Detailed background and story on this whole Pearl situation

#52
#52
I don't care about any letter or if Mike Hamilton begged and pleaded for Pearl in public...he has got to go! Plain and simple.
 
#55
#55
People need to realize that Hamilton's hands are tied. He did all he could to retain Bruce but it was out of his hands. Now, I don't believe for one second that it was his choice to go public a few days before the tournament.
 
#57
#57
lylsmorr said:
People need to realize that Hamilton's hands are tied. He did all he could to retain Bruce but it was out of his hands. Now, I don't believe for one second that it was his choice to go public a few days before the tournament.
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hyams could've also went another direction...
 
#58
#58
I don't understand why the buyout, this situation has already cost the university big bucks.

The sooner this is resolved, the better for the kids.
 
#59
#59
lylsmorr said:
People need to realize that Hamilton's hands are tied. He did all he could to retain Bruce but it was out of his hands. Now, I don't believe for one second that it was his choice to go public a few days before the tournament.
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Exactly, and there isn't an AD in the country that would sabotage the freaking team before the tournament. That's a stupid move on a lot of levels. MH was saying what he had to and that should be easy to see.

One person posted about the NCAA earlier and they are dead on IMO. The NCAA is a joke. I have been asking if anyone knew whether Pearl staying would mean tougher punishment. I wanted to know so I could easily suggest that whether he was here or not shouldn't matter to the NCAA. But, I guess we have little children running the 'AA just like a lot of our local, state, and federal government. "Hey...you didn't respect me!!! Boo...hooo...I'll show you!!!" I guess expecting people to mature into adults is just a bit too much to ask anymore.

Now, let's find a good coach and say thank you to Pearl for all he has done. I think MH's point about the money coming in from bball is valid. My take is Bruce's salesman attitude helped because we have a large portion of the fanbase that would sit on their hands as we win 20 games. He was able to get people off their seats and into the games. Hopefully the next guy can do it as well. I really have enjoyed the NCAA tournament more over the past several years because we were around to watch.
 
#62
#62
volwarrior33 said:
This was posted on TOS a few minutes ago by a poster who received this e-mail:
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why would hambone get credit for Blackburn's monitoring of Kiffin..
If Hambone was that worried about Kiffin, that he had to assign a professional watchdog, he shouldn't have hired him

So that fact just reinforcees Hambone's incompentemce, and lack of forethought in the Kiffin hire
 
#63
#63
As I have said many times, the bump is a garbage deal. If this is why Pearl isn't coach anymore, I will be highly pissed. It essentially played out as I thought. The NCAA got on its high horse about the two weeks recruiting and went looking for something to pin on Pearl. They "found" something in the rules that is fairly arbitrary and never applied, even debateable as to if Pearl violated the rule at all, then decided to nail him for it.

What utter BS. If the NCAA doesn't crucify Tressel and force him out for doing something worse than Pearl, I don't see what purpose the organization exists for other than to shill for certain schools. I feel more and more sympathy for Jerry Tarkanian every day.
 
#64
#64
Unimane said:
As I have said many times, the bump is a garbage deal. If this is why Pearl isn't coach anymore, I will be highly pissed. It essentially played out as I thought. The NCAA got on its high horse about the two weeks recruiting and went looking for something to pin on Pearl. They "found" something in the rules that is fairly arbitrary and never applied, even debateable as to if Pearl violated the rule at all, then decided to nail him for it.

What utter BS. If the NCAA doesn't crucify Tressel and force him out for doing something worse than Pearl, I don't see what purpose the organization exists for other than to shill for certain schools. I feel more and more sympathy for Jerry Tarkanian every day.
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the NCAA lost all respect with letting USC walk after the Bush deal
 
#65
#65
I'm curious about the show cause penalty Pearl is going to get and how long he would be out of college coaching after this, assuming this is close to the truth. I wonder if he would end up as an NBA assistant.
 
#66
#66
Unimane said:
As I have said many times, the bump is a garbage deal. If this is why Pearl isn't coach anymore, I will be highly pissed. It essentially played out as I thought. The NCAA got on its high horse about the two weeks recruiting and went looking for something to pin on Pearl. They "found" something in the rules that is fairly arbitrary and never applied, even debateable as to if Pearl violated the rule at all, then decided to nail him for it.

What utter BS. If the NCAA doesn't crucify Tressel and force him out for doing something worse than Pearl, I don't see what purpose the organization exists for other than to shill for certain schools. I feel more and more sympathy for Jerry Tarkanian every day.
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Most governing bodies are jokes. It's usually about how sorrrrryyyyy you are. Tark didn't give a crap about them and that's why they didn't like him. Had he bowed down to the altar of bureacratic weasels, he would have been fine. I have never cared for them and this is just another episode, albeit at Pearl's own doing because he didn't want to just play the game, that shows their limp wristed rules.
 
#68
#68
Here's an article I found with a different opinion, FWIW dated 2/23/11:

http://espn.go.com/blog/collegebasketballnation/post/_/id/24015/so-what-now-will-bruce-pearl-survive


Let's begin with the actual notice, which you can read right here. The basketball-related charges are as follows:
  • "Impermissible contact with prospective student-athletes resulting from a cumulative total of 96 impermissible phone calls over a 24-month period (Aug. 1, 2007 through July 29, 2009).
  • "By the head men's basketball coach: impermissible contact with prospective student-athletes during an unofficial visit, acting contrary to the principles of ethical conduct, failure to promote an atmosphere of compliance, and failure to monitor the activities regarding compliance of all assistant coaches within the men's basketball program.
  • "By the head men's basketball coach and associate head coach: impermissible contact with a prospective student-athlete at his high school.
  • "By the three members of the men's basketball assistant coaching staff: failure to furnish full and complete information relevant to the investigation."
Which brings us to whether Pearl will keep his job. That answer seems to be … yes. Probably.

How so? How does a man who openly admitted lying to NCAA investigators -- not to mention all the other stuff listed above -- avoid losing his job? Because he wins. And because the Tennessee brass appears to appreciate those wins very much. We know this because they've essentially said so. As the Knoxville Sentinel-News reported yesterday:
Hamilton said it’s UT intention to keep men’s basketball coach Bruce Pearl on staff even if the NCAA imposes a one-year suspension. Hamilton said when the Vols received their letter of inquiry on Sept. 10 that he expected Pearl to be charged with unethical conduct.

“It’s our intention to keep him,’’ Hamilton said on Feb. 16. “Unless there’s something [severe violation] out there we’re unaware of.’’​
Pearl has also received a very public statement of support from the man in charge, which in this case is Tennessee Chancellor Jimmy Cheek. When Pearl was suspended by SEC commissioner Mike Slive for this season's first eight conference games, Cheek supported Pearl as such:
Chancellor Jimmy Cheek echoed his previous message of support for Pearl, indicating that the SEC's punishment in no way affects the coach's job security.

"Bruce is our coach, and he's going to be our coach for many years," Cheek said in the press conference. "We're going to get through this adversity."​
Cheek neither confirmed nor deviated from that stance today, which means the following: Tennessee's athletic director supports Pearl. Tennessee's chancellor supports Pearl. We can use the present tense there, because both of them supported Pearl in the fall when both knew all about the charges currently listed in today's notice of allegations. There is nothing new or unexpected in the report, so why would either change their positions now?

This could change in the future. Perhaps the NCAA could rule so harshly against Pearl that Tennessee is practically forced to fire him (and Hamilton along with him). But the school seems to have little interest in cutting ties with Pearl. Pearl is still wildy popular in the state of Tennessee. No one really seems to want him out. Certainly not the fans.

Both of these points are related; neither of them are all that hard to figure out. Pearl wins. He wins a lot. He wins in a manner that Tennessee has never experienced before, at least not in men's hoops. He has turned a long-dormant sideshow program into one of the nation's most perennially competitive outfits. In 2007-08, he led the school to its first-ever No. 1 overall ranking. In his five full seasons at the school, Pearl has led Tennessee to five NCAA tournament appearances, which is as many as the previous 22 years of UT coaches combined. He’s also taken the Vols to three Sweet 16 berths, one more than Tennessee had achieved in its history before Pearl arrived. Last season’s Elite Eight appearance? A first for the school.

So Tennessee isn't exactly ready to let go of Pearl. Not just yet. There will be more to this story, of course, and the NCAA could come down on Pearl -- and Hamilton, for that matter -- with the sort of punishment that makes his firing almost mandatory. But unless Pearl suddenly stops being the most successful Vols coach of the modern era, Tennessee appears ready to go to war on his behalf.

Last night, as Pearl's Volunteers essentially played themselves into yet another NCAA tournament berth with a huge win at Vanderbilt, Pearl finished his postgame sideline interview and bounded to the locker room, high-fiving orange-clad Tennessee fans along the way. The symbolism wasn't hard to spot: The Vols still love their winner.

So unless something changes, Pearl seems likely to survive this mess.

Somehow.
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#71
#71
Incipient said:
Had me worried, until I saw that it was dated February 23rd.
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I realize it's about a month old, but has their been new violations since then?

I thought the article had a nice breakdown with some good quotes, obviously they missed Hamilton's radio interview on Wednesday.
 
#72
#72
oklavol said:
I realize it's about a month old, but has their been new violations since then?

I thought the article had a nice breakdown with some good quotes, obviously they missed Hamilton's radio interview on Wednesday.
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Not that I know of, but it seems that sentiment has changed since then. The article in the OP said that the big shift occurred on March 1st.
 
#73
#73
they shoulda fired his ass as soon as they found out he lied again... this time directly to UT. there was absolutely no point in keeping him at that point. granted, if they fire him, the season woulda been a complete wash probably... but it was anyway.

so we are 3 months behind in moving on after pearl because hamilton tried to keep him by attempting to downplay another lie by pearl.
 
#75
#75
The most disappointing part of this is that it leavers me wondering if Hamilton has done due diligence with respect to sending the appropriate signals in his coaching search....I'm hoping we're farther along than this would suggest and can get someone that won't be as much of a plague as Hamilton makes it out to me (though that is obviously him also just trying to cover his rear / not lose another coach)...
 
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