Democrats are starting to panic

[OrangeTsar]

Free money 2020 vs free money 2021

Forgot about that one. I stand corrected

 

[utvolpj]

Good for you. But I doubt if anyone who is living in the nightmare that the liberals defund the police movement has created is laughing with you right now.

Most people believe in defunding the police in some fashion

 

[Rickyvol77]

Most people believe in defunding the police in some fashion

Lol “most” sure

 

[ButchPlz]

Most people believe in defunding the police in some fashion

I think most people are in favor of better training, better laws, and some restriction of police power/demilitarization, none of which are specifically accomplished by the broad-scope word "defunding".

 

[GreyWolf1129]

Most people believe in defunding the police in some fashion

Link to most people believing that, or are you assigning reasons based on your own personal bias?

I guess that blade cuts both ways, huh?

 

[AirVol]

Lol. The democrats wrote the book on pandering. Been buying votes since the new deal.

Dead people don’t have to pay.

 

[JOEY'S ALL VOL !!!]

Most people believe in defunding the police in some fashion

Link ?

 

[utvolpj]

Link to most people believing that, or are you assigning reasons based on your own personal bias?

I guess that blade cuts both ways, huh?

You've never admitted there even was a blade

 

[utvolpj]

I think most people are in favor of better training, better laws, and some restriction of police power/demilitarization, none of which are specifically accomplished by the broad-scope word "defunding".

Restrictions of power and gear would be funding. Actually doing police work to solve crimes instead of hiding in the bushes at a stop sign would use less funds. Finding alternatives to using police for every single call would be funding

 

[utvolpj]

Link ?

Check out any thread about the ATF, FBI, etc

 

[Rasputin_Vol]

Remember the anti-war Republicans the past few years? Parts of the GOP went from kick ass Neocons to straight Libertarian when it came to places like Afghanistan and Syria.

GWB, in one of his debates with Al Gore in 2000, mentioned that his foreign policy would not involve "nation building"...

 

[Rickyvol77]

Link to most people believing that, or are you assigning reasons based on your own personal bias?

I guess that blade cuts both ways, huh?

Funny how those who don’t even understand what’s actually going on and experienced it are the ones most vocal about “everyone” sharing their opinion lol

 

[Rickyvol77]

Check out any thread about the ATF, FBI, etc

Those aren’t “the police” being defunded

 

[KB5252]

can be applied to almost any politician's stance

Link to them admitting it was a disaster? You're assigning reasons based on your own personal belief or bias. Simple answer is they changed and the right is getting upset they can't hold it over heads anymore

Pelosi's statement is misleading at best and patently false at worst. It was the defacto policy of at least some portion of the Democrat party. The rest played nice and laid off criticism even though they thought it was bad policy save a select few.

It would be more accurate to say that is not Democrat policy any longer.

I wonder if there will be any backlash for their change of stance?

 

[82_VOL_83]

So you believe their stance to be wrong, they change the stance to closer to yours and then you accuse them of pandering?

Isn't that pandering?

 

[LargeOrange1]

The democratic party of pandering.

Thats not news....they've been doing that for decades

 

[Grand Vol]

Remember the anti-war Republicans the past few years? Parts of the GOP went from kick ass Neocons to straight Libertarian when it came to places like Afghanistan and Syria.

I do honestly think some politicians actually learned from the disaster that was the aftermath of Iraq and saw the writing on the wall in Afghanistan.

 

[0nelilreb]

If you believe they are simply pandering then there's only one answer. I don't think we know which is why I find the accusations laughable

You can get almost anything down with a good economy , people just don’t care as long as you don’t directly monkey with their paychecks . When your economy is tanking and you have an aggressive agenda, pandering is your only option before being voted out .

 

[utvolpj]

Those aren’t “the police” being defunded

Not really relevant to my point but they should be. So should the glorified revenue collectors

 

[utvolpj]

Isn't that pandering?

Assessing ones stance based on collected data is pandering?

 

[PEPPERJAX]

My god the fact that you think that is unique to the democrats is hilarious.

Start a thread about Republican pandering please.

 

[82_VOL_83]

Assessing ones stance based on collected data is pandering?

In order to gain from it when that stance will change based on polling data is pandering. Argue semantics all you want.

 

[BreatheUT]

Good grief. It just gets worse.

 

[BreatheUT]

can be applied to almost any politician's stance

Link to them admitting it was a disaster? You're assigning reasons based on your own personal belief or bias. Simple answer is they changed and the right is getting upset they can't hold it over heads anymore

I don't think that's it. The deed is already done. Crime is at all time highs in many places. You can't undo it for this election in my opinion. Just like you can just let in over two million people then say you know what, we believe in secure borders. They will have to be accountable. I know the electorate has a short memory but look at the number of issues mounting under this congress and administration. They are getting the lowest positive reviews ever recorded.

 

[ClearwaterVol]

Lol. The democrats wrote the book on pandering. Been buying votes since the new deal.

Again, the fact you can't see the same issue in your own tribe is hilarious.