Cuonzo releases Landry

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Coaching staff made a huge mistake signing him and this certainly want help recruiting having to let a player signed for a year go. I hope this is the last time we see this happen at Tennessee. I know it has happened at almost every school but when you offer a player and especially when you let him sign you should fulfill your commitment to him and we didn't do that for Travon.
 
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kamoshika said:
Interesting post by rwbb4 on another board:

Here's exactly what happened regarding Travon. Tennessee called him last Monday, two days before this years signing period and "encouraged" him to seek other schools. Leaving the kid high and dry. Then to add insult to injury they gave his coaches a list of 5-6 schools they thought could use him and Travon's coaches called them and had no interest from any of them. Cuonzo sent them on a wild goose chase to make himself feel better. On another thread it has been suggested that he helped Travon find New Mexico State. That is a lie too. Coach Fulford saw their coaches at an AAU tourney and talked to them and they said they needed a point guard and another Huntington Prep grad, Sim Bhullar, is already there. Travon committed to them yesterday. UT coaches have known for a year and they tell the kid two days before the signing day? C'mon Tennessee! Aren't you better than that? Ill say this...the way they have handled this thing has been horrible and reflects poorly for the entire program. Hey coach Martin, if you are reading this or hear about it you better get a Huntington Prep schedule for next year and circle all of their away games so you can watch Jalen Lindsey. I doubt you will be allowed in their gym ever. Rocky Top that!
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We all know this is exactly how it had go do down. Some just cannot handle the truth about Martin.
 
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HardKnoxVol said:
It's part of the job. The kid will get picked up by a smaller team, no big deal. There's only one place for people who try to be perfect and do every single thing morally, and that's the unemployment line. Martin has to do what's best for the team. Once again, he didn't help himself by averaging 3 points a game
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So with Martin morals don't matter? Go back and read some of your post when you were wanting Pearl fired.
 
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knowthevols said:
So with Martin morals don't matter? Go back and read some of your post when you were wanting Pearl fired.
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Go back and read some of your posts when you were saying that Martin needs to step up his game, quit being such an stand up guy, and become more cutthroat so he can compete. Or better yet, how he never should've been hired because he's not a winner, and now that he's doing things that almost every coach you'd want have done, and will help him win, you hate him for it.
 
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MothershipChip said:
I am starting to wonder if the majority of the people commenting on this story just have a predisposed dislike for Coach Martin. Most people have been freaking out about Landry's numbers and saying we should not take the kid. Now, literally a day later, people are acting like releasing the kid is the most Unethical vile thing that a coach could do.

Landry signed as a Junior when he had better numbers at a lower tier high school. He got around the big boys and underperformed. Ergo he of all people should expect that his future here was on shaky ground. Furthermore we sign Thompson, a guy who looked like he was going to Vandy, to fill the role that Landry would have played.




If anything by releasing him now, instead of after a year of no playing time, CCM has given Landry the chance of finding a school he can play at, which gives him a better chance of a good college career. This was the best move for all involved, and I would be shocked to think that Landry did not see the writing on the wall. If that is the case the dude is just naive as to what it takes to play in the SEC.


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That's the problem......the kid had mediocre stats at his previous.....it was obvious to everyone from the time that he committed that he was not a Div 1 talent....I know BTO I should coach but u have to admit I was right......

I deal a lot with people on the AAU scene and this reeks of some of the things that go on there. He should heve been let go the minute u knew he couldn't help our team....it's obvious he would add nothing regardless if we added Thompson or not.
 
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whobethis16 said:
Go back and read some of your posts when you were saying that Martin needs to step up his game, quit being such an stand up guy, and become more cutthroat so he can compete. Or better yet, how he never should've been hired because he's not a winner, and now that he's doing things that almost every coach you'd want have done, and will help him win, you hate him for it.
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No most coaches wouldn't have signed someone like Landry
 
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de3cls said:
I feel you don't sign a player just to be filling the roster. If CCM could not have signed anyone that can/will help the team, then hold the scholly til next year & sign someone that's going to contribute.
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Someone who gets it.....that's the main point
 
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MothershipChip said:
I am starting to wonder if the majority of the people commenting on this story just have a predisposed dislike for Coach Martin. Most people have been freaking out about Landry's numbers and saying we should not take the kid. Now, literally a day later, people are acting like releasing the kid is the most Unethical vile thing that a coach could do.

Landry signed as a Junior when he had better numbers at a lower tier high school. He got around the big boys and underperformed. Ergo he of all people should expect that his future here was on shaky ground. Furthermore we sign Thompson, a guy who looked like he was going to Vandy, to fill the role that Landry would have played.

If anything by releasing him now, instead of after a year of no playing time, CCM has given Landry the chance of finding a school he can play at, which gives him a better chance of a good college career. This was the best move for all involved, and I would be shocked to think that Landry did not see the writing on the wall. If that is the case the dude is just naive as to what it takes to play in the SEC.


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The Mothership has landed.. and out of it comes the TRUTH. It's a business and this is life. Landry will be okay, at another school. :good!:
 
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The NCAA needs to take steps in order to protect its athletes from situations like this. The solution is this:


If an NLI is signed and not honored by the school the program involved loses a scholarship for the following year.


NLIs are one year contracts and the NCAA should hammer schools that don't hold true to that contract.
 
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D1 sports has always been a cutthroat business. It is what it is CCM has to win. If he doesn't he will feel the pain of it being a cutthroat business. Do we like it? No, but we sure do like winning, and you can't have your cake and eat it too...
 
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BruinVol said:
The NCAA needs to take steps in order to protect its athletes from situations like this. The solution is this:


If an NLI is signed and not honored by the school the program involved loses a scholarship for the following year.


NLIs are one year contracts and the NCAA should hammer schools that don't hold true to that contract.
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We would have honored it, we just tell them that they will never ever see the floor and need to find somewhere else to play.
 
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TOP said:
The same people ignoring this are probably some of the same people who talk crap about Pearl and call him sleazy. Because ya know, messing with a kid's future is classy and all.
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Ever heard of Daniel West?

That was 100x worse than this.
 
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vols 30 said:
Blatant shot at Pearl.........IMO
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How is that a shot? It's the truth. I just read through, and people like GiveEmSix have spent this entire thread talking about how Martin is a horrible person and Pearl would never do something like this. Pearl did something much worse, but of course no one wants to talk about that.
 
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VKAman said:
How is that a shot? It's the truth. I just read through, and people like GiveEmSix have spent this entire thread talking about how Martin is a horrible person and Pearl would never do something like this. Pearl did something much worse, but of course no one wants to talk about that.
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I don't think what CM did was a bad thing. Its what's best for the program. I don't think what Bruce did was a bad thing either. Just NCAA BS .
 
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VKAman said:
How is that a shot? It's the truth. I just read through, and people like GiveEmSix have spent this entire thread talking about how Martin is a horrible person and Pearl would never do something like this. Pearl did something much worse, but of course no one wants to talk about that.
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What did pearl do.....thought he was academically ineligible
 
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calban said:
Yes. Look how Crean's over recruiting the last couple of years has killed the Indiana program.
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Martin has had the talent to win. He has not.
What is Martin going to have to have Je fab 5 to get to the tourney ?
He had been a failure and and an embarrassment to the program.
His whining after not losing to teams to teams in regular season that should have been given wins and blowing it in the SEC Tourney then whining about it was embarrassing and shows he is not ready for the big time.
 
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volbeast33 said:
What did pearl do.....thought he was academically ineligible
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He was, but Pearl told him there would be a scholarship for him the next year if he stayed. He couldn't be on scholarship for the season he was ineligible, so he paid his own way for a year.

Numbers were getting tight in spring, so West's dad talked to Pearl in February and again in April (IIRC) about whether he was sure there would be a spot for West. Pearl said he was. Then, in summer, Pearl tells him there's no scholarship and he has to leave.

Also, IIRC, West didn't have the money to pay his way through a year at UT so his community came together to help raise it for him. Obviously didn't mean much in the end though.
 
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Gramps said:
Martin has had the talent to win. He has not.
What is Martin going to have to have Je fab 5 to get to the tourney ?
He had been a failure and and an embarrassment to the program.
His whining after not losing to teams to teams in regular season that should have been given wins and blowing it in the SEC Tourney then whining about it was embarrassing and shows he is not ready for the big time.
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I'm not that high on Martin either, but I disagree that over signing as bad PR can kill a program.
 
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