, and as a result Smith will sit out two years while Pearl eats an unused scholarship.

The message sent: You sign with a school and not a coach.

The Vol coach then turned around and signed Childress after he was released from his scholarship at Pearl’s previous school, Wisconsin-Milwaukee. Pearl had recruited Childress in the same manor that Peterson had Smith.

The message sent: You sign with a coach and not a school.

With that backdrop, Pearl hatched a heartless plan to rid himself of Dotson, whom he felt could not play at the SEC level. After stating that he would honor all the scholarships awarded by Peterson, Pearl sent several obvious signals that he had no desire to see Dotson in Orange. He had virtually no contact with Dotson until late May, when Dotson visited campus to make preparations to enter summer school. He registered for classes, played pickup with the players and met the coaches.

Less than a week later, the Hickman County star was told via cell phone by Pearl not to attend summer school, one day before class was to start. All of the other incoming Vol freshmen are enrolled in the current session.

Pearl proceeded to tell Dotson that he would never play in front of Childress, who has played exactly the same amount of college games as Dotson — zero. Dotson could no longer ignore the signs, and was left with no choice but to ask for his release.

His release coincided with the news that Dameon Mason, a transfer from Marquette who averaged 11.9 points per game last year, made an unofficial visit to Knoxville last weekend. So to clear a scholarship for the possibility of Mason, Pearl orchestrated the release of a player who desperately wanted to be a Vol instead of releasing Smith, who has no desire to play for him.

The message sent: We will do what we must do to win, no matter what.


All of Pearl’s actions are legal. He can look everyone in the eye and say he honored the scholarship offer. But there was no honor in what he did to Dotson

In the small community of Centerville, Dotson is the pride of the town. It was a huge story there that a kid from the local high school, ranked third in his class, would be playing for the Vols next year. One day before he was to embark on his college journey, the town hero had to tell everyone that the coach didn’t want him. Dotson is left to scramble to find a place to play, and he will. Hopefully the experience will make him stronger.

As for Pearl, maybe he is right that Dotson simply was not good enough to play at UT. We will never know, but there are tons of examples of lower level recruits who blossom into excellent college players.

The big picture is the first impression Pearl has left on the coaching fraternity, both high school and college, and the UT fans. After what has transpired, can anyone blame Tyler Smith now for saying he felt uncomfortable with the new coaching staff back in early April?
 
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If it were another school that accepted a players commitment in 2011, then in 2013 releases that player you would probably have a different opinion.
Personally I think that is a terrible way to treat the kid. It could limit where this kid has a place to play. If Martin was not sure if he wanted this payer or not he should not have take his commitment. The kid thought he had a college hone for over a year. That is not right and show lack of judgment on CCM.
I agree, it's not a good practice.
The problem is the stupidity of the NCAA who places more emphasis on where you eat a burger than on how you treat kids when it comes to scholarships.
 

The West story is literally everywhere. Plenty of people know about it; I was just giving you a link to the actual interview.

What is it you're asking for? Do you think Pearl made a statement to the effect of, "I told Daniel West there would be a scholarship but I lied?"
 
"Murder and neglecting to tip the bartender are both bad things, but we can't decide which one's worse. They're both just bad."

Okay. For me, it's not hard to see the difference. I think some of the Pearl fans on here would defend him for just about anything he did.

It has nothing to do with Basilio. This came straight from West Sr.'s mouth.

I'm not a Pearl fan, I'm a Tennessee fan....it may be true but u did say the interview was on Basilio....I have a hard time believing it was really west's dad on that show

It doesn't matter bc no I don't agree with that and would be saying the same things if pearl was here.
 
Over signing is a dick move on the coaches part not mater who is doing it. Martin, Pearl, Saban, Crean. It's all garbage and if the NCAA wasn't so incompetent, they would have stopped this long ago.
 
it may be true but u did say the interview was on Basilio....I have a hard time believing it was really west's dad on that show

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I don't really think there's that much wrong with telling a kid that he's not going to play much if he comes here. (Though I do have a problem with the timing.) But my point is that if you're going to jump on Martin about how this is so ridiculously unethical, you better not turn around and talk about how much you like Pearl. That's about as hypocritical as it gets.
 
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I agree, it's not a good practice.
The problem is the stupidity of the NCAA who places more emphasis on where you eat a burger than on how you treat kids when it comes to scholarships.

You are 100% correct.
 
I don't really think there's that much wrong with telling a kid that he's not going to play much if he comes here. (Though I do have a problem with the timing.) But my point is that if you're going to jump on Martin about how this is so ridiculously unethical, you better not turn around and talk about how much you like Pearl. That's about as hypocritical as it gets.

I do like pearl but will blast him when he pulls BS moves like this
 
Where was the article from.....that guy sounds pissed off.....if that's the way it went down I would feel the exact same way about pearl

Google the situation, it's reported by many that that's how it went down. That article I believe was written by a Nashville paper.
 
Can give me another link than one from a Vandy homer whose bias shows in the article

Wow volbeast, c'mon dude.

Here's another...
It remains to be seen whether this was good news for UT though. Three-star signee Matthew Dotson was packing his bags for UT when he got a sad call from the now nearly-infamous Bruce Pearl. "[Pearl] told me to hold off on coming. He said to wait it out until we could decide what was best for myself and for the University of Tennessee. He told me I was coming in behind Ryan Childress and that we played the same position. He kept telling me he didn't want to put me in a position where I couldn't succeed." The saddest part of this situation has been pointed out time and time again: Tyler Smith can't go to college this year because Pearl will not release him from his committment to Buzz Peterson's UT, while Pearl won't genuinely honor UT's commitment to Matthew Dotson. Dotson makes his own case well: "I've had my heart set on UT ever since I signed. They never used the word release, or said anything about pulling my scholorship, butI came to the decision that if I wasn't there to play, then I didn't want to be there...


Give it up man, Pearl pulled a d!ck move and he's A ok in your book. Martin does this with Landry and he's lost all your respect.
 
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Wow volbeast, c'mon dude.

It is biased....the guy sounds pissed off while writing the article....the only thing I could find Is Pearl's version which I don't necessarily believe......if that's the way it happened then yes I would blast pearl as well, it's very unethical to use these kids in this manner......that doesn't mean what Martin did was close to ethical.

Last I checked Pearl doesn't coach here so it really makes no sense to discuss or compare what he did versus Martin
 
It is biased....the guy sounds pissed off while writing the article....the only thing I could find Is Pearl's version which I don't necessarily believe......if that's the way it happened then yes I would blast pearl as well, it's very unethical to use these kids in this manner......that doesn't mean what Martin did was close to ethical.

Last I checked Pearl doesn't coach here so it really makes no sense to discuss or compare what he did versus Martin

Once again that's not my point. My point was that you're blasting Martin for this yet express your love for pearl constantly...it's a bit hypocritical.

And btw...I posted a 2nd article for you as well.
 
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I don't see why so many are defending pearl or martin here really? This is something ALL COACHES (in all sports in fact) who are great do at some time or another.
 

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