Derek Chauvin trial

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bamawriter said:
I'm a little confused by that as well. It may be a particular quirk of MN law. I have to assume any manslaughter sentence would have to run concurrent with the murder.
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It’s in case one gets overturned on appeal. And I believe he only serves the longest sentence applicable.
 
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utvolpj said:
He intended to cause him pain or at least discomfort and didn't even stop once he was dead. He knew what he was doing

He's going to have a lot of time to make some new black friends
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No, he’s gonna have very little time to make new friends, black or white. Somebody gonna kneel on his neck for as long as it takes.
 
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GSD82 said:
Every single white cop in the country should walk off the job
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No. Every single cop. It shouldn’t be about white and black and I don’t believe it was. Had Floyd been white I believe the exact same scenario would’ve played out but we will never know.
 
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utvolpj said:
He drove 20min and was attacked multiple times. He should be guilty of the gun charge and nothing more
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I can see how this one can be interpreted a couple different ways. I 100% understand the argument that he was out looking for trouble. It makes sense to come to that conclusion, but really the same could be said of everyone else present, regardless of position. Imo, it's just an ugly, ugly, disgusting, and unnecessary situation. I agree the argument for criminality is a weak one.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
Simple, Chauvin wasn’t intentionally harming Floyd. Did his action result in Floyd’s death? The jury said yes obviously but they’re saying Chauvin intended to at least harm Floyd based on that conviction. Ridiculous.
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Not really. Multiple people suggested, asked, or pleaded Chauvin to take his knee off Floyd's neck and he refused.
 
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Dudleys87 said:
From someone who’s not suppose to be carrying. Call a spade a spade but it really Doesent matter it’s all going to hell anyway.
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Shall not be infringed. Yea he shouldn't have had a weapon. But, since he was 17, shoukd he not have a right to defend himself?

If he didn't have a weapon, would he be alive today? Or severely injured
 
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Hairy Vols said:
I see a lot of opinions here and I know I won't change anyone's mind. But try and think for a second. Say your closest loved one, whoever that might be, got into an altercation with a cop. Maybe they were rude, maybe they didn't comply, but something happened. The cop gets angry. He cuffs your loved one and puts them on the ground. After they are subdued the cop places their knee on that person's neck. (All while other cops stand around and guard).

Then as he applies more pressure your loved one is gasping for air. Your loved one screams out, "I can't breath" then dies right after. D

Do you feel the same? Do you blame your loved one? If you say yes I'll be honest you're a lot more callus than myself.

Today, imo, justice has been served and I have no doubt in that.
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If my closest loved one was a career criminal POS drug addicted thug who resisted arrest while being arrested for committing yet another crime, then I would not shed one tear with any consequences they suffer.
 
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Foot Locker better button up and put out the Rittenhouse’s, them peaceful protesters gonna get dim sum nikes anywaze.
 
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hUTch2002 said:
No. Every single cop. It shouldn’t be about white and black and I don’t believe it was. Had Floyd been white I believe the exact same scenario would’ve played out but we will never know.
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I dont believe the trial itself as an entity was about black and white.....I think both sides did well not bringing race into it. But humans will bring that portion into it and I can confirm to you that cops in general (especially white ones) get lumped and stereotyped as being bad by a lot of the general public. This is perpetuated by what they see on tv to include the news, social media, and even newer tv shows on the the big 3 etc that villanize cops. Get ready for Christs return because we are quickly headed to it.
 
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The irony is that if the left feels like this vindicates their violence and chaos then it means it wasn’t a fair trial because it somehow changed the verdict. And if they don’t believe it impacted the verdict it means their vile actions were uncalled for
 
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Hairy Vols said:
I see a lot of opinions here and I know I won't change anyone's mind. But try and think for a second. Say your closest loved one, whoever that might be, got into an altercation with a cop. Maybe they were rude, maybe they didn't comply, but something happened. The cop gets angry. He cuffs your loved one and puts them on the ground. After they are subdued the cop places their knee on that person's neck. (All while other cops stand around and guard).

Then as he applies more pressure your loved one is gasping for air. Your loved one screams out, "I can't breath" then dies right after. D

Do you feel the same? Do you blame your loved one? If you say yes I'll be honest you're a lot more callus than myself.

Today, imo, justice has been served and I have no doubt in that.
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hUTch2002 said:
I think she blocked me long ago but I haven’t blocked her. I don’t believe in blocking people unless they’re personally harassing. Everyone has a right to their opinion and I just don’t respond or don’t read it if I don’t like it.
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Agree I never block anyone who isn’t straight up spam
 
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GSD82 said:
Every single white cop in the country should walk off the job
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And this is what is happening.........retirements, early retirements, and 2 week notices have skyrocketed. Some of the bigger agencies here in Florida have stopped accepting retirement paperwork and are spacing them out as they try and recruit new officers........the problem is no one wants to be one anymore as they see the way policing is going and the funds/pay are in jeopardy of being stripped. Most agencies are super short, no officer is being proactive causing crime to soar, and the proverbial "you get what you pay for" is coming into play as it pertains to new officers. When I started you had to have a degree, no legal issues, upstanding citizen, etc, etc and there would be a pool of 500 guys for about 5 to 6 spots. Now they are out recruiting and begging any breathing body to take the job..........its about to get bad guys.......real bad.
 
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NATHAN05 said:
And this is what is happening.........retirements, early retirements, and 2 week notices have skyrocketed. Some of the bigger agencies here in Florida have stopped accepting retirement paperwork and are spacing them out as they try and recruit new officers........the problem is no one wants to be one anymore as they see the way policing is going and the funds/pay are in jeopardy of being stripped. Most agencies are super short, no officer is being proactive causing crime to soar, and the proverbial "you get what you pay for" is coming into play as it pertains to new officers. When I started you had to have a degree, no legal issues, upstanding citizen, etc, etc and there would be a pool of 500 guys for about 5 to 6 spots. Now they are out recruiting and begging any breathing body to take the job..........its about to get bad guys.......real bad.
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Good news is that normal Americans with firearms will be able to protect themselves. It’s the betas that will be crying as their mom’s basements are robbed and their Subarus are carjacked
 
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