Dear Romney and McCain

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#103
BigPapaVol said:
and the relevance to the presidency? His flight aptitude and aerial SA were weak, so he's unqualified to be the Chief Exec?
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I think he point Savage was making is McCain wasn't a competent pilot what else is he not competent at?
 
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oklavol said:
I think he point Savage was making is McCain wasn't a competent pilot what else is he not competent at?
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and you're passing such a stupid comparison off to everyone else. Guess that makes sense if you're making fun of Savage being a near retard with a radio show, but you're not.

I suspect that he would never have batted .350 in the bigs either, but does that matter?

I don't like McCain, but let's at least talk about things that are relevant to what he's trying to do here.
 
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oklavol said:
If your running as a war hero. Probably.
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he's running as a POW who could have left his comrade's but did not. That's about fortitude, not ability to break friction with the earth and manipulate the controls of a fighter airplane.
 
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GAVol said:
Could we please start discussing Immigration, Tax policy and S & L's so I can get back to bashing McCain legitimately? :crazy:
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exactly, there are so many more issues with McCain that are actually relevant. You don't even have to go any further back than 2001. Voting against the tax cuts, allying himself with Kennedy, Feingold, and Lieberman to produce some of the worst legislation in the present era.
 
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I'm not defending McCain or Savage.

I just assumed McCain has a stellar military record and was surprised to hear on the radio that he probably wasn't even a competent pilot. I don't know why everyone is attacking me for simply restating what I heard on the radio and what I've found on the net.

I'm not defending Savage, if misrepresented one of McCain's accidents as his fault then that was wrong. I'm simply stating what I heard on the radio. I don't think Savage purposely goes around misrepresenting facts on the radio every day. Looks like he missed this one.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
and you're passing such a stupid comparison off to everyone else. Guess that makes sense if you're making fun of Savage being a near retard with a radio show, but you're not.
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Near retard with a radio show? The man has a PHD, and is more educated then anybody else on the radio that I can think of at the moment.
 
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Savage purposely omits pesky little facts and skirts the truth to support his worldview at every single opportunity.
 
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Everyone, calm down....we will be ok

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oklavol said:
Near retard with a radio show? The man has a PHD, and is more educated then anybody else on the radio that I can think of at the moment.
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then he intelligently goes about crafting his half truths and BS.

He had you believing that McCain somehow blew up his own carrier, yet continued on flight status.

Surely you know some other highly educated folks who just aren't real sharp. Conversely, you have to know some extremely bright people who aren't very highly educated. In the end, education is simply an indicator of work accomplished and says nothing of how well it was accomplished. I'd take no PhD having Rush Limbaugh over Savage in a battle wits all day long and never think twice about it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
then he intelligently goes about crafting his half truths and BS.

He had you believing that McCain somehow blew up his own carrier, yet continued on flight status.

Surely you know some other highly educated folks who just aren't real sharp. Conversely, you have to know some extremely bright people who aren't very highly educated. In the end, education is simply an indicator of work accomplished and says nothing of how well it was accomplished. I'd take no PhD having Rush Limbaugh over Savage in a battle wits all day long and never think twice about it.
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If you know anything about Rush Limbaugh, you know he credits a great deal of his political ideology and thinking to sitting around the dinner table at night listening to his father and grandfather discuss politics. Both of them educated lawyers and what Rush referred to as 2 of the smartest people he ever met.

I know Rush doesnt have an education but he benefited from being around those who did. But I think its pointless to argue with you, because your not interested in a respectful debate or exchange of ideas.

On Savage, Savage didn't get a PHD by being a "retard" as you called him. And his comments about McCain, had me researching McCain's background more then anything.
 
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oklavol said:
If you know anything about Rush Limbaugh, you know he credits a great deal of his political ideology and thinking to sitting around the dinner table at night listening to his father and grandfather discuss politics. Both of them educated lawyers and what Rush referred to as 2 of the smartest people he ever met.

I know Rush doesnt have an education but he benefited from being around those who did. But I think its pointless to argue with you, because your not interested in a respectful debate or exchange of ideas.

On Savage, Savage didn't get a PHD by being a "retard" as you called him. And his comments about McCain, had me researching McCain's background more then anything.
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Your points about Rush's history, about which I could not care any less, make my point perfectly. He's a particularly bright, if absurd at times, individual and has no diplomas to show for it.

Sheepskins, or lack thereof, have nothing to do with someone's ability to reason. They simply mean, for those who have them, that they were accepted into a program and completed said program.

I don't think Savage is retarded, but he certainly goes to extremes and it's purely about listeners. He's not trying to be rational, so any diplomas he might have are absolutely useless in assessing the trash he puts out on the air.

I guess the easy route is to say that debating me is a waste of time because I can't appreciate your ideas. I promise you that when it is half baked drivel from a radio talking head, you're exactly correct. Bring something a bit more substantive to the fore and we can reasonably debate it.
 
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BigPapaVol said:
Your points about Rush's history, about which I could not care any less, make my point perfectly. He's a particularly bright, if absurd at times, individual and has no diplomas to show for it.

Sheepskins, or lack thereof, have nothing to do with someone's ability to reason. They simply mean, for those who have them, that they were accepted into a program and completed said program.

I don't think Savage is retarded, but he certainly goes to extremes and it's purely about listeners. He's not trying to be rational, so any diplomas he might have are absolutely useless in assessing the trash he puts out on the air.

I guess the easy route is to say that debating me is a waste of time because I can't appreciate your ideas. I promise you that when it is half baked drivel from a radio talking head, you're exactly correct. Bring something a bit more substantive to the fore and we can reasonably debate it.
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Well unlike you, I respect both Savage's and Limbaugh's opinion, and although I don't agree with them on a lot of issues, I'm willing to at least listen to their point of view and consider their opinion. Something I don't think you do.

Second, I don't normally feel the need to denigrate people I don't agree with, i.e. calling someone a "near retard" because he says something I don't agree with. In my experience, its pointless to debate with someone who thinks name calling is going to strengthen their arguement.
 
#117
#117
Reports saying Romney will suspend/quit the race for the WH. Being announced now
 
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