Disney: The Most Evil Business In The World

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utvols88 said:
The others pay the same taxes and abide by the same regulations as anyone else. Disney is the one that had special treatment. Now they don't. The others didn't gain special treatment either.
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I see you’ve never heard of The Villages.

For some odd reason, that special district didn’t face the wrath of DeSantis.
 
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utvols88 said:
That's not a theme park
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And?

If your argument is Disney shouldn’t receive special privileges over other theme parks via the Reedy Creek Improvement District, then surely you can apply that same logic to The Villages receiving special district privileges over other municipalities.

DeSantis will gladly go after Disney publicly because it plays into his POTUS run.

DeSantis didn’t go after The Villages because his base lives there.

Some special districts are more special than others.
 
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Just to be clear, this is exactly what happened:

In the 70s a republican Florida governor met with Disney and struck one of the most advantageous deals any state has ever known.

After explaining to Walt that the state of Florida could not provide services to a massive project in the middle of a swamp they negotiated this deal:

Disney pays all their regular property taxes to the counties in which they reside. In return they ask for nothing back. The state agreed to let them set up a special district known as Reedy Creek to to govern this area. This district has the ability to levy taxes on Disney (above and beyond the regular property taxes they pay). This district uses these taxes to fund roads, infrastructure, etc. The counties that Disney resides in do not provide any services whatsoever, yet still collect full property taxes from Disney.

The autonomy of the district allows them to do things like have qualified engineers give them permits to build an inverted roller coaster, something a local county building inspector would likely take a lifetime to understand and approve.

So in essence, Disney provides their own security, emergency services, power plants, infrastructure, etc at no cost to anyone due to their "double taxation" agreement.

The Reedy Creek improvement board oversaw this district until it was recently disbanded by DeSantis and was replaced his his own hand picked board of republican donors.

Disney's special district has at no time ever been a "tax break" for them despite what Tucker Carlson and others may try to tell you. Their special district status hasn't gone away either. It's still an autonomous district with the ability to tax itself.

The only difference is the board seats are now held by friends of DeSantis. I'm not sure what two lawyers, a preacher and a school board member know about infrastructure but that's who is in charge now.

I don't think that having Republican donors running the district and deciding which pot holes to fill is going to keep any gay characters out of cartoons either. My guess is once the new board members figure out that they're not setting Disney policy, but rather wading through a slog of infrastructure and wastewater management they'll probably move on.

I believe this was all negotiated behind the scenes once Iger came back and that's why you haven't heard any objections from Disney. Business as usual.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Just to be clear, this is exactly what happened:

In the 70s a republican Florida governor met with Disney and struck one of the most advantageous deals any state has ever known.

After explaining to Walt that the state of Florida could not provide services to a massive project in the middle of a swamp they negotiated this deal:

Disney pays all their regular property taxes to the counties in which they reside. In return they ask for nothing back. The state agreed to let them set up a special district known as Reedy Creek to to govern this area. This district has the ability to levy taxes on Disney (above and beyond the regular property taxes they pay). This district uses these taxes to fund roads, infrastructure, etc. The counties that Disney resides in do not provide any services whatsoever, yet still collect full property taxes from Disney.

The autonomy of the district allows them to do things like have qualified engineers give them permits to build an inverted roller coaster, something a local county building inspector would likely take a lifetime to understand and approve.

So in essence, Disney provides their own security, emergency services, power plants, infrastructure, etc at no cost to anyone due to their "double taxation" agreement.

The Reedy Creek improvement board oversaw this district until it was recently disbanded by DeSantis and was replaced his his own hand picked board of republican donors.

Disney's special district has at no time ever been a "tax break" for them despite what Tucker Carlson and others may try to tell you. Their special district status hasn't gone away either. It's still an autonomous district with the ability to tax itself.

The only difference is the board seats are now held by friends of DeSantis. I'm not sure what two lawyers, a preacher and a school board member know about infrastructure but that's who is in charge now.

I don't think that having Republican donors running the district and deciding which pot holes to fill is going to keep any gay characters out of cartoons either. My guess is once the new board members figure out that they're not setting Disney policy, but rather wading through a slog of infrastructure and wastewater management they'll probably move on.

I believe this was all negotiated behind the scenes once Iger came back and that's why you haven't heard any objections from Disney. Business as usual.
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Ding, Ding, Ding. DeSantis panders and life for Disney is unchanged. Removing the special district placing the Disney property under the governance of Orange County would have been disastrous for those citizens and DeSantis and he knows it.
 
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MurphyVol said:
Just to be clear, this is exactly what happened:

In the 70s a republican Florida governor met with Disney and struck one of the most advantageous deals any state has ever known.

After explaining to Walt that the state of Florida could not provide services to a massive project in the middle of a swamp they negotiated this deal:

Disney pays all their regular property taxes to the counties in which they reside. In return they ask for nothing back. The state agreed to let them set up a special district known as Reedy Creek to to govern this area. This district has the ability to levy taxes on Disney (above and beyond the regular property taxes they pay). This district uses these taxes to fund roads, infrastructure, etc. The counties that Disney resides in do not provide any services whatsoever, yet still collect full property taxes from Disney.

The autonomy of the district allows them to do things like have qualified engineers give them permits to build an inverted roller coaster, something a local county building inspector would likely take a lifetime to understand and approve.

So in essence, Disney provides their own security, emergency services, power plants, infrastructure, etc at no cost to anyone due to their "double taxation" agreement.

The Reedy Creek improvement board oversaw this district until it was recently disbanded by DeSantis and was replaced his his own hand picked board of republican donors.

Disney's special district has at no time ever been a "tax break" for them despite what Tucker Carlson and others may try to tell you. Their special district status hasn't gone away either. It's still an autonomous district with the ability to tax itself.

The only difference is the board seats are now held by friends of DeSantis. I'm not sure what two lawyers, a preacher and a school board member know about infrastructure but that's who is in charge now.

I don't think that having Republican donors running the district and deciding which pot holes to fill is going to keep any gay characters out of cartoons either. My guess is once the new board members figure out that they're not setting Disney policy, but rather wading through a slog of infrastructure and wastewater management they'll probably move on.

I believe this was all negotiated behind the scenes once Iger came back and that's why you haven't heard any objections from Disney. Business as usual.
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Lawrence Wright said:
And?

If your argument is Disney shouldn’t receive special privileges over other theme parks via the Reedy Creek Improvement District, then surely you can apply that same logic to The Villages receiving special district privileges over other municipalities.

DeSantis will gladly go after Disney publicly because it plays into his POTUS run.

DeSantis didn’t go after The Villages because his base lives there.

Some special districts are more special than others.
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I stopped reading at "And?". The OP asked about the other theme parks. I answered based on that. Your red herring attempt is noted though.
 
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utvols88 said:
I stopped reading at "And?". The OP asked about the other theme parks. I answered based on that. Your red herring attempt is noted though.
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What you're asking is stupid. Other theme parks didn't take the risk Disney did. Before Disney... Orlando was essentially a military base in the swamplands of central florida. A population of 50k and one attraction - Gatorland which was a wildlife preserve. Disney took the risk and made Orlando a destination and for taking that risk they were given a certain degree of freedom.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
/thread
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Nope, this thread will not close until January 2033 when President DeSantis completes his second term and retires to a free and prosperous nation with the gratitude of millions ringing in his ears
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Sorry, I thought this was the DeSantis thread
 
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ClearwaterVol said:
What you're asking is stupid. Other theme parks didn't take the risk Disney did. Before Disney... Orlando was essentially a military base in the swamplands of central florida. A population of 50k and one attraction - Gatorland which was a wildlife preserve. Disney took the risk and made Orlando a destination and for taking that risk they were given a certain degree of freedom.
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I didn't ask anything.
 
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Lawrence Wright said:
I see you’ve never heard of The Villages.

For some odd reason, that special district didn’t face the wrath of DeSantis.
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They vote at among the highest percentage of any area in the state. And they vote overwhelmingly Republican. DeSantis may be many things, but he ain’t no dummy
 
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Universal and Sea World got Florida to redraw boundaries for several income tax and job credit programs. It's a different benefit than what Disney is getting but still a significant benefit...
 
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Disney is Struggling to attract bookings for new Star Wars hotel which sees guests pay up to $20,000 for two day immersive 'voyage' after guests balked at shocking prices

  • Disney's immersive Star Wars hotel is struggling to attract guests

Disney is rearranging the schedule of its billion-dollar Star Wars themed hotel due to low demand.

The hotel, which opened in March 2022 in the Orlando-area to much fanfare and sold out 'voyages,' charges guests anywhere between $5,000 and $20,000 for an immersive two-night experience in which they are thrust into a story taking place in a galaxy far far away.

Among the price gauging going on inside the hotel include, $13 beers and $23 cocktails as well as $99 for an official Star Wars themed photo, The New York Times reported at the time the park opened.

Disney is struggling to attract bookings for new Star Wars hotel which sees guests pay up to $20,000 | Daily Mail Online
 
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#268
Disney Faces HUGE Shakeup as CEO Bob Iger vows to spend LESS on making movies and TV, calls for fewer Marvel sequels and weighs up the Sale of its Hulu Streamer to cut costs

  • It comes after Disney announced 7,000 layoffs to cut back on costs in the entertainment and ESPN divisions
Disney boss Bob Iger has vowed to cut costs across the billion-dollar company as it makes promises to spend less on making new movies and TV shows as the fate of Hulu remains unclear.

The changes are part of the company's plans to navigate the new media environment and decline of linear TV, a theatrical film business with an uncertain future and a growing streaming business.

Disney boss Bob Iger vows to spend LESS on making new movies and TV to rein in costs | Daily Mail Online
 
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Franklin Pierce said:
Disney is Struggling to attract bookings for new Star Wars hotel which sees guests pay up to $20,000 for two day immersive 'voyage' after guests balked at shocking prices

  • Disney's immersive Star Wars hotel is struggling to attract guests

Disney is rearranging the schedule of its billion-dollar Star Wars themed hotel due to low demand.

The hotel, which opened in March 2022 in the Orlando-area to much fanfare and sold out 'voyages,' charges guests anywhere between $5,000 and $20,000 for an immersive two-night experience in which they are thrust into a story taking place in a galaxy far far away.

Among the price gauging going on inside the hotel include, $13 beers and $23 cocktails as well as $99 for an official Star Wars themed photo, The New York Times reported at the time the park opened.

Disney is struggling to attract bookings for new Star Wars hotel which sees guests pay up to $20,000 | Daily Mail Online
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Billion dollar investment asking for 20K? What an idiot
 
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n_huffhines said:
The culture war has deranged people.

I can't take credit for this, but somebody said that "woke" being used as a pejorative is almost always a replacement for a complaint that would sound silly if you actually clearly defined it. Like the other day when Fox News ran this story:

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It's much better to turn off your brain and call it "woke" because it sounds really, really stupid to explicitly complain that Lego made toys for kids with disabilities.
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Conservative author who wrote a book about wokeness cannot define wokeness.

"This is gonna be one of those moments that go viral."

 
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n_huffhines said:
Conservative author who wrote a book about wokeness cannot define wokeness.

"This is gonna be one of those moments that go viral."

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Woke is nothing more than the new trigger word for the right wing now that "liberal" isn't the insult they so desperately tried to make it for decades, "libtard" didn't play that well in focus groups, and "socialist/Marxist" was to easily proven dumb.
Woke is the new coded insult...the great divider......it's now the woke vs good honest hard working true Americans. As soon as someone uses the term in an insulting and derogatory way, you know exactly what you are dealing with. It is the verbal equivalent of the red hat.
 
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luthervol said:
Woke is nothing more than the new trigger word for the right wing now that "liberal" isn't the insult they so desperately tried to make it for decades, "libtard" didn't play that well in focus groups, and "socialist/Marxist" was to easily proven dumb.
Woke is the new coded insult...the great divider......it's now the woke vs good honest hard working true Americans. As soon as someone uses the term in an insulting and derogatory way, you know exactly what you are dealing with. It is the verbal equivalent of the red hat.
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LOL

But when Brain Dead Puddin-head calls me a MAGA Republican, I am really really hurt.
 
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OrangeTsar said:
I don’t know. Can you define the term for us?
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I think different people have different working definitions.
I was curious if the person I asked defined himself as one.
To me:
- If you voted for Trump in the 2016 primary (and stick by that vote), you 100% are
- If you believe the 2020 election was stolen, you are
- If you believe there was little wrong with the whole Jan. 6 thing, you are
- If you believe democrats are out to destroy our country, you are
- If you think MTG does more good than harm, you are
 
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