Derek Chauvin trial

I see no reason why second degree murder doesn't fit based on Minnesota's definition.
Simple, Chauvin wasn’t intentionally harming Floyd. Did his action result in Floyd’s death? The jury said yes obviously but they’re saying Chauvin intended to at least harm Floyd based on that conviction. Ridiculous.
 
For what it's worth, i just read that the prosecution is arguing that the presence of children at the scene is an aggravating factor that should be applied at sentencing, so the 9 year old's testimony could also be relevant for that purpose.
Ok, yeah I guess that makes sense even though I don’t like it. It’s certainly smart by the prosecution. But I certainly wouldn’t want my child to go through that again unless there were no other choice.
 
I thought towards the end murder 3 or manslaughter was going to be the verdict. For a while I thought he would walk but I was wrong all around.

My only fear is these jurors feared for their lives here and chose 2 because of it.

I am ok with 2 here because this guy was scum but if this sets a trend moving forward we could be in major trouble.
 
Simple, Chauvin wasn’t intentionally harming Floyd. Did his action result in Floyd’s death? The jury said yes obviously but they’re saying Chauvin intended to at least harm Floyd based on that conviction. Ridiculous.
I find it hard to believe he wasn't intentionally harming Floyd. Clearly, the jury did, too.
 
I take issue with the assault part of the equation as I have thought about this.

I would not have put what Chauvin did in the assault category because otherwise anyone can claim assault against the police when you put them on the ground. That is a tricky one. That is why I came to an opinion of 3rd degree.
 
I find it hard to believe he wasn't intentionally harming Floyd. Clearly, the jury did, too.
Well I don’t see that at all. If that’s true then why not go for murder 1 too? It sure seems like none of the facts mattered anyway. Drugs, heart conditions, resisting, none of that mattered. It will be appealed and hopefully that will be done with the out the cameras and media attention so there is no undue influence from idiots like Waters and Biden.
 
Well I don’t see that at all. If that’s true then why not go for murder 1 too? It sure seems like none of the facts mattered anyway. Drugs, heart conditions, resisting, none of that mattered. It will be appealed and hopefully that will be done with the out the cameras and media attention so there is no undue influence from idiots like Waters and Biden.
And they shouldn't have. Those were pathetic attempts to cover for a cop who killed someone on camera.
 
So keeping a handcuffed man prone on the ground and holding a knee with half of your body weight on his neck for 9 minutes as he is pleading for his life and saying he couldn't breathe...thats not intentional harm?
He wasn’t intending to harm him. There’s a HUGE difference between intentionally restraining someone and intentionally harming someone. Surely you know this.
 
I take issue with the assault part of the equation as I have thought about this.

I would not have put what Chauvin did in the assault category because otherwise anyone can claim assault against the police when you put them on the ground. That is a tricky one. That is why I came to an opinion of 3rd degree.
Exactly why I hate the 2nd degree part. Now anytime an officer puts hands on someone you can scream assault and get away with it. This is a very dangerous and stupid precedent to set.
 
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