Derek Chauvin trial

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K-town Vol Fan said:
So you think possessing a drug should be punished more harshly than taking someone's life?


What a ****ed up world view.
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Name one possession charge that got someone more than 20 years. Even with a bunch of priors they’re not jailing someone for 20 years just due to simple possession. The people getting those sentences are high level dealers, likely with prior offenses.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Name one possession charge that got someone more than 20 years. Even with a bunch of priors they’re not bailing someone for 20 years just due to simple possession. The people getting those sentences are high level dealers, likely with prior offenses.
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State v. Collins, Tenn: Court of Criminal Appeals 2020 - Google Scholar

The trial court merged the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to deliver .5 grams or more of methamphetamine into the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to sell .5 grams or more of methamphetamine and imposed a Range II sentence of 20 years' incarceration for the drug possession conviction and a sentence of 11 months and 29 days for the conviction of possession of drug paraphernalia. The court aligned the sentences consecutively to each other and to the defendant's eight-year sentence in an unrelated case.

21 for drugs and paraphernalia and 8 for something else.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
State v. Collins, Tenn: Court of Criminal Appeals 2020 - Google Scholar

The trial court merged the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to deliver .5 grams or more of methamphetamine into the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to sell .5 grams or more of methamphetamine and imposed a Range II sentence of 20 years' incarceration for the drug possession conviction and a sentence of 11 months and 29 days for the conviction of possession of drug paraphernalia. The court aligned the sentences consecutively to each other and to the defendant's eight-year sentence in an unrelated case.

21 for drugs and paraphernalia and 8 for something else.
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Was this a “Dillinger” situation where the DA couldn’t get them for all the bad things they were really doing so the judge nailed them with the max for what they could?
 
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RockyTop85 said:
State v. Collins, Tenn: Court of Criminal Appeals 2020 - Google Scholar

The trial court merged the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to deliver .5 grams or more of methamphetamine into the defendant's conviction of possession with intent to sell .5 grams or more of methamphetamine and imposed a Range II sentence of 20 years' incarceration for the drug possession conviction and a sentence of 11 months and 29 days for the conviction of possession of drug paraphernalia. The court aligned the sentences consecutively to each other and to the defendant's eight-year sentence in an unrelated case.

21 for drugs and paraphernalia and 8 for something else.
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Ah so it wasn’t simple possession then.
 
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Septic said:
He was be a POS dope head and certainly no hero, but he was still a human and deserving of equal protection under the law.. So yeah, "all of this."
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When I said “All of this” I meant the rioting and making GF out to be a hero.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
I did actually. He said possession. I added the simple because anything else and you’re adding other charges counselor.
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Oh I see, it’s after “Name one possession charge that got someone more than 20 years,” which I did.

Dude in my case had 8.3 grams of a substance containing methamphetamine. Not exactly a “high level dealer.”
 
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RockyTop85 said:
Oh I see, it’s after “Name one possession charge that got someone more than 20 years,” which I did.

Dude in my case had 8.3 grams of a substance containing methamphetamine. Not exactly a “high level dealer.”
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Did you say he was charged by the state? I know the state doesn’t have to prove intent to distribute while the Feds do.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Did you say he was charged by the state? I know the state doesn’t have to prove intent to distribute while the Feds do.
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That was a state case. The crime he was convicted of does involve intent to resell, most of Tennessee’s felony drug statutes do, but 8.35 grams between three people isn’t an insane amount, relatively speaking.
 
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RockyTop85 said:
That was a state case. The crime he was convicted of does involve intent to resell, most of Tennessee’s felony drug statutes do, but 8.35 grams between three people isn’t an insane amount, relatively speaking.
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That’s not a “possession” case. That’s intent to resell.
 
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Orangeslice13 said:
I’m still don’t understand why a bigger deal wasn’t made of the history between the two. It’s entirely possible that this was personal and not just kneeling on the neck of a random suspect.
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Had to be because the prosecution didn’t see strong enough dots to connect their history to the resulting action. I have zero doubt if they thought it would’ve helped their cause in any way they would’ve used it, especially against the pitiful representation Chauvin. They could’ve gone for murder one if those dots connected well enough so there’s no way they wouldn’t have tried it.
 
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