Difference between Felix vs Aidoo

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Lefteye said:
Curious the boards thoughts on the differences between the two. My eyes see Felix as more athletic and active than Aidoo. I’m also not sure Aidoo has lifted a weight since he decided to leave Knoxville. To be clear, I don’t necessarily think Felix is a ton better… just think his motor revs higher than Aidont.

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Felix plays for UT and Aidoo doesn’t!
 
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BreatheUT said:
Let's just keep in mind when we discuss both, the they seem to be good character guys. You always want good guys to do well.....just not against us.

With that said, Okpara seems more steady off his feet to collect a lob with authority. Aidoo has a more versatile game but it disappears too often.
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Aidoo’s game disappeared completely when money was waved in front of him.
 
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pimo1 said:
In this matchup AIdoo won.. by a lot.

Okpura contributed 10 and 4 on 50% shooting.thats actually close to normal except for the low fg% (he's averaging 7 and 6 on 62%). Aidoo went 4 points 5 boards and shot 66% bombed on the freethrow line. Sounds like I'm losing this argument huh? But, he had 2 steals and 3 blocks with 2 fouls.. those are crazy nice numbers for his role. Flip them on rosters and this game is more like 90-40 instead of 76-52.

Losing Awaka and Aidoo sucks badly. That being said I think we won overall in the exchange because the guys we brought in fit well and I think Dubar gets better as the season goes on. We traded AIdoo and Awaka for Okpara that's a push because between what Okpara brings and how Philips has stepped up we are actually in a slightly better situation when you factor in Milicic who replaced JJJ. Lanier for DK so far is a wash also if you factor in Gaineys improvement. Dubar,if he can step up, is what makes the difference here. I think he can and will. Phillips is my low key MVP this season as far as my expectations and his delivery.
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Just my opinion, but this is reaching. If you're going to do that kind of bob and weave then you must account for the number of times Adioo was out of position and got beat back door.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
I am not sure Cade Phillips is not better than both of them.
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CP Definitely has a higher ceiling but a bit of height difference but CP makes up for it with a non stop motor and cleans up around the rim and has a fast twitch leap.
I think Aidoo would be sadder on this team than last years, especially if he thought he wasn't being used to his potential. His playing time would have went down with this roster IMO.
 
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If Aidoo could learn to walk and chew gum at the same time he’d make the league. His biggest issue is he can either get position on his man OR be ready to take the inlet pass. He can either box out OR rebound. He can’t seem to figure out how to do both.
He’s a good on ball defender and has a decent shot that should have improved more. Great shot blocker. One of the best passers for a big man. He’s one of those players that just seems to be sitting so close to becoming great, but never quite gets there.

Okpara is a hard worker that makes up for some of his skill deficiency with effort. He’s going to have some nights where his matchup causes some foul trouble but he seems to know the line. Put the lob close and he’ll grab it and dunk it. He knows how to close off his side of the lane for the driver and is rarely out of position. He seems to know he’s not a shooter and doesn’t try to be.

Overall I’d take Okpara for what you see today on the court, but understand why there is excitement about Aidoo. If it ever clicks for him he’s the clear winner. As is, Okpara probably contributes more on any team, but absolutely does on a team with a pass first PG.
 
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Thunder Good-Oil said:
Felix pairs up better with ZZ than Aidoo did.
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Yep, a lot of ppl forget all the fumbled passes Aidoo had last year at key times, especially when he faced another 6-11 or taller.
Last year when I looked at the opposing roster, I would think its going to be tough to get a W we are facing a decent BIG. I knew we were toast vs Edey. It was an adventure every time a pass was thrown down low with the fumbling of the pass if he didn't lose it , he lost any advantage the assistor had given him with all the mismatches. The ones he finally gathered didn't go down as turnovers but never produced points.
 
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pimo1 said:
In this matchup AIdoo won.. by a lot.

Okpura contributed 10 and 4 on 50% shooting.thats actually close to normal except for the low fg% (he's averaging 7 and 6 on 62%). Aidoo went 4 points 5 boards and shot 66% bombed on the freethrow line. Sounds like I'm losing this argument huh? But, he had 2 steals and 3 blocks with 2 fouls.. those are crazy nice numbers for his role. Flip them on rosters and this game is more like 90-40 instead of 76-52.

Losing Awaka and Aidoo sucks badly. That being said I think we won overall in the exchange because the guys we brought in fit well and I think Dubar gets better as the season goes on. We traded AIdoo and Awaka for Okpara that's a push because between what Okpara brings and how Philips has stepped up we are actually in a slightly better situation when you factor in Milicic who replaced JJJ. Lanier for DK so far is a wash also if you factor in Gaineys improvement. Dubar,if he can step up, is what makes the difference here. I think he can and will. Phillips is my low key MVP this season as far as my expectations and his delivery.
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cncchris33 said:
Don't confuse skill with production. I think you're perhaps underselling Aidoo's offensive arsenal. The jump hook and mid-range jumper were both a little more prevalent in his Tennessee career than you're admitting as I remember it, but nevertheless, he has those weapons. Okpara doesn't. How many times have you even seen Okpara attempt a shot outside of 2 feet? Good for him that he knows his limitations, but they are just that...limitations. Aidoo is also a very good passing big man, fwiw.
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Aidoo at times would show up in big games and at times he would not.
It was not 50/50 but it was close to 60/40.
Taking a lot for granted because sometimes we ran the offense through Aidoo for the shot and I don't see Okpara in the foulline area making passes or taking shots.
So fair to say two different roles in the Offense and Defense with both playing completely different roles. IOW Aidoo and Okpara have completely different role assignments.
I did not think that Z would take Aidoo to the hole like he did in that game.
 
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scottchatt said:
If Aidoo could learn to walk and chew gum at the same time he’d make the league. His biggest issue is he can either get position on his man OR be ready to take the inlet pass. He can either box out OR rebound. He can’t seem to figure out how to do both.
He’s a good on ball defender and has a decent shot that should have improved more. Great shot blocker. One of the best passers for a big man. He’s one of those players that just seems to be sitting so close to becoming great, but never quite gets there.

Okpara is a hard worker that makes up for some of his skill deficiency with effort. He’s going to have some nights where his matchup causes some foul trouble but he seems to know the line. Put the lob close and he’ll grab it and dunk it. He knows how to close off his side of the lane for the driver and is rarely out of position. He seems to know he’s not a shooter and doesn’t try to be.

Overall I’d take Okpara for what you see today on the court, but understand why there is excitement about Aidoo. If it ever clicks for him he’s the clear winner. As is, Okpara probably contributes more on any team, but absolutely does on a team with a pass first PG.
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Bottom line he is not an offensive liability, is more efficient at his more limited role and most importantly his twitch allows him to better keep the ball pressure up on defense by being able to hedge way out but recover quickly to his rim protection role. Aidoo was often a step too slow created lanes for drivers. Way more late in the clock shots are longer and still under pressure outside thus creating freer access to the boards by our guys, especially Igor, sometimes our smaller guys like Mayshack.

Really like to see comparative numbers on second chance points given up this yr vs last.
 
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kptvol1452 said:
Okpara doesn't try stay away from
Physical game Adioo can't play that game.....Adioo doesn't realize he's
6' 11" only plays the finesse game he's
Soft Go Vols
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I think Aidoo‘s a great kid, funny, and a good teammate. Unfortunately, he’s a guy who really wants to play wing but grew too tall so he gets put in the post. When he comes out to set the screen for the guard he doesn’t want to roll to the basket. He’s more likely to pop out for the 3 if the guard switches onto him. Felix goes straight to the rim every time. He knows he’s not a shooter. Got to the game early enough yesterday to watch the shootaround pregame and Aidoo stood out at the 3 point line shooting 3s the whole time. Felix doesn’t even practice a jump shot. 90% of the time he’s practicing dunks. Range is about 4 feet and he knows it. He may develop more range, but for now, he knows his role. We don’t need any more 3 point shooters on this team. Great coaching by Barnes and buy in from Felix.
 
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Felix is currently shooting 65% on free throws and I thought it was higher before I looked as he has a nice looking stroke. Seems like the ability is there to develop a 12-15’ jump shot although as said earlier, that’s not what we need from him with this team.
 
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Sudden Impact said:
Aidoo at times would show up in big games and at times he would not.
It was not 50/50 but it was close to 60/40.
Taking a lot for granted because sometimes we ran the offense through Aidoo for the shot and I don't see Okpara in the foulline area making passes or taking shots.
So fair to say two different roles in the Offense and Defense with both playing completely different roles. IOW Aidoo and Okpara have completely different role assignments.
I did not think that Z would take Aidoo to the hole like he did in that game.
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I agree they have vastly different roles on offense. On defense, their roles are pretty similar (alter/block shots and rebound).
 
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Walkman said:
Yesterday’s version of Felix is what I was looking for. If we continue to get that kinda play from the post along with Igor’s….Look out, it’s gonna be a great ride in 25!
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Agree. How is he against quality bigs in big games..? So far he’s 1 for 2. Don’t know that Illinois has a quality big, but he didn’t play as well as he did against Arkansas imo. We were up big, but at just over 3:30 in the game yesterday, they threw it in to Aidoo and Felix bullied him out of that comfort zone. Felt like Deja vu from when the razor back was in orange.
 
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cncchris33 said:
You have to be kidding.

Aidoo: 0 ORebs on 33 opportunities.

Okpara and Milicic ate him alive on the boards.

You really have a knack for adopting the contrarian side of most arguments, but to say Aidoo won this battle by a lot is ridiculous.
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the matchup is Okpara Vs Aidoo... Miliocic owned the boards like always neither AIdoo or Okpara are great rebounders. Aidoo dominated on the defensive end. love how you tried to move the goal posts by throwing Igor in there. The only think Okpara did better than Aidoo was shoot more shots and everyone knows that's an aberration. 2 steals and 3 blocks make a lot more difference in a game than 6 points.

Like I said flip their box score numbers the other way around and UT beats Arkansas by 34 instead of 24. AIdoo is coming off injuries and slowly recovering. Would I trade Okpara for him? No but not because of talent. I think that Aidoo is a better basketball player than Okpara. But I am glad he left the team because he obviously wanted out. We killed in the portal. I don't think we missed on any of the guys we added. I just want to be realistic on what we lost.
 
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Lefteye said:
Other than a stray game where he knocks down a 15 footer or 2, can you expand on the “far more offensively skilled”.

Better way to ask the question is who would make the better pro right now? Keeping in mind Aidoos 15 ft jumper only showed up ever 5-7 games, same w the jump hook. His gait is nowhere near the player of Okpara in overall game. Imo
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AIdoo is an NBA prospect right now.. Okpara is not.
 
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LAVol1 said:
IMO, Igor is an upgrade to JJJ. He seems to help the flow of the offense and is a stud rebounder and defender. While JJJ was a stud defender, I think the difference is Igor's length. Phillips, Okpara and Igor > JJJ, Awaka and Aidoo, by a meaningful margin.
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