Disney: The Most Evil Business In The World

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volbound1700 said:
Clearly Star Wars has been a disaster, here are Youtube videos about the issues:
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That is ridiculous. It has not been "a disaster", where it matters the most ... at the box office.

As I previously pointed out with a linked source ... 4 of the top 17 movies of all time, in domestic gross, are Star Wars films produced since Disney acquired the franchise in 2012. This includes the #1 film of all time - The Force Awakens (2015).
 
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volbound1700 said:
There is a lot rumors that Star Wars has gone so bad that there are discussions to even sell LucasArts. Clearly Star Wars has been a disaster, here are Youtube videos about the issues:
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Disney breaks 'Star Wars' movie drought with 3 new films including the return of Daisy Ridley

Disney shut down Lucas Arts in 2013. If you are talking about Disney selling Lucasfilms, they just announced 3 days ago that they are producing 3 new live action Star Wars movies. Now, I ask you ... Does it really sound like they are selling the franchise any time soon?
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Top Lifetime Grosses - Box Office Mojo

#1, #12, #16 and #17. What a catastrophe.
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You clearly didn't read my post. People showed up to TFA because it was the first Star Wars movie since Rogue One. Heck, it was the height of the Franchise for the time being. The drop off was not seen until after TLJ. Show the numbers for the Return of Skywalker? Solo? Bobba Fett?

The drop off over the course of each movie is noteworthy.
 
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volbound1700 said:
You clearly didn't read my post. People showed up to TFA because it was the first Star Wars movie since Rogue One. Heck, it was the height of the Franchise for the time being. The drop off was not seen until after TLJ. Show the numbers for the Return of Skywalker? Solo? Bobba Fett?

The drop off over the course of each movie is noteworthy.
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Both Rogue One and The Rise of Skywalker had domestic grosses of more than $500 million, which puts them at #16 and #17 respectively, of all time. For all of its production problems and not being a story that was in demand, Solo still grossed over $200 million domestically.

There will always be some drop off after the original film in a trilogy. That was also the case with the original trilogy. You said that Disney was considering selling "Lucas Arts" - which no longer exists. I assume you meant Lucasfilm, but that is just wrong. Disney announced just 3 days ago that they are producing 3 more live action Star Wars films, including one with Daisy Ridley as Rey. You are wrong all over the place with this narrative.
 
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Solo cost $275MM to make. It needed to gross over $550MM to make a profit. And that is assuming 0 marketing costs.

Solo was a 9 figure bomb for Disney...
 
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BigOrangeMojo said:
Solo cost $275MM to make. It needed to gross over $550MM to make a profit. And that is assuming 0 marketing costs.

Solo was a 9 figure bomb for Disney...
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@BowlBrother is definitely in denial. When every public comment is out about Star Wars losing fan support and Disney struggling, you want to say they are doing alright is crazy.

I could buy an argument that Wokeness may NOT be the ultimately problem (it probably doesn't help with some audience but I feel like that would impact the animated studios more than Marvel/Star Wars). I think Disney writing just isn't that good right now. They have been there and done that in the past. Disney really struggled in the 1980s until Little Mermaid came out in 1989.

I find very few people who would classify Disney Star Wars as good or successful... Marvel is still raking in the $$$ but even they are showing a slight decline. I think it is different than Star Wars in that I feel like Disney has gone back too many times to the Marvel well and it is just drying up/getting stale.
 
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Arguing TFA as evidence that Star Wars is doing good is like arguing ticket sales for the first 2-3 games of Dooley years are good. We haven't seen the bad quality yet :D. Once it hits, the ticket sales plummet.
 
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volbound1700 said:
@BowlBrother is definitely in denial. When every public comment is out about Star Wars losing fan support and Disney struggling, you want to say they are doing alright is crazy.
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You are ignorant.

Where is fan support most revealed? On YouTube? Or at the box office? How many times do I have to point this out? 4 of the top 17 domestic grossing movies of all time are Star Wars movies that have been produced since Disney acquired the franchise.

You said that Disney was considering selling rights to the franchise, when they just announced 3 days ago that they are producing 3 new live action Star Wars movies, including one with Daisy Ridley as Rey.

You are just wrong.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
You are ignorant.

Where is fan support most revealed? On YouTube? Or at the box office? How many times do I have to point this out? 4 of the top 17 domestic grossing movies of all time are Star Wars movies that have been produced since Disney acquired the franchise.

You said that Disney was considering selling rights to the franchise, when they just announced 3 days ago that they are producing 3 new live action Star Wars movies, including one with Daisy Ridley as Rey.

You are just wrong.
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You clearly didn't even watch the videos but alright...
 
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volbound1700 said:
Arguing TFA as evidence that Star Wars is doing good is like arguing ticket sales for the first 2-3 games of Dooley years are good. We haven't seen the bad quality yet :D. Once it hits, the ticket sales plummet.
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I am obviously talking about the fact that it is the highest domestic grossing movie in history. You are trying to change the subject to the quality of the films ... and your analogy with football is just stupid. In the film industry, the bottom line is revenue. That is obviously not true in sports.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Your YouTube videos do not supersede box office gross. You are wanting to change the discussion to the quality of the content.
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I already dispelled your comment. You showed my data that each movie has declined dramatically in sells since TFA and TLJ. Your own data shows that!
 
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volbound1700 said:
We haven't seen the bad quality yet :D. Once it hits, the ticket sales plummet.
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History has revealed that the quality of these films is basically meaningless. People will pay to see them. Hell, according to you, Disney was considering selling the franchise ... even though they just announced 3 more films. LOL.
 
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volbound1700 said:
I already dispelled your comment. You showed my data that each movie has declined dramatically in sells since TFA and TLJ. Your own data shows that!
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... and there was a drop off from A New Hope to The Empire Strikes Back .... and from The Empire Strikes Back to Return of the Jedi.

That is normal and to be expected in a trilogy series.

You are just wrong with pretty much everything here.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
History has revealed that the quality of these films is basically meaningless. People will pay to see them. Hell, according to you, Disney was considering selling the franchise ... even though they just announced 3 more films. LOL.
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They have been announcing films for years that never saw the light of day Lucasfilm Cancels 2 Upcoming Star Wars Movies (Report). The videos point that out if you would watch it. Announcing movies doesn't mean jack, in fact it shows more desperation than anything.

However, you already got your opinion made up. Typically closed-minded internet troll. You only read posts enough to counter and not to actually listen.
 
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volbound1700 said:
You can examine Youtube and see video after video about how the Mario movie is breaking records and is major shot fired against Disney. Nintendo World has opened with Universal in Japan and is a success. It may not be long before we see Nintendo World being put in Orlando to directly compete with Disney and I think it will.
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Not sure if you knew or not, but there is a Nintendo World being built in Orlando right now. Construction started mid 2021 and the new park is set to open Summer 2025.
 
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volbound1700 said:
They have been announcing films for years that never saw the light of day Lucasfilm Cancels 2 Upcoming Star Wars Movies (Report). The videos point that out if you would watch it. Announcing movies doesn't mean jack, in fact it shows more desperation than anything.

However, you already got your opinion made up. Typically closed-minded internet troll. You only read posts enough to counter and not to actually listen.
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What was scrapped was the attempt to branch out the franchise away from the Jedi/Sith realm .... It reflected a change in the creative plan. Disney has always persisted that there would be more films. The bottom line is that they are profitable. Your posts here have been ignorant.
 
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