D4H's 2017 College Football Season Preview

#551
#551
99gator said:
I'll take a break from beating Dobbs4Heisman over the head. In looking at this his predictions here aren't that bad.

A. Notre Dame didn't go 11-1, but they were far more legit and relevant this season than most predicted.

B. Clemson won the ACC and most were predicting FSU to win the ACC this season.

C. Mayfield won the Heisman. He may have been the front runner heading into the season, but usually the winner is someone like Lamar Jackson, Cam Newton, Tim Tebow, etc., that was on no one's radar when the season started.

D. Predicting USC to win the Pac 12 wasn't that special. Getting their final record and one of the two losses predicted in the final record was impressive. Same goes for Oklahoma. Had them 13-0. They were 12-1. They were favored to win the Big 12 I am sure, but I don't know how many thought they'd be this strong with Stoops quitting.


He was off on was the Big 10. He was also off on Tennessee prediction and I think it's kind of obvious that was a drunk as hell homer move.

Basically, to be fair, a lot of people have purchased magazines and other publications over the years that were a hell of a lot more wrong than this.
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you are still leaving off at least half of his predictions on the year.

Michigan being elite being another, his "talent" evaluations are jokes as well.

also a bunch of his predictions aren't stretches. Clemson vs FSU, that was a coin flip going into the year and who knows what happens if FSU keeps their QB. Oklahoma and Mayfield, yawn.

he continuously acts like his predictions are hot takes even if he only hits 1/10. thats why he gets grief.
 
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For the sake of fairness, here were my preseason picks for cfp:

Alabama
FSU
Ohio St
Stanford


I was way off on FSU.
 
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LouderVol said:
you are still leaving off at least half of his predictions on the year.

Michigan being elite being another, his "talent" evaluations are jokes as well.

also a bunch of his predictions aren't stretches. Clemson vs FSU, that was a coin flip going into the year and who knows what happens if FSU keeps their QB. Oklahoma and Mayfield, yawn.

he continuously acts like his predictions are hot takes even if he only hits 1/10. thats why he gets grief.
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No it wasn't. Almost everyone picked Florida State to win the ACC. And a lot of people were doubting whether Clemson could be great without Deshaun Watson.

Clemson was not looked at as a playoff team in the preseason.
 
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#557
D4H threads are like car wrecks.
Occasionally, you wander upon one and you know it's going to be bad and it's best not to look.
Yet, you just can't help slowing down and taking a peek.
 
#558
#558
Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
No it wasn't. Almost everyone picked Florida State to win the ACC. And a lot of people were doubting whether Clemson could be great without Deshaun Watson.

Clemson was not looked at as a playoff team in the preseason.
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no. there were plenty of people discussing how they were going to do with their defense first, and people were pretty hype about their QB, saying he just needed a little time.

also everyone had their game circled against Auburn as two contenders going at it.
 
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LouderVol said:
you are still leaving off at least half of his predictions on the year.

Michigan being elite being another, his "talent" evaluations are jokes as well.

also a bunch of his predictions aren't stretches. Clemson vs FSU, that was a coin flip going into the year and who knows what happens if FSU keeps their QB. Oklahoma and Mayfield, yawn.

he continuously acts like his predictions are hot takes even if he only hits 1/10. thats why he gets grief.
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He also stated that Blackmon was better than Francois for FSU .. uhhh .. NO! With Francois, even with a horrendous OL, FSU is a solid team. Without, and he was a RS Sophomore this year so not like a 5th year Senior or anything, they are scraping by to get to a bowl.
 
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#560
TDawg said:
He also stated that Blackmon was better than Francois for FSU .. uhhh .. NO! With Francois, even with a horrendous OL, FSU is a solid team. Without, and he was a RS Sophomore this year so not like a 5th year Senior or anything, they are scraping by to get to a bowl.
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I think Blackmon is better. We'll see who wins the job next year.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
With the 2017 college football season officially kicking off tonight, here are my predictions for the upcoming season:

SEC East
1. Tennessee (12-1; 7-1) – SEC Champion (defeat Auburn in Championship Game); loss to Alabama; best win: Auburn (11-2)
2. Georgia (8-4; 5-3) – losses to Notre Dame, Tennessee, South Carolina, and Auburn
3. Florida (6-6; 4-4) – losses to Michigan, Tennessee, LSU, Georgia, South Carolina, and Florida State
4. Missouri (6-6; 3-5)
5. South Carolina (6-6; 3-5)
6. Vanderbilt (5-7; 3-5)
7. Kentucky (5-7; 3-5)

SEC West
1. Auburn (11-2; 7-1) – losses to LSU and Tennessee (in the SEC Championship game)
2. Alabama (11-1; 7-1) – loss to Auburn
3. LSU (9-3; 5-3) – losses to Ole Miss, Alabama, and Tennessee
4. Texas A&M (7-5; 4-4)
5. Arkansas (7-5; 3-5)
6. Ole Miss (6-6; 3-5)
7. Miss St. (6-6; 2-6)

Big 10
1. Michigan (13-0; 9-0) – Big 10 Champion; best win: Ohio State (9-3)
2. Ohio State (9-3; 7-2) – losses to Oklahoma, Michigan State, and Michigan

ACC
Clemson (10-3; 7-1) – ACC Champions; losses to Auburn, Florida State, and South Carolina

Big 12
Oklahoma (13-0; 9-0) – Big 12 Champions; best win: Ohio State (9-3)

Pac 12
USC (11-2; 8-1) – Pac 12 Champion (losses to Notre Dame and Arizona St.)

Independent
Notre Dame (11-1) – loss to Michigan State; best win: Pac 12 Champion USC
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Quick fact check (underlined is correct, bolded is wrong):

On the 26 games you specifically predicted, you were correct on 12/26, or 46%.

In other words, my little sister choosing the team with her favorite mascot would have a good chance of beating you.

This seems to point to mediocrity rather than guru, wouldn't you agree?
 
#565
#565
How did anyone ever, ever, ever, ever think Butch would go 12-1 or win the SEC?

He didn’t even win the Big East outright. If you gave him an All-Star team of Saban’s best players ever, he’d go 9-3 with it.
 
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Vols410 said:
Quick fact check (underlined is correct, bolded is wrong):

On the 26 games you specifically predicted, you were correct on 12/26, or 46%.

In other words, my little sister choosing the team with her favorite mascot would have a good chance of beating you.

This seems to point to mediocrity rather than guru, wouldn't you agree?
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If you think 46% is bad, check out his player evals.
 
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#567
NashVol11 said:
How did anyone ever, ever, ever, ever think Butch would go 12-1 or win the SEC?

He didn’t even win the Big East outright. If you gave him an All-Star team of Saban’s best players ever, he’d go 9-3 with it.
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I don’t think he actually thought it would happen; I think he did it just in case it happened so he could say he called it, and when it didn’t happen he just claims he was “being positive.”

Also a cheap and easy way to get likes.
 
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NashVol11 said:
How did anyone ever, ever, ever, ever think Butch would go 12-1 or win the SEC?

He didn’t even win the Big East outright. If you gave him an All-Star team of Saban’s best players ever, he’d go 9-3 with it.
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Butch Jones had an all-star team in 2015 and 2016 that was more talented than any team Saban had and he went 9-4.

Butch Jones is one of the worst coaches ever.
 
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Dobbs 4 Heisman said:
Butch Jones had an all-star team in 2015 and 2016 that was more talented than any team Saban had and he went 9-4.

Butch Jones is one of the worst coaches ever.
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I could have sworn that, in 2016, Butch coached the first 15-0 team in history.
 
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#575
volnbama_ said:
UT didn’t have the horses on the LOS to be more talented than any team Saban has coached
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It's true we lacked talent on the offensive line but our defensive line was talented. And we more than held up fine in 2015 when we were healthy.

We had a large number of injuries in 2016 by the time we faced them.
 
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