Democrats plan to introduce articles of impeachment as early as Monday

This is a lie. He did not ask the VP to select his own electors. You are a liar. There were states that requested more time to make sure their election irregularities were fully investigated. He ignored those request.

You also virtually lied on point 2 as well. You left out the part where he stated to peacefully protest at the Capitol.

If you want your views to be taken seriously, there needs to be some truth to them.
Trump wanted Mike Pence to disregard the votes from the legally chosen set of electors, who were picked in accordance with the popular vote from their respective states in the presidential election. Trump wanted Pence to count votes from a different set of electors who would disregard the popular vote in their states and essentially "go rogue". The United States Constitution does not allow for that. The role of the Vice President during this formal proceeding on January 6th was nothing more than to serve as the director of a roll call. Pence could not do what Trump wanted done under the United States Constitution... So you can take your accusations of "lying" and shove them up your ignorant ass. Trump specifically stated in a series of tweets that this is what he wanted done.
 
Trump wanted Mike Pence to disregard the votes from the legally chosen set of electors, who were picked in accordance with the popular vote from their respective states in the presidential election. Trump wanted Pence to count votes from a different set of electors who would disregard the popular vote in their states and essentially "go rogue". The United States Constitution does not allow for that. The role of the Vice President during this formal proceeding on January 6th was nothing more than to serve as the director of a roll call. Pence could not do what Trump wanted done under the United States Constitution... So you can take your accusations of "lying" and shove them up your redneck ass. Trump specifically stated in a series of tweets that this is what he wanted done.
Once again, you're a liar. That's not what he wanted Pence to do.
 
Once again, you're a liar. That's not what he wanted Pence to do.
That was exactly what Trump wanted Pence to do. He said so in multiple tweets. Trump wanted Pence to disregard the votes from the legally chosen set of electors in some selected swing states and count votes from a different set of electors who had been hand picked to vote for Trump... in defiance of the certified popular vote in their respective states. The United States Constitution does not grant the Vice President the unilateral authority to do that.
 
When your party is beholden to a narcissistic jergoff like Trump, and even worse the Trump translator is Lindsey Graham, I'd say you might want to take a look in the mirror.
 
That was exactly what Trump wanted Pence to do. He said so in multiple tweets. Trump wanted Pence to disregard the votes from the legally chosen set of electors in some selected swing states and count votes from a different set of electors who had been hand picked to vote for Trump... in defiance of the popular vote in their respective states.
That's a lie. He said he could reject those electors that the state legislatures in those states had requested more time to investigate election irregularities. They sent Pence letters requesting the electors not be counted.
 
That's a lie. He said he could reject those electors that the state legislatures in those states had requested more time to investigate election irregularities. They sent Pence letters requesting the electors not be counted.
You are splitting hairs over semantics and also lying. Trump was asking Pence to not count the votes from the legally chosen set of electors... and instead count votes from a different set of electors who would defy the already certified popular votes in their respective states.

But even taking this statement in bold as factual... the United States Constitution does not give the Vice President the authority to do that. The role of the Vice President in that formal proceeding on January 6th, was simply to take roll of the electoral college votes. Nothing more, nothing less.
 
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When your party is beholden to a narcissistic jergoff like Trump, and even worse the Trump translator is Lindsey Graham, I'd say you might want to take a look in the mirror.

As opposed to the Dems? Nancy & Chuck say, "Hi!"

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You are splitting hairs over semantics and also lying. Trump was asking Pence to not count the votes from the legally chosen set of electors... and instead count votes from a different set of electors who would defy the already certified popular votes in their respective states.
No you lied and said he ask for alternative electors to be chosen. That's a lie. Those state legislatures asked pence in letters to not count electors, because they saw potential fraud in their elections. Don't get it twisted.
 
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No you lied and said he ask for alternative electors to be chosen. That's a lie. Those state legislatures asked pence in letters to not count electors, because they saw potential fraud in their elections. Don't get it twisted.
No, it's not a lie. Trump did want Pence to count votes from a different set of electors than the ones who had been legally chosen. Trump wanted Pence to count votes from a handpicked set of electors who would defy the popular votes in their respective states. Trump said this in his tweets.
 
No, it's not a lie. Trump did want Pence to count votes from a different set of electors than the ones who had been legally chosen. Trump wanted Pence to count votes from a handpicked set of electors who would defy the popular votes in their respective states. Trump said this in his tweets.
That's a lie. He asked him to reject electors of states that requested him to. Pence wrote a letter and basically did as you're doing and lied about what he was asked to do.
 
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That's a lie. He asked him to reject electors of states that requested him to. Pence wrote a letter and basically did as you're doing and lied about what he was asked to do.
No... I will say this one more time. Trump wanted Pence to disregard votes from the legally chosen set of electors in a few selected swing states, such as Arizona and Pennsylvania. The Constitution does not give the Vice President the unilateral authority to do that. Those electors had been chosen in accordance with their state's laws and Constitution and determined by the outcome of the popular vote in their respective states. In turn, Trump then wanted Pence to count votes from a different set of electors who had been handpicked to defy the popular votes in their respective states and vote for Trump. This would have been blatantly Unconstitutional if it had been done.
 
No... I will say this one more time. Trump wanted Pence to disregard votes from the legally chosen set of electors in a few selected swing states, such as Arizona and Pennsylvania. The Constitution does not give the Vice President the unilateral authority to do that. Those electors had been chosen in accordance with their state's laws and Constitution and determined by the outcome of the popular vote in their respective states. In turn, Trump then wanted Pence to count votes from a different set of electors who had been handpicked to defy the popular votes in their respective states and vote for Trump. This would have been blatantly Unconstitutional if it had been done.
88 State Legislators Ask VP Pence to Delay Count of Electoral Votes

Read the article you're not the constitutional genius you claim to be, and you're still lying.
 
No, it's not a lie. Trump did want Pence to count votes from a different set of electors than the ones who had been legally chosen. Trump wanted Pence to count votes from a handpicked set of electors who would defy the popular votes in their respective states. Trump said this in his tweets.
Do you have links to Trump’s tweets to back this up? Wasn’t his Twitter account de-activated during this time?
 
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No it's not. Not on the 6th. I've seen this lie reported multiple times by news outlets. I have no idea what he said before the 6th, but he was asked to reject on the 6th.
Then you are just splitting hairs then. I don't remember what days the tweets were sent, but Trump was definitely asking Pence to count votes from an alternate set of electors than the ones who had already been legally chosen. But even with what you are saying, Pence did not have the constitutional authority to reject votes from those electors. Does it make sense that he would have the power to influence the outcome of his own election in such a way? Wouldn't that be a massive conflict of interest?

When it comes to settling disputes, this is how it works: if at least one senator and one representative object to the results from a given state (this happened on the 6th), both chambers vote to sustain or reject the complaint. Only if both chambers sustain the complaint are the results thrown out (that didn't happen). When it comes to counting the votes, the 12th Amendment says, "The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall be counted." The Constitution gives the Vice President only one role in this process, which is to open envelopes for those votes to be counted. There is no assigned role for the Vice President other than that.
 
Biden has been the worst president in our history so far. He's further divided the country as governors sue him and declare they won't follow his dictatorship rule by EO. He cost many jobs, union jobs at that. He's suppose to be union Joe. He's obliterated our energy independence. He's continued the sellout of America to the CCP. He broke promises of vowing to immediately fire those of his staff that acted disrespectfully. Also broke the promise of $2,000 stimulus checks. He's made the most secure border we've had in decades, unsecure. Why are democrat voters so stupid?
They’re mindless sheep
 
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Then you are just splitting hairs then. I don't remember what days the tweets were sent, but Trump was definitely asking Pence to count votes from an alternate set of electors than the ones who had already been legally chosen. But even with what you are saying, Pence did not have the constitutional authority to reject votes from those electors. Does it make sense that he would have the power to influence the outcome of his own election in such a way? Wouldn't that be a massive conflict of interest?

When it comes to settling disputes, this is how it works: if at least one senator and one representative object to the results from a given state (this happened on the 6th), both chambers vote to sustain or reject the complaint. Only if both chambers sustain the complaint are the results thrown out (that didn't happen). When it comes to counting the votes, the 12th Amendment says, "The President of the Senate shall, in the presence of the Senate and House of Representatives, open all the certificates and the votes shall be counted." The Constitution gives the Vice President only one role in this process, which is to open envelopes for those votes to be counted. There is no assigned role for the Vice President other than that.
No you lied about what he wanted him to do on the 6th. Admit you lied and move on.
 
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