Debate thread

Never said I wanted any of it or you, just stated the facts for what they are. However, if you offer your fats and sugars to WTN, he'd swallow without chewing or even before his tongue touched anything. He's a master of that sort of thing. LSU-SIU is his understudy.
Lighten up Woody. You’re way too heavy, like oak.
 
lol.....of course it's a big, diverse world out there.

A world full of absolute truths, blatant lies, and everything in between - so who and what do you believe?

I'm good with my filter.

my default is to believe a fellow citizen even if they have a different view than me rather than immediately call BS because they have a different position.
 
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I would say the people voting for Trump do have a problem with it which is why he is a thing, I disagree with your assessment (Evil Genius v Weekend at Bernies) which was in your post that I responded to. I agree with your statement above, which is evident in real-time.... they'll vote for a Potato. The candidate is meaningless. The only reason why the media is talking about the Potato is they got orders to follow i.e. bad polls.



Trump is basically it. If one votes for anyone else, its unknown who is running things... it may very well be Trump, we don't know.

At the end of the day, they'll never provide a real candidate, its about providing a candidate they can control in part.

(I don't vote, and I am not saying anyone should vote for Trump... but realistic any other vote doesn't make sense because we don't know)

Right now, at least for a few days or weeks.... they have to come up with a way of taking either Trump or Biden out of the race.
I just don't see this as being as significant as you obviously do.

We never really know who and what are behind the decisions being made.
I trust Biden and the unknown far more than I do Trump and the unknown.
I would be more comfortable with Trump if I knew he had zero input.
 
They will do what most far left Democrats will do and try to spin the debate as evidence that both candidates must go. Otherwise they would have to admit to themselves that Trump has been right all along about Joe not being up for the job mentally and physically.

Your post is on point. This is evident that is what they are attempting to do. By doing it they attempt to make them equals or equally incompetent.

They know, if successful at this characterization it justifies them voting for an idiot, nimrod, and invalid.
 
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They will do what most far left Democrats will do and try to spin the debate as evidence that both candidates must go. Otherwise they would have to admit to themselves that Trump has been right all along about Joe not being up for the job mentally and physically.

On point. This is evident.
Here, courtesy of this smart man, are more facts.....Trump is lies.



Biden is the Charles Manson of the southern border. He is committing Helter Skeeter on American citizens.
 
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On point. This is evident.


Biden is the Charles Manson of the southern border. He is committing Helter Skeeter on American citizens.
It's their way to get more voters to vote democrat. If those illegals were to vote Republican the southern border would've been closed the first 2 hours from Biden.
 
I just don't see this as being as significant as you obviously do.

We never really know who and what are behind the decisions being made.
I trust Biden and the unknown far more than I do Trump and the unknown.
I would be more comfortable with Trump if I knew he had zero input.

But you don't know. You are saying you trust the unknown than go on to compare it to an unknown. Both unknowns could be the same. You don't know who is running the show in any way and this is all happening because of the unknown you trust.

It makes little sense that I can see. Each his own, but I wouldn't trust anyone with this logic.

If someone forced me to vote or be killed, I guess I would vote for Trump because what else is there?
 
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Only turbo tried to carry water for Biden. No one else did. Later in the day, Turbo changed his mind to he hopes Biden is replaced.

Thanks McD. On point as usual. Since ole Sloppy J has already been given all the super delegates I dont think he can be replaced legally unless he dies or chooses to remove himself from the race...which either would be unprecedented. Thankfully. Big Mike doesnt get a chance unless Joe lets him...
 
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But you don't know. You are saying you trust the unknown than go on to compare it to an unknown. Both unknowns could be the same. You don't know who is running the show in any way and this is all happening because of the unknown you trust.

It makes little sense that I can see. Each his own, but I wouldn't trust anyone with this logic.

If someone forced me to vote or be killed, I guess I would vote for Trump because what else is there?
I'm saying that someone is making the decisions - regardless.
It's not a complete unknown - Bannon, Star, Manafort........associations give us some insight - trump's suck - hugely
 
TRUMP Lie, trying to cover for his failed coup attempt and con MAGA (easy to do):


So you were there when Trump and Pelosi had a conversation. Trump offered the national guard but it was not accepted.

I disagree with his antics and he is too egotistical for my liking. The difference is Trump is vocal and brazen while other politicians put on a show.

I truly don’t understand how anyone could vote for Biden. And I’ve voted for both Dems and Republicans over the years.
 
They will do what most far left Democrats will do and try to spin the debate as evidence that both candidates must go. Otherwise they would have to admit to themselves that Trump has been right all along about Joe not being up for the job mentally and physically.
Can’t protect him in a basement again. Seems to be a theme since he announced he was running initially, Trump was right.
 
For all of the fake christians....


Once again, were you there? Idk if he did or not. Stormy said she never slept with the man. But then she changed her tune. It wouldn’t surprise me if he did and if he did, that’s on him. And I think our President should have morals.

But those days are long gone unfortunately and I don’t know if they ever existed. Look at Bill Clinton - “It depends on your definition of is.” He was in the Oval Office with a an intern.

Our country is in trouble and it’s sad to see.
 
Trump has dragged the Republican Party into the sewer. The man is a lowlife--pathological liar (fact), deeply corrupt (fact), treasonous (fact)---
and an all-around lousy human being without an ounce of personal integrity. His wife hates him, everybody who's ever worked with him hates him or finds him completely unfit. But let's give him credit for being popular with ignorant rednecks--there is that.

Lmao! You are the worst kind of troll. Hilarious using the term "redneck" with such disdain on a UT message board. Bet you hate "Hillbilly" too. You must be from Boston or L.A. huh lady?
Nah...bet my left nut you're from somewhere in the ultra-chic and sophisticated modern thinktank of Tennessee just like pretty much everyone else here. Guess what smells like good ole redneck bullsheit? That's your breath blowing back in your face.
 
Thanks McD. On point as usual. Since ole Sloppy J has already been given all the super delegates I dont think he can be replaced legally unless he dies or chooses to remove himself from the race...which either would be unprecedented. Thankfully. Big Mike doesnt get a chance unless Joe lets him...
I think that is correct. I still think it’s a possibility he will step down before the convention if asked. However, most of the Dems will vote for him regardless as debates have little impact nowadays.

Hopefully, the debate made impacts the independent voters. Four more yrs of Biden places our country in extreme danger with a continuous downfall to our border and economy.
 
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LOL indeed. Imagine people too dense to understand both common sense and scientific fact. Typical MAGA-ism. Myth reign supreme, facts be daymed.

Yeah, that study couldn’t be more flawed. Go on a meat only diet for a week and see what happens. Meat does not make you fat. Protein is not easily converted to fat and you’d have a very hard time eating excess calories if only consuming meat
 
But that’s not a lie (yet). What about Biden’s lies? I haven’t looked but are those getting equal attention? I would guess not.
You may be, and probably are right. The problem with TrumPutin is he blatantly lies so often. You can't help but notice. If got some shut your medicine, things would likely be better for him.
 
LOL indeed. Imagine people too dense to understand both common sense and scientific fact. Typical MAGA-ism. Myth reign supreme, facts be daymed.
There is neither common sense or scientific fact in what you posit or even, in fact, in that study you post if corrected for context.

At it's simplest definition getting fat is consuming more calories than utilized over time. It matters not one bit what your diet consists of if you're in a consistent calorie surplus. There are shredded people out there on a carnivore diet that eat nothing BUT meat. Keto is similar though not quite as extreme and is great for weight loss. (I know that from personal experience)

If look at what you posted it was correlative, not causative regarding meat.

"They found that study participants who consumed high amounts of meat had higher energy intake compared to those who consumed less meat, and were 33 percent more likely to have central obesity."

So what the're saying is basically dietary habits of some people eating meat correlate with overeating. For instance what's the difference between someone that eats a grilled chicken breast with a side of veggies, baked sweet potato and diet soda vs that same chicken breast breaded and fried, french fries and mac/cheese chased down with sweet tea? Hint, the meat component is identical.

And FTR that latter meal sounds yummy...just don't do it on the reg and expect not to gain weight unless you're a calorie burning machine.
 
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