Cutcliffe's record at Duke makes

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Cut is at a perfect place, where there is no pressure, and he is a hero for winning games and going to back to back bowls. My olnly concern with him was recruiting, but you know he will develop his players. You just have to be able to develop good talent in the SEC.

There is a chance that Duke could go 10-2 this year if they beat Miami this week at home. They finish on the road against Wake and UNC. They also lost to Pitt by 3. That would be incredible.
 
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By "Cutcliffe's record at Duke", do you mean the 5 years without a winning season? 1 win over a top 25 team in 6 years? I mean, sure it's Duke, but it still isn't anything you would call impressive. I'm willing to bet there isn't another major program out there whose fanbase is saying "Man, what if we could hire David Cutcliffe?" That said, yeah, he would have probably been good enough for 8 wins a year here.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Cutcliffe wanted to bring his own staff and not inherit any of Fulmers current staff. However; I can only recall one person remaining from the Fulmer staff that was also on the Kiffin staff.....

Mute point!

I, personally, think that Cutcliffe did a good job at Ole Piss when he was there.....
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Ole Piss :eek:lol:
 
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oregonvol said:
By "Cutcliffe's record at Duke", do you mean the 5 years without a winning season? 1 win over a top 25 team in 6 years? I mean, sure it's Duke, but it still isn't anything you would call impressive. I'm willing to bet there isn't another major program out there whose fanbase is saying "Man, what if we could hire David Cutcliffe?" That said, yeah, he would have probably been good enough for 8 wins a year here.
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That's what we were under Fulmer-basically.
 
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SecondYearVol said:
Not convinced Cutcliffe would have turned this around.
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Agree. I like Cut alot but am not sure he was the answer. That said, the program probably would have been well ahead of where it is if he had been hired whether he was now being replaced... or now replacing Fulmer on street signs.
 
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Always thought people were unfairly dismissive of Cutcliffe. Not sure why except that he seems "boring" and everyone wanted a flashy hire. Other than Jon Vaught, it's difficult to name anyone with more success at Ole' Miss than Cutcliffe.

He's done a spectacular job at Duke. Imagine if he wins 8 games this season --- it'll be Duke's best run since Spurrier was in town. He's only one win away. If he wins 9 games, it'll be Duke's best season since 1962, when they went 8-2.

I like Butch Jones, so not complaining, but I think if Cut were hired instead of Kiffin or Dooley, we'd be in a lot better shape. If he can go 7-2 at Duke with minimal talent, he could certainly have won in Knoxville.
 
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1972 Grad said:
Cutcliffe did a great job at Ole Miss for a few years. The year after Eli graduated, Ole Miss lost several games(seems like about 8), but by just a few points. The A.D. or the administration demanded that Cutcliffe shake up his staff, and fire asst coaches. Cut stated that they were not the problem, and refused to fire them. Cutcliffe was then fired himself.
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Buddy of mine is a huge Ole Miss fan, lives in Memphis. He hated Cutcliffe, said he didn't recruit worth a crap there after his first year or 2, was very happy to see him go. I always scratched my head, tried to argue back a little and point out the really good things Cut did there to turn Miss around. He would have none of it, said most Ole Miss fans felt the same way. Never quite understood.
 
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Cut is a great OC. He's a good HC. He's a marginal recruiter... and so were the guys he wanted to bring with him. That works better at Duke than in the SEC.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Cutcliffe wanted to bring his own staff and not inherit any of Fulmers current staff. However; I can only recall one person remaining from the Fulmer staff that was also on the Kiffin staff.....

Mute point!

I, personally, think that Cutcliffe did a good job at Ole Piss when he was there.....
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It's m-o-o-t
 
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RollerVol said:
Cut didn't want the job here. Duke much better fit for him. Not as much pressure and he's having fun.
GO VOLS!
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Not right. He very much wanted it but wanted to bring his own staff from Duke with him. If he had been zllowed to he would have been here, but not sure he would have been any more than 7-8 wins a year.
 
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Cut had Eli at Ole Miss. It's a lot easier to win, I don't care where you are, when you've got a great QB.
 
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Cutcliffe is a great teacher and organizer...not dynamic enough to build a powerhouse, but well capable of maintaining one...at Duke, with low expectations and a patient fanbase, he found the perfect landing spot...be happy that Hamilton refused him his required autonomy and gave him an out...he would have coached us up and won a heck of a lot more games...but we had a future of midlevel conference status and endless VN threads on the subject :)
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From what I always heard Cut and the Chief did not like each other, so that would have been out of the question. I think Cut is doing a good job at Duke. Mediocre to them is like Championships to us. If Cut would have been hired here I think we might have topped out at 7-9 win seasons, we probably would not have been much below or above that mark. That is mediocrity in my book.
 
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Rudy123 said:
Cutcliffe wanted to bring his own staff and not inherit any of Fulmers current staff. However; I can only recall one person remaining from the Fulmer staff that was also on the Kiffin staff.....

Mute point!

I, personally, think that Cutcliffe did a good job at Ole Piss when he was there.....
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It wasn't the fact that he wanted to bring all his own guys... UT was fine with that.

It was the fact we would have had to pay the buyouts on every one of those coaches.

The money it would have cost us was just an insane amount IIRC.

Or else Cutcliffe would have had the job.
 
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ImportedVoL said:
It wasn't the fact that he wanted to bring all his own guys... UT was fine with that.

It was the fact we would have had to pay the buyouts on every one of those coaches.

The money it would have cost us was just an insane amount IIRC.

Or else Cutcliffe would have had the job.
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I slightly disagree. They obviously did not care too much about the money. They hired Kiffin and his bunch of thugs at Top dollar and still paid for all but one buyout. So money did not seem to be the issue.
 
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oregonvol said:
By "Cutcliffe's record at Duke", do you mean the 5 years without a winning season? 1 win over a top 25 team in 6 years? I mean, sure it's Duke, but it still isn't anything you would call impressive. I'm willing to bet there isn't another major program out there whose fanbase is saying "Man, what if we could hire David Cutcliffe?" That said, yeah, he would have probably been good enough for 8 wins a year here.
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I think everyone would be happy with 8 wins since right now we are desperate for 6 ...my bet is we it would be more like 9-10 wins
 
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