Dems refuse to participate in Debates Sponsored by FNS

#77
#77
A. Sane Fan said:
Can you name one conservative host of a regular nightly or daily program on PBS or CNN? Just one? If you can't, that's OK.
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Can you show me where in this post I said no other networks had this problem? Can you show me where I said other networks were not liberal? If you can't that's OK. The topic is FNC. You were the one inviting other networks here. I'm talking about the "fair and balanced" network. Again, I'm waiting for another liberal on FNC. With a string of conservatives and republicans, you have a lot of catching up to do.
 
#78
#78
CSpindizzy said:
With a string of conservatives and republicans, you have a lot of catching up to do.
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Who aside from Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity though would you really identify as a staunch right winger? Hume is fairly conservative, but I think he does a pretty good job of keeping things pretty much down the middle. Shepherd Smith and Greta Van Susteren are pretty much apolitical.
 
#79
#79
CSpindizzy said:
Can you show me where in this post I said no other networks had this problem? Can you show me where I said other networks were not liberal? If you can't that's OK. The topic is FNC. You were the one inviting other networks here. I'm talking about the "fair and balanced" network. Again, I'm waiting for another liberal on FNC. With a string of conservatives and republicans, you have a lot of catching up to do.
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Aha..........now I get it! I missed your point and apparently didn't make my point clear. My point was that Fox News isn't as far right as the others are far left. And I gave examples to support that point.

That is all I have to say on the matter until or unless you can show me I'm wrong with facts, not generalizations or questions.
 
#80
#80
Greta Van Susteren is a liberal.

Mort Kondracke is a democrat.

Brit Hume isn't liberal, but I don't think he's as conservative as Hannity.

O'Reilly gets labeled as a right wing conservative, but he's not.
 
#81
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GAVol said:
Who aside from Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity though would you really identify as a staunch right winger? Hume is fairly conservative, but I think he does a pretty good job of keeping things pretty much down the middle. Shepherd Smith and Greta Van Susteren are pretty much apolitical.
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I add to the list of conservatives:

E.D. Hill (and she's a moron)
the guy that host's Forbes on Fox and sometimes is a news host.

I would say that Jane Skinner appears relatively neutral as does Bill Hemmer (of CNN fame).
 
#83
#83
Paul Gigot, Sean Hannity, Oliver North, Tony Snow, Neil Cavuto, Brit Hume, John Gibson, Gretchen Carlson, John Kasich, Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy

All of these leading hosts are registered Republicans or have made their views very well known.
 
#84
#84
Geraldo Rivera used to be a flaming liberal until 9-11. He's not exactly a member of the VRWC now, but he's very much pro military (and their mission).

Tony Snow is no longer a host on Fox News, although when he was there he walked the middle line, quite unlike his radio show.


but getting back to the topic at hand, the Nevada Dems have no real reason to back out of these debates. Dennis Kucinich, for one, is openly against the "boycott" since it essentially prevents him from getting national exposure.
 
#86
#86
CSpindizzy said:
Paul Gigot, Sean Hannity, Oliver North, Tony Snow, Neil Cavuto, Brit Hume, John Gibson, Gretchen Carlson, John Kasich, Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy

All of these leading hosts are registered Republicans or have made their views very well known.
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Steve Doocy is a registered LOON.
 
#87
#87
CSpindizzy said:
Paul Gigot, Sean Hannity, Oliver North, Tony Snow, Neil Cavuto, Brit Hume, John Gibson, Gretchen Carlson, John Kasich, Brian Kilmeade, Steve Doocy

All of these leading hosts are registered Republicans or have made their views very well known.
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But how many times when you are watching Fox do you see political views disguised as hard news reporting? They might be conservatives, but I've never noticed anymore of a political bent to what guys like Cavuto, Smith and Hume say vs what I hear from Blitzer, Zahn, Cooper.

When Hannity starts talking, I don't think anybody is under any delusion that he is unbiased.
 
#92
#92
what's your point in all this, cspin? that you agree that the dems are right to pull out of the FNC sponsored debate because of the perception that FNC is too far to the right?

if that's the case, why agree to the arrangement in the first place? Whether Roger Ailes makes his joke or not, leftwing groups like moveon.org and the dailykos were focusing immense pressure on the dems to cancel the debate.
 
#94
#94
Hey...all I am saying is that the network when taken as a whole, are on the Right. Beginning with the top of the network, you have Ailes who has been and still is very plugged into the GOP. Then taking the mouthpieces of the network, a vast majority are on the right side.
 
#95
#95
Geraldo Rivera - unaffiliated
Anderson Cooper - Democrat
Wolf Blitzer - unaffiliated
Paula Zahn - unaffiliated
Lou Dobbs - Republican
 
#96
#96
Roger Ailes head of fnc the "fair and balanced "channel
Political consulting
Ailes carried out Republican political consulting for many candidates during the 1970s and 1980s, but returned to presidential campaigning as a consultant to Ronald Reagan in 1984. He is widely credited with having coached Reagan to victory in the second presidential debate with Walter Mondale after Reagan had disappointed his partisans with what some call a lackluster effort in the first debate. In 1984, Ailes won an Emmy Award as executive producer and director of a television special, Television and the Presidency. In 1988 Ailes was credited (along with Lee Atwater) with guiding George H. W. Bush to a come-from-behind [2] victory over Michael Dukakis. Ailes did not work on the 1992 Bush campaign against Bill Clinton.

[edit] Later television

In 1988, Ailes wrote a book with Jon Kraushar called You Are the Message: Secrets of the Master Communicators, in which he discusses some of his philosophies and strategies for successful performance in the public eye.
In 1991, Ailes convinced a syndicator to bring Rush Limbaugh from radio to television and became executive producer of the late-night show. He announced his withdrawal from political consulting in 1992.
In 1993, Ailes became president of NBC's cable channel CNBC and began planning another NBC cable channel, America's Talking. The new channel debuted on July 4, 1994. Ailes also hosted his own nightly show, Straight Forward, an hour-long talk show.
 
#97
#97
pretty exhaustive research there, Davol. What, exactly, does it show? We already know that Ailes leans heavily to the right.

It's also not germaine to the discussion. The dems agreed to the debate before they were against it.
 
#98
#98
MG1968 said:
pretty exhaustive research there, Davol. What, exactly, does it show? We already know that Ailes leans heavily to the right.

It's also not germaine to the discussion. The dems agreed to the debate before they were against it.
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Doesn't matter, they did what the should have done.. Why follow through a debate on a network that is severely slanted as FOX.
 
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