Derek Chauvin trial

[GroverCleveland]

Celebrate? Get a grip.

... Shooting first and asking questions later is becoming the norm, ...

If your contention is this is fully or partially SOP for police, you are lying. There is absolutely nothing that supports this ridiculous statement.

 

[Septic]

They gave the violent felon several opportunities to go peacefully did they not? And then he decided to get violent with them and commit more felonies. They were not "heavyhanded" at all until this occurred...don't you agree?

Bro, she killed him when her life wasn't in danger. Just like Chauvin did and countless others. Cell phones and body cams (when they're not turned off) are game changers, your buddies need to lock it down or they're going to be doing time like this broad and Chauvin are about to.

 

[landscapingvol]

Umm, lotta' mistakes being made. She's a public servant being paid with tax dollars, if she or any other LEO can't handle the stress the shouldn't be given a gun.

You are welcome to take their place

 

[Septic]

If your contention is this is fully or partially SOP for police, you are lying. There is absolutely nothing that supports this ridiculous statement.

SOP? Who said that? Not following procedure is why they're winding up in these messes.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Bro, she killed him when her life wasn't in danger. Just like Chauvin did and countless others. Cell phones and body cams (when they're not turned off) are game changers, your buddies need to lock it down or they're going to be doing time like the broad and Chauvin are about to.

She killed him out of negligence and bad training yes, but that's not being "heavy handed" and it wasn't a "shoot first ask questions later" scenario that you stated....the suspect started the violence

 

[Septic]

You are welcome to take their place

Unlike these thugs with badges and immunity, I recognize my temperament wouldnt lend itself to law enforcement. Unfortunately for them and their victims, this is probably one of few professions they can make a career of without having to rely on intelligence. Braun is all that's needed.

 

[Septic]

She killed him out of negligence and bad training yes, but that's not being "heavy handed" and it wasn't a "shoot first ask questions later" scenario that you stated....the suspect started the violence

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify yet another unnecessary killing of a civilian by a cop.

 

[GroverCleveland]

SOP? Who said that? Not following procedure is why they're winding up in these messes.

Then to clarify:

If your contention is this is fully or partially the "norm" for police, you are lying or a complete dumbass. There is absolutely nothing that supports this ridiculous statement.

 

[Septic]

Then to clarify:

If your contention is this is fully or partially the "norm" for police, you are lying or a complete dumbass. There is absolutely nothing that supports this ridiculous statement.

I already stated it was hyperbole, try to keep up.

 

[DinkinFlicka]

Also, the now resigned police chief called it an accidental discharge.

I'm no expert, but I like guns. Isn't what she did a classic showing of a negligent discharge?

 

[Rickyvol77]

Unlike these thugs with badges and immunity, I recognize my temperament wouldnt lend itself to law enforcement. Unfortunately for them and their victims, this is probably one of few professions they can make a career of without having to rely on intelligence. Braun is all that's needed.

spoken like someone who has never actually experienced anything like a police ride a long or training on a FATS machine let alone dealing with the actual issues that police deal with

 

[KnoxRealtorVOL]

I didn’t realize the guy sitting to the defense lawyer’s left this whole time was Chauvin. I thought it was just another member of the defense team.

 

[Rickyvol77]

Whatever you need to tell yourself to justify yet another unnecessary killing of a civilian by a cop.

I am and have not justified her negligence. What I correctly pointed out was what happened and that your hyperbole of "shoot first ask questions later" and "heavy handedness" did not occur on this incident. and again you act like unjustified, illegal or negligent shootings by police happens frequently when statistically they do not

 

[Septic]

spoken like someone who has never actually experienced anything like a police ride a long or training on a FATS machine let alone dealing with the actual issues that police deal with

I don't really care what they have to "deal with", they know and if they aren't capable of making snap decisions then should recognize that they're in the wrong profession. Like I said, cell phones and body cams are going to tell on the incomplete, and tax payers are going to pay for it.

 

[Septic]

I am and have not justified her negligence. What I correctly pointed out was what happened and that your hyperbole of "shoot first ask questions later" and "heavy handedness" did not occur on this incident. and again you act like unjustified, illegal or negligent shootings by police happens frequently when statistically they do not

Whatever you need to tell yourself to make it feel better.

 

[GroverCleveland]

I already stated it was hyperbole, try to keep up.

Fair enough. I retract my statement.

 

[KB5252]

I wonder if the move to defund police has indeed begun in Minneapolis and if it could have had any bearing on this incident or not. But trying to make the case but it came to mind.

I'm a city that had suffered some major incidents recently I wonder if the knee jerk reaction to defund might be counterproductive. Leaving officers overworked, stressed and thinning out the "good" officers who have options and leaving many more of the "bad actors" in place to continue bad practices that have come to the forefront.

This is a tough situation and cool heads must prevail. So far I'm not sure that is happening though. Lines are being drawn and people pick sides when the truth is inevitably in the middle.

 

[allvol123]

Whatever you need to tell yourself to make it feel better.

You're free to present the statistics. But emotionally driven hyperbole is probably what you better stick with.

 

[jp1]

Celebrate? Get a grip.

Being a LEO is a dangerous job, and the risk is known before day one. Shooting first and asking questions later is becoming the norm, trying to justify it is weak af.

How many were traffic deaths or non violent crime deaths?

You seem to be saying one side knows the risks, but the other side doesn't. Does that seem logical to you?

 

[Septic]

You seem to be saying one side knows the risks, but the other side doesn't. Does that seem logical to you?

LEO's are trained and compensated to do a job that is high stress and knowingly dangerous, LEO's have the burden of responsibility to use measured force in their interactions with civilians. Crushing a mans larynx or "accidentally" discharging a gun are just the latest incidents in what seems to be occurring more, but I'd submit it's not, it's probably happening at the same rate - it's simply being documented for the world to see due to cell phones and body cams.

 

[Tastylicks]

trial is pretty much over now. Tommorrow I think is closing statements and then the jury starts deliberating on Monday

 

[jp1]

LEO's are trained and compensated to do a job that is high stress and knowingly dangerous, LEO's have the burden of responsibility to use measured force in their interactions with civilians. Crushing a mans larynx or "accidentally" discharging a gun are just the latest incidents in what seems to be occurring more, but I'd submit it's not, it's probably happening at the same rate - it's simply being documented for the world to see due to cell phones and body cams.

Fair enough, but are you saying since one side is compensated and knows the risks, then the other side (civilians/criminals/whatever you want to call them) doesn't have any responsibility and the risks that come with their criminal behavior is not important?

 

[Sea Ray]

trial is pretty much over now. Tommorrow I think is closing statements and then the jury starts deliberating on Monday

Closing arguments are Monday. I think the jury will get the case on Monday

Derek Chauvin tells court he will not testify; murder trial recesses until Monday's closing arguments

I think Chauvin should have testified

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

Celebrate? Get a grip.

Being a LEO is a dangerous job, and the risk is known before day one. Shooting first and asking questions later is becoming the norm, trying to justify it is weak af.

How many were traffic deaths or non violent crime deaths?

Just stop. You are trying to make it like this kind of thing happens every day and twice on Sunday. It doesn't. Like has been said elsewhere, Ms Potter didn't get up that morning with the intent of killing a black man. Weak af doesn't begin to describe the narrative that the vast majority of cops do. Shoot first ask questions later. THAT is weak af.

 

[SpaceCoastVol]

LMAO you are a hoot? drugs?

You are either dealing with Mick or the mind of a 16 year old girl. TIFWIW