Dilfer's critique of Dobbs, Ferguson and Bray as QB Prospects

[Volosaurus rex]

TreeGreen, those are all very valid points. However, Tyler's productivity clearly exhibited a "feast-or-famine" cycle that was directly correlated with the caliber of defense against which he was playing.

To answer Freak's question, I absolutely do not consider Tyler to be a student of the game. He would benefit immensely from a couple of weeks of intense film study with the cerebral assassin, Peyton Manning. Because of that 30-06 rifle, Tyler definitely exhibits a gunslinger's mentality. Based on his play, it would seem that he believes that he can squeeze the football into any window, something that, as Dilfer observed, will lead to catastrophic results in the NFL.

Finally, Bray is often looking for the home run when it just isn't there. To borrow a nuggest of Hank Stram-ese, "matriculating the ball downfield" on short, high-percentage passes still gets the ball in the end zone. I have to agree with you, however, on one important point: Tyler must have constantly felt like a cat on a hot tin roof, with no margin for error because of our porous defensive play.

 

[Vol865]

Your opinion is insane. Literally nobody agrees with you and in fact they believe the exact opposite but go ahead and be stubborn with your garbage opinion. Hope it feels good to you.

I agree... Dilfer wouldn't have a ring if it weren't for the best D the Ravens have had
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[soda23]

Definately!! THere is only one football and both can't play q.b. on the field at the same time.

Ainge won the job and Schafer transferred. Manning won the job and Stewart transferred. Crompton won the job and Coleman transferred.

Get the picture? A Q.B. who knows they are good enough to be a starter at the college level will not stay when they know they will never be the starter. They will go elsewhere.

or Bernie Veazy, or Joey Matthews but really talented q.b.'s won't stick around.

Nash has been gone for over a year . Started at Hampden Sydney last year and did pretty well

 

[VOL6479]

Every time I try to go to TN sports radio site it won't load and the screen stays black. why?

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

So,,in other words, you think that the conditions on the hill when Bray arrived, until the day Dooley left were conducive to positive player development. If you honestly believe that, then the only pile of steaming garbage is between your ears. SMH.

Yea that's exactly what I said. Unbelievable.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

Every time I try to go to TN sports radio site it won't load and the screen stays black. why?

Are you at work? I'd guess there is a firewall blocking your ability to stream.

 

[LTVol]

Dilfer won the SB with the Ravens, wasn't he a Buc at one time or another on their run of playoff bound seasons ? Can't remember and to lazy to look it up, still got some work to do.
I think there is a Gruden connection somewhere...

He was drafted by Tampa Bay and played there a coupla years or so. Not very impressive there. Once in his first season he lined up behind the tackle instead of the center. It was hilarious to watch in the game film. Even with Ravens he was just adequate enough at QB that he didnt lose games that were won by the defense. At one time during the SB season they set an NFL record for most consecutive wins without a TD. None of which means necessariy that he is not a good evaluator of QB talent, just was not a very good QB.

 

[UTFanForLife]

So Bray just needs to stay out of pressure situations long enough for owners to think he is good. Worked for Romo.

 

[VOLinthaNATI]

He was drafted by Tampa Bay and played there a coupla years or so. Not very impressive there. Once in his first season he lined up behind the tackle instead of the center. It was hilarious to watch in the game film. Even with Ravens he was just adequate enough at QB that he didnt lose games that were won by the defense. At one time during the SB season they set an NFL record for most consecutive wins without a TD. None of which means necessariy that he is not a good evaluator of QB talent, just was not a very good QB.

So did John Elway. Dude for sure sucked.

 

[CardsNVols]

I agree... Dilfer wouldn't have a ring if it weren't for the best D the Ravens have had
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So what? He still possesses more knowledge of the game, and more specifically, the quarterback position than over 99% of the American people and very likely 100% of the posters on this message board.

 

[Volosaurus rex]

All too frequently, it is the less-than-supremely-talented athletes who become the best analysts and/or coaches, precisely because they had to truly study the game and master their craft in order to maximize their limited skill sets.

 

[jtdavis]

So you don't think that having better leadership from the coaching staff (head coach in particular) over his three year tenure at UT would have made for better results on and off the field?

It's not all Dooley's fault but its not all Tyler's either. Dooley allowed him to be what he was.

I wish bray well but I have a hard time seeing him go too high I the draft. He never won a significant college game and I have to agree with the observation he usually played his worst when the game was on the line.

 

[VolFan4Life87]

Dilfer definitely didn't hold back, that's for sure. He said Bray won't get away with that lack of discipline in the NFL.

I found it interesting that he question he asked of Bray was, can you trust him? Can you trust him in critical situations? He pointed to Bray's play in the UGA game after it was tied up late and the last possession of the Missouri game, when he threw late and missed an open tight end. Dilfer questioned whether Bray thinks differently in big moments than he does under normal circumstances. It's a fair point I think.

But even with all the criticism, he said Bray's film is "really fun to watch".

It was a solid interview IMO.

Question for those in this thread. Do you consider Bray a student of the game?

Can you elaborate a little more on this?

 

[Vol423]

So did John Elway.

Beat me to it.

 

[Vol865]

So what? He still possesses more knowledge of the game, and more specifically, the quarterback position than over 99% of the American people and very likely 100% of the posters on this message board.

I responded to a post where a guy got attacked and told no one agrees with him, when in fact, quite a few do including me. Dilfer was not a very good QB, which was my point. He is very knowledgeable but like I mentioned before he doesn't always know what he is talking about. For example, he didn't think Russell Wilson or RG3 would make it in the NFL.
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