Did we lose any recruits since saturday?

#76
#76
shenvalvol said:
Negative Pub ????? I considered our football players being arrested for violence and drugs negative pub....Not much of that anymore....A player who just cannot get with the program is gone...negative pub, From where i sit this ship is getting tightened up rather quickly.
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newspapers espn just about any sports show in america. nothing good to say about our program, yep i call that negative pub. click over to espn.com there is lane center stage. you were saying.
 
#77
#77
champyvol said:
mich st and tennessee, come on bro not even in the same ballpark. 1 year to turn around a bad tide team. i believe he did find away to finish 500 in his first year. also satan was a proven coach by the time he hit the big money jobs, lsu and bama. what he did at mich st was remarkable.
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Then you should allow CLK the same opportunity. Shut up till at least next year.
 
#85
#85
NochNoch said:
So, he shouldn't be fired but he should be condemned for how he finished a season that isn't over yet? Did I get that right?
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no more for his coaching and no improvement in the team. hell i would feel better if the players ran the right routes and blocking patterns. that would be something. like i said these are not his players and the talant isn't the greatest, but come on the team has to improve somewhat that is what coaches do right. i mean i give the defense a break because they are not great but most of the time they look like they atleast know what they are doing. on offense it is just ugly, and i'm tired of hearing excuses. the guy is suppose to be a offensive guru, its just funny he hasn't shown any glimpses yet, except for WKU. i'm sure lane probably agrees he hasn't lived up to the billing but atleast show some improvement
 
#86
#86
champyvol said:
lane looks like he is on his way to a 5-7 or 4-8 campaign. thats not 500. plus there is no improvement in the team.
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You can polish a turd all you want, but it's still a turd. That's exactly what The Fired Coach left behind.
 
#87
#87
champyvol said:
hell i would feel better if the players ran the right routes and blocking patterns.
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Don't disagree with you here, the WRs have been the one area where I have acknowleged disappointment as well. Even if Crompton can't get it to them they should be getting better at running the correct routes and being in position. If CLKs comments to the media are true, that is still a struggle.

However, I would say this team has improved in other areas. They have managed to run the ball quasi effectively with an absolute skeleton crew of a line. And maybe this isn't a big enough of a improvement for you to acknowledge but the lack of penalties is equally gratifying to me.

Has Kiffin proven he can do it yet? Absolutely not. But if he continues to recruit the way he has been so far, I see a lot signs that point to a future of really disciplined teams that will excel at running the ball. Add to that a QB who can consistently hit a crossing route and a WR or two who is in the right place at the right time and I think we might all be pretty happy with that result.
 
#88
#88
champyvol said:
doesn't take a wizard to see where this season is going.
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maybe not, but i do have a friend with learning disabilities that totally understands rebuilding from a weak position.. in all fairness he found a way to get a degree
 
#89
#89
champyvol said:
now to me this isn't even a debate. kiffin has 5 or 6 wins as a head coach between college and pro. satan rebuilt lsu, rebuilt bama. come on bro your reaching. to me this statement alone shows how blind you are because your so in love with kiffin. which is ok. up till the ucla game i was right along with you. then i saw his coaching skills in action and knew there was a problem. i also don't think the talant gap is as bad as you say it is. there are 4 star players all over the field for tennessee. i personally think kiffin is happy to write the season off till he has superior talant to everybody else. only problem with that is that i'm not sure it will happen in the sec. i'm not saying i'm right here, just stating some opinion. i was called crazy when i called for fulmers head 5 years ago, look how that turned out. i'm not calling for kiffin head, but i have lost alot of faith in him as a coach.
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We're playing how many true freshmen? How many walkons? How many guys are playing injured? Crompton is a five star, you saying there's no excuse for us not having a top notch passing game with him? As for Saban, you want to say he's clearly a better coach, not just recruiter. He did an excellent job at LSU his first year going 8-4. At Michigan State and Bama he didn't do much his first years (6-5 and 7-6). I'm not sure why Nick Saban gets to lose to Louisiana Monre, but Kiffin can't lose to a couple of undefeated teams without being a moron.
 
#90
#90
champyvol said:
on offense it is just ugly, and i'm tired of hearing excuses. the guy is suppose to be a offensive guru, its just funny he hasn't shown any glimpses yet, except for WKU. i'm sure lane probably agrees he hasn't lived up to the billing but atleast show some improvement
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Clawson was supposed to be an offensive guru and didn't do jack. Same deal with Cutcliffe, but he couldn't create a decent rushing attack for the Vols. Bama in 2007 made some pretty boneheaded mistakes on offense that cost them to lose some games. Guess that's not relevant.
 
#91
#91
kptvol said:
We're playing how many true freshmen? How many walkons? How many guys are playing injured? Crompton is a five star, you saying there's no excuse for us not having a top notch passing game with him? As for Saban, you want to say he's clearly a better coach, not just recruiter. He did an excellent job at LSU his first year going 8-4. At Michigan State and Bama he didn't do much his first years (6-5 and 7-6). I'm not sure why Nick Saban gets to lose to Louisiana Monre, but Kiffin can't lose to a couple of undefeated teams without being a moron.
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Rivals has Crompton a 4* but he plays like he shouldnt be rated but i just know one thing is we are playing tons of freshman and walk ons

take a look for yourself.
 
#92
#92
kptvol said:
We're playing how many true freshmen? How many walkons? How many guys are playing injured? Crompton is a five star, you saying there's no excuse for us not having a top notch passing game with him? As for Saban, you want to say he's clearly a better coach, not just recruiter. He did an excellent job at LSU his first year going 8-4. At Michigan State and Bama he didn't do much his first years (6-5 and 7-6). I'm not sure why Nick Saban gets to lose to Louisiana Monre, but Kiffin can't lose to a couple of undefeated teams without being a moron.
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The real problem is that he is keeping the Vols in the game. Maybe he should just play to get blown out.

This team doesn't quit. They are much more physical than they have been. That is a tribute to the personality of this coaching staff. Period.
 
#93
#93
champyvol said:
lane looks like he is on his way to a 5-7 or 4-8 campaign. thats not 500. plus there is no improvement in the team.
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So we play Auburn to about the same point margin as last year. You say Auburn has improved but we haven't.
 
#95
#95
Lexvol said:
The real problem is that he is keeping the Vols in the game. Maybe he should just play to get blown out.

This team doesn't quit. They are much more physical than they have been. That is a tribute to the personality of this coaching staff. Period.
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I feel like losing games in the fourth quarter is an improvement over losing them in the first and second quarters. If you were 10 minutes to the game in 2008, you might have already missed the opposition's starters.

Also, I'm not really a fan of "quality losses" but I'd say the quality of UCLA and Auburn has definitely gone up since 2008. Florida really hasn't, but at least we made that a game.
 
#96
#96
kptvol said:
I feel like losing games in the fourth quarter is an improvement over losing them in the first and second quarters. If you were 10 minutes to the game in 2008, you might have already missed the opposition's starters.
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This team has the same talent with a different personality. Losing hurts, but I haven't been bored watching a game yet this year. It isn't about quality losses. It is actually watchable....even with Crompy under center.
 
#97
#97
Lexvol said:
This team has the same talent with a different personality. Losing hurts, but I haven't been bored watching a game yet this year. It isn't about quality losses. It is actually watchable....even with Crompy under center.
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Me either, and that in and of itself is a huge difference from last year. Last year's Auburn game could be the most boring game I have seen in quite some time.
 
#98
#98
champyvol said:
mich st and tennessee, come on bro not even in the same ballpark. 1 year to turn around a bad tide team. i believe he did find away to finish 500 in his first year. also satan was a proven coach by the time he hit the big money jobs, lsu and bama. what he did at mich st was remarkable.
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SEC and Big Ten aren't in the same ball park as far as competition either. You haven't given Kiffin a full year even and you're already doubting him? With what we have at WR and QB what are you honestly expecting? The jury is still out on Lane but I'm going to give him a chance to get some players before I write him off. Do you not think this offense looks better than last year?
 
#99
#99
It seems like we have a major case of the the "Whine Flu" going around. We have just got to suck it up, take our lumps this year and in 3 years we are a SEC contender.
 
#100
#100
kptvol said:
So we play Auburn to about the same point margin as last year. You say Auburn has improved but we haven't.
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Well the last touchdown was a garbage touchdown. We scored with no time left on the clock. I am not even sure Auburn had their starters on the field. It was basically a 10 point loss.
 
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