Did we lose any recruits since saturday?

#51
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kptvol said:
Only one offense in the history of football has rivaled the one USC fielded in 2005. And Saban had a decent pool of talent for his 2007 team. He didn't do anything special. Acting like Kiffin is "nowhere near" the coach Saban is because of a bad four game run with a pathetic roster is ridiculous. What major contributors did Saban gain between the 2006 and 2007 season? Julio and Cody were big, definitely. But were they enough to add 6 wins? Seems like Saban needed to get his system installed in year one. He actually said during his first year with Miami that losses don't matter this season because he's building for the future.
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now to me this isn't even a debate. kiffin has 5 or 6 wins as a head coach between college and pro. satan rebuilt lsu, rebuilt bama. come on bro your reaching. to me this statement alone shows how blind you are because your so in love with kiffin. which is ok. up till the ucla game i was right along with you. then i saw his coaching skills in action and knew there was a problem. i also don't think the talant gap is as bad as you say it is. there are 4 star players all over the field for tennessee. i personally think kiffin is happy to write the season off till he has superior talant to everybody else. only problem with that is that i'm not sure it will happen in the sec. i'm not saying i'm right here, just stating some opinion. i was called crazy when i called for fulmers head 5 years ago, look how that turned out. i'm not calling for kiffin head, but i have lost alot of faith in him as a coach.
 
#52
#52
TNFAN72 said:
I have a very good reruiting source that is in the know with Jeff Luc. They say that he is really impressed with Auburn now, and has moved them to the top of his list over FL,FSU,GA,TN and LSU.

Looks like the Barn is getting close with another elite recruit. I guess when you keep your mouth shut and win games that goes along ways with recruits.
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Another clown with "very" good reruiting source! LMFAO!

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#53
#53
This team is NOT falling apart....gosh, is this board melting down or what. Stop spreading rumors if you know nothing about it.

The team fell apart LAST year, this team NEVER quit fighting last game. We see flashes of brilliance EVERY time they play. Lay off. This team will surprise UGA this week and I'm going to be there to see it.
 
#54
#54
champyvol said:
now to me this isn't even a debate. kiffin has 5 or 6 wins as a head coach between college and pro. satan rebuilt lsu, rebuilt bama. come on bro your reaching. to me this statement alone shows how blind you are because your so in love with kiffin. which is ok. up till the ucla game i was right along with you. then i saw his coaching skills in action and knew there was a problem. i also don't think the talant gap is as bad as you say it is. there are 4 star players all over the field for tennessee. i personally think kiffin is happy to write the season off till he has superior talant to everybody else. only problem with that is that i'm not sure it will happen in the sec. i'm not saying i'm right here, just stating some opinion. i was called crazy when i called for fulmers head 5 years ago, look how that turned out. i'm not calling for kiffin head, but i have lost alot of faith in him as a coach.
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#55
#55
First off I never thought this thread would make it to the front page. The reason I posted was not to start bad mouthing our program just that I don't pay for rivals or any of the pay sites and was wondering who all commited this week after ALL of Saturday's games. Not cause of how we did but cause of other visits at other schools doing well. IMO players are not commiting to UT because they think we are going to go 8-4 this season. They are commiting because of all the oppertunity that comes with going to UT. Heck, what high school start does'nt think he can start for our offense right now. If you think CLK has been selling anything to do with our schedule this year you are crazy. He is not that dumb. He know signing day is after the season! Point is record does not matter this year. Just like it did not when Satan went to AL. We will still have a top 5 class if our fans can keep getting into the games so our recruits can see what it is like to play here in Tn. Last game was great to see the fans come out it also gave the recruits the oppertunity to see what we are all about and WHEN we are winning, this place will be amazing!
 
#56
#56
champyvol said:
now to me this isn't even a debate. kiffin has 5 or 6 wins as a head coach between college and pro. satan rebuilt lsu, rebuilt bama. come on bro your reaching. to me this statement alone shows how blind you are because your so in love with kiffin. which is ok. up till the ucla game i was right along with you. then i saw his coaching skills in action and knew there was a problem. i also don't think the talant gap is as bad as you say it is. there are 4 star players all over the field for tennessee. i personally think kiffin is happy to write the season off till he has superior talant to everybody else. only problem with that is that i'm not sure it will happen in the sec. i'm not saying i'm right here, just stating some opinion. i was called crazy when i called for fulmers head 5 years ago, look how that turned out. i'm not calling for kiffin head, but i have lost alot of faith in him as a coach.
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You've lost faith this soon... Geez..

Your one of those people that quit in Madden or Ncaa when some goes up a touchdown aren't cha..
 
#57
#57
I really would hate to lose meline and jones. They may be low 4 star prospects, but only b/c they are so raw and I think will be damn good players one day. Both have NFL potential just by looking at measurables, especially jones at TE or DE.
 
#58
#58
Some folks crack me up on this site...

Kiffin has done a fantastic job with this program...

1. He got rid of players who were not good chemistry players or who got into trouble..

2. We had 0 arrests during the offseason

3. Best Grades in 6 years

4. Brought in a top 10 class in 3 months with a half assembled staff..

5. Has a top 5 class as of right now for next year

6. We have more players interested in Tennessee then we have had in years...

7. He has brought new life to the program and intensity on the field..

Once Kiffin gets the players he wants then we will be just fine for many years to come. I think Kiffin is calling plays this year based on what he can work with. We cant come out every week and run, run, run we might have a good first quarter but then they will adjust and the game will get ever so boring watching us go 3 and out when teams start stacking 9 in the box. He has got to find a way to get Crompton comfortable early. But seriously look what he has to work with on offense???
Jonathon Crompton..need I say more.... Hurt..Hancock, Jones and Moore, 3 freshmen WR, 2 Freshmen RB's...then he has a makeshift Offensive line with 2 walk-ons starting and a Redshirt True Freshmen at OT....Not to mention absolutely 0 DEPTH...I dont see how any coach in the league can make that look good??
 
#59
#59
champyvol said:
i have said this before, i put kiffin in the same catergory as a recruiter as satan, but as a coach he is nowhere near. he was a good coordinator with great talant at usc but thats about all he's got. the coordinators before and after him did just as well or better than he did.
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Actually my post had nothing to do with coaching, only recruiting. Saban is an elite coach, i agree, but the truth is the jury is still out on Kiffin. This is his defining Moment, The Tennessee Job, he may be better or worse than Saban only time wil tell. I dont think the Raiders situation is a fair judge of what Kiffin might have done, seeing he wasnt their very long and Al davis being who he is. Now i dont know what you think but i seeing good plays being called and the play being there just that we arent executing them. So i understand that coaching is not only calling the right play but also putting the right staff in place and preparing your players to execute the plays called and Knowing your teams strengths and limitations and getting the best out of what talent you have. I just cant help but feel that there is a ton of yards and plays being left on the field, due to poor passing accuracy, poor timing, dropped passes , missed assignments , but i feel like the plays Kiffin has called for the most part are there our players just haven't converted on them. I think that its only reasonable at this time to give Coack Kiffin the benefit of the doubt and time wil tell, that is for sure.
 
#60
#60
TennesseePride said:
You've lost faith this soon... Geez..

Your one of those people that quit in Madden or Ncaa when some goes up a touchdown aren't cha..
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not all faith bro, but some. not like playing video games i can control how i play. only thing i can do on saturday is sit back and watch the trainwreck
 
#61
#61
champyvol said:
not all faith bro, but some. not like playing video games i can control how i play. only thing i can do on saturday is sit back and watch the trainwreck
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Nobody is forcing you to watch the Vols. If you don't like watching them, find another team...

V,B
 
#62
#62
MUR73 said:
Actually my post had nothing to do with coaching, only recruiting. Saban is an elite coach, i agree, but the truth is the jury is still out on Kiffin. This is his defining Moment, The Tennessee Job, he may be better or worse than Saban only time wil tell. I dont think the Raiders situation is a fair judge of what Kiffin might have done, seeing he wasnt their very long and Al davis being who he is. Now i dont know what you think but i seeing good plays being called and the play being there just that we arent executing them. So i understand that coaching is not only calling the right play but also putting the right staff in place and preparing your players to execute the plays called and Knowing your teams strengths and limitations and getting the best out of what talent you have. I just cant help but feel that there is a ton of yards and plays being left on the field, due to poor passing accuracy, poor timing, dropped passes , missed assignments , but i feel like the plays Kiffin has called for the most part are there our players just haven't converted on them. I think that its only reasonable at this time to give Coack Kiffin the benefit of the doubt and time wil tell, that is for sure.
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i can agree with most of that, except for the play calling in the ucla game witch i thought was horrible, and kiffin even said wasn't good. i wouldn't judge him on the raiders job alone nobody can win with al davis looking over your shoulder. people on this board continue to compare him to satan and there is noway you can make a comparison to a great coach like that. what we have is a mystery that has started out pretty bad, it may get better, i just wouldn't bet on it. the team is showing no improvement and is fighting on the sidelines, also all the positive news surrounding the program is gone after losing games we should have won. satan and meyer took ther lumps, but they were never getting laughed at by most of the country. reason being is because they already had proven themselves as coaches.
 
#66
#66
champyvol said:
not all faith bro, but some. not like playing video games i can control how i play. only thing i can do on saturday is sit back and watch the trainwreck
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dude...relax...breathe...count to ten. Ok we arent going to lose all of our recruits and sign 5 players next year. We arent going to go winless. Kiffin isnt any worse than Richt Spurrier Johnson or that guy at kentucky RIGHT NOW. let em coach at least 1 season before we go throwing faith out the window.
 
#67
#67
VOLinthaATL said:
No offense champ but if the Vols were 5-0 right now you would find something to ***** about...it's your style...
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kiffin best college win is against ohio, give me a break. we are 2-3 nothing you say is going to change that. i take it you were one of the guys back in the day that we used to go back and forth on fulmer. good call.
 
#68
#68
champyvol said:
kiffin best college win is against ohio, give me a break. we are 2-3 nothing you say is going to change that. i take it you were one of the guys back in the day that we used to go back and forth on fulmer. good call.
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All im saying is this ship isnt gonna be righted in 5 games it is gonna take some time and give him a chance to be successful or fail. Im not asking you to drink a Gallon of Orange Koolaid but u may need to sip on some Orange Tea to calm your nerves a bit.
 
#69
#69
alwaysorange81 said:
dude...relax...breathe...count to ten. Ok we arent going to lose all of our recruits and sign 5 players next year. We arent going to go winless. Kiffin isnt any worse than Richt Spurrier Johnson or that guy at kentucky RIGHT NOW. let em coach at least 1 season before we go throwing faith out the window.
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i can agree with most of this. right now i think the johnson city squirrel may have the edge on kiffin, but that should change in upcoming years. i didn't say we were going to lose all our recruits, just said with the way we are playing and the negative pub i expect to lose some. the breathing thing only works till gametime then reality sets in. not really panic more just peeved.
 
#70
#70
MUR73 said:
All im saying is this ship isnt gonna be righted in 5 games it is gonna take some time and give him a chance to be successful or fail. Im not asking you to drink a Gallon of Orange Koolaid but u may need to sip on some Orange Tea to calm your nerves a bit.
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i usually drink buffalo trace before games. does help with the nerves some.:rock:
 
#71
#71
Negative Pub ????? I considered our football players being arrested for violence and drugs negative pub....Not much of that anymore....A player who just cannot get with the program is gone...negative pub, From where i sit this ship is getting tightened up rather quickly.
 
#72
#72
champyvol said:
kiffin best college win is against ohio, give me a break. we are 2-3 nothing you say is going to change that. i take it you were one of the guys back in the day that we used to go back and forth on fulmer. good call.
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You take wrong...just sayin...
 
#73
#73
champyvol said:
now to me this isn't even a debate. kiffin has 5 or 6 wins as a head coach between college and pro. satan rebuilt lsu, rebuilt bama. come on bro your reaching. to me this statement alone shows how blind you are because your so in love with kiffin. which is ok. up till the ucla game i was right along with you. then i saw his coaching skills in action and knew there was a problem. i also don't think the talant gap is as bad as you say it is. there are 4 star players all over the field for tennessee. i personally think kiffin is happy to write the season off till he has superior talant to everybody else. only problem with that is that i'm not sure it will happen in the sec. i'm not saying i'm right here, just stating some opinion. i was called crazy when i called for fulmers head 5 years ago, look how that turned out. i'm not calling for kiffin head, but i have lost alot of faith in him as a coach.
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No offense but Saban who you are speaking so highly of had a rocky start as HC of Mich State and did take a little to turn a Bama team around with more talent than this Tennessee team has currently. We haven't even given Kiffin a full season to turn it around but to each his own.
 
#75
#75
DaddyChad said:
No offense but Saban who you are speaking so highly of had a rocky start as HC of Mich State and did take a little to turn a Bama team around with more talent than this Tennessee team has currently. We haven't even given Kiffin a full season to turn it around but to each his own.
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mich st and tennessee, come on bro not even in the same ballpark. 1 year to turn around a bad tide team. i believe he did find away to finish 500 in his first year. also satan was a proven coach by the time he hit the big money jobs, lsu and bama. what he did at mich st was remarkable.
 
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