Disney: The Most Evil Business In The World

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BreatheUT said:
This is you dream scenario but on the continuum both are much higher on the good leadership totem that the democrats can muster. This world and the US has suffered in the hands of the Biden Administration and democrat leadership over the past two years.

Wars and rumors of wars have broken out.

Our southern border is a sieve.

Banks are collapsing.

The value of the dollar is in decline

Inflation has been as much as 8% -9% hurting real wages and making raises null

Countries proceeding with threats to abandon it in trade

Our enemies and mutually beneficial partners are coalescing around each other.

The citizens 1st and 2nd amendment rights are being threatened

The Biden Administration is pulling a Woodrow Wilson and turning the DOJ into a weapon against its political enemies. A current Democrat party platform.

Unqualified people are being hired because they check certain physical characteristics or social requirements

There has been 0 accountability for Afghanistan

They allowed a Chinese spy balloon to fly across the continental US

Biden makes no sense 60% of the time with a dramatic decrease in sensory and motor skills even before elected

Harris might be the worst VP of all time

The rest of the deep state cabinet is not much better.

We've had environmental disaster after environmental disaster.

Their hiring requirements for aviation and pilots appear to be just as Woke with a check the box question like "are you black"...then you're hired.

In the last two years it's been reported that more planes have almost hit each other then I ever remember

Supply chain shortages

A steady rise in racial tensions instead of the false claim of bringing Americans together.

No attempt to find out the origins of COVID-19

More 3rd world voting style irregularities to put elections at risk. Even in business the worse the processes and systems the more you can muddy the waters of corruption.

It goes on and on.

We get that you are a leftist with a European style world view. No one is going to change your mind. You only comment on things that you think tilt in one direction, or if a conversation goes in the opposite direction you abandon it.

Your best hope is Robert Kennedy Jr who appears to a fine man. Something democrats are lacking in the "if there wasn't for a lack of values we would have no values at all" party.
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Most of this is abject nonsense. I could go through it point by point--but you're not worth the time and effort.
 
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#502
It must be hard being a Maga these days. They don't like anybody or anything--so corrupted have they become by the gangster and all
the nonsense spewed by right-wing bloggers/radio, etc.

Let's see:

They don't like schools, or colleges, or education generally--mostly because they are not educated themselves, which is essentially why they're Maga in
the first place, as without education it is hard to separate fact from fiction.

They don't like the FBI, the Justice Department, Education Dept., ERA, the IRS or government generally.

They don't like the media--as stories that conflict with their uninformed opinions make them angry, despite the fact that stories are the result
of significant research and a collection and analysis of facts by educated reporters whereas as Maga opinions are usually fact-free--which is readily
apparent to anyone who's listened to a Maga crazy being interviewed at gangster country jamboree.

They don't like Disney, now; don't like ESPN, don't like any sports or groups that include African Americans

They don't like immigrants--despite the fact that the U.S. is a nation of immigrants.

They don't like gays.

They don't like protesters--unless the protestors are rednecks who attack the U.S. Capitol. That's OK.

Oh, they don't like experts of any kind---especially if experts give them advice or behavioral suggestions that might inconvenience them or
conflict with what they've heard Alex Jones talk about on the radio.

It's a hard way to go through life....
 
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volbound1700 said:
Nintendo+Dreamwork+Universal are a real threat to Disney. Disney better wake up or they may lose their base.

They have ruined Star Wars with poor writing, director change, poor representation of classic characters, etc.

Marvel was good but is run its course now. Only so much you can do with super hero movies at this point. They are starting to get repetitive and many of the original cast are stepping away.

No good animated film since Moana

Constant live-action reboots with no originality.

Meanwhile Dreamworks/Illumination now have three solid hits that Disney can't touch with the Family Audience: Puss and Boots: The Last Wish, Minions: The Rise of Gru, and the Super Mario Brothers Movie.

Mario has already passed Mickey Mouse as the most iconic cartoony character. Nintendo plus movies (if done right) and theme parks has untapped potential. They already got Pokemon (Detective Pikachu) and can bring in Legend of Zelda, Kirby, Donkey Kong, more Mario, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, etc. Endless cartoon franchises that definitely strait up contend against Disney's IP lineup.

It is to be seen whether this is just a 1980s-style drought for Disney or its true downfall but the writing is on the wall and the ball is in their court. They have competition a float against them and their profitability and market continues to slowly decline.
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Unless you were born before 1980 Mickey and Mini are not even characters to revere today. They are outdated and for 5 year olds. For older people it was the nostalgia and that's why the take/took their young. Ask a 20's or 30's year old single person or family with no kids and they are not going to Disney. Disney will go broke with that target audience. The last Toy Story tanked.
 
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VolStrom said:
I know, how dare he represent the people of Florida over this multi-billion dollar company because you know that Disney only cares about their employees and the residents of Florida.
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If he was representing the people of Florida, he wouldn’t leave taxpayers footing the bill for a petty legal battle over a policy disagreement with one of the state’s largest employers and #1 tourism draw.

Disney’s attorneys already punked Desantis once. He should take his L against Disney and Reedy Creek like a man, and stop giving Trump so much ammunition.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Nintendo+Dreamwork+Universal are a real threat to Disney. Disney better wake up or they may lose their base.

They have ruined Star Wars with poor writing, director change, poor representation of classic characters, etc.

Marvel was good but is run its course now. Only so much you can do with super hero movies at this point. They are starting to get repetitive and many of the original cast are stepping away.

No good animated film since Moana

Constant live-action reboots with no originality.

Meanwhile Dreamworks/Illumination now have three solid hits that Disney can't touch with the Family Audience: Puss and Boots: The Last Wish, Minions: The Rise of Gru, and the Super Mario Brothers Movie.

Mario has already passed Mickey Mouse as the most iconic cartoony character. Nintendo plus movies (if done right) and theme parks has untapped potential. They already got Pokemon (Detective Pikachu) and can bring in Legend of Zelda, Kirby, Donkey Kong, more Mario, Pikmin, Animal Crossing, etc. Endless cartoon franchises that definitely strait up contend against Disney's IP lineup.

It is to be seen whether this is just a 1980s-style drought for Disney or its true downfall but the writing is on the wall and the ball is in their court. They have competition a float against them and their profitability and market continues to slowly decline.
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What are you talking about? Since Moana? Ever seen Luca or Coco? Onward? Raya? Lightyear? Turning Red? Encanto?

Disney is doing just fine with the Star Wars franchise. It's not all good but some of it is excellent and all of it sells.

Strong competition only means Disney loses some market power. Disney's IP is so unbelievably valuable, they will never need to worry about their long term.

Puss in Boots did well at the box office? Cool. I bet Encanto has made more just in merch.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What are you talking about? Since Moana? Ever seen Luca or Coco? Onward? Raya? Lightyear? Turning Red? Encanto?

Disney is doing just fine with the Star Wars franchise. It's not all good but some of it is excellent and all of it sells.

Strong competition only means Disney loses some market power. Disney's IP is so unbelievably valuable, they will never need to worry about their long term.

Puss in Boots did well at the box office? Cool. I bet Encanto has made more just in merch.
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By many accounts Lightyear flopped. It ruined the Toy Stories franchise. I haven't seen or bought a Disney movie since Moana.

I'm a big Stars Wars fan and the writing on it has been terrible and Woke like many others.
 
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BreatheUT said:
Unless you were born before 1980 Mickey and Mini are not even characters to revere today. They are outdated and for 5 year olds. For older people it was the nostalgia and that's why the take/took their young. Ask a 20's or 30's year old single person or family with no kids and they are not going to Disney. Disney will go broke with that target audience. The last Toy Story tanked.
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Agree but that is Disney's fault as these characters are underutilized and wasted as an IP.
 
#512
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BreatheUT said:
By many accounts Lightyear flopped. It ruined the Toy Stories franchise. I haven't seen or bought a Disney movie since Moana.

I'm a big Stars Wars fan and the writing on it has been terrible and Woke like many others.
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What does that even mean?

Lightyear made $ at the box office even tho many people like myself just waited for it to be free on D+, and it was a good movie. We bought merchandise. Went and rode the Buzz Lightyear ride after seeing it, too. BL ranks right up there with Spiderman, Hulk, and Ninja Turtles with my 2 YO.
 
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#513
volbound1700 said:
They have ruined Star Wars with poor writing, director change, poor representation of classic characters, etc.
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The prequel trilogy is what ruined the Star Wars film series. Disney had nothing to do with those movies from 1999, 2002 and 2005. George Lucas signed the franchise over to Disney in 2012.

The sequel trilogy wasn't very good either, but there was nothing wrong with Rogue One ... and the streaming service has provided some good Star Wars content as well.
 
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turbovol said:
Most of this is abject nonsense. I could go through it point by point--but you're not worth the time and effort.
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It's because left wingers don't debate merits. You scream racism and when that doesn't work you scream louder about something else of nonsense.
 
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BreatheUT said:
By many accounts Lightyear flopped. It ruined the Toy Stories franchise. I haven't seen or bought a Disney movie since Moana.

I'm a big Stars Wars fan and the writing on it has been terrible and Woke like many others.
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Show me the last Star Wars film which was well-written .... It should be Return of the Jedi from 1983, that you are pointing to.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
The prequel trilogy is what ruined the Star Wars film series. Disney had nothing to do with those movies from 1999, 2002 and 2005. George Lucas signed the franchise over to Disney in 2012.

The sequel trilogy wasn't very good either, but there was nothing wrong with Rogue One ... and the streaming service has provided some good Star Wars content as well.
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The prequels were actually really good imo.
 
#518
#518
n_huffhines said:
That movie is a POS. Rogue One was great
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Return of the Jedi?

Nah ... I loved the scenes in Jabba's Palace, and my favorite scene from any of the Star Wars movies was when Vader/Anakin is dying. Luke tells him, "I can save you." and his father replies, "You already have." It perfectly tied the whole trilogy together.

I agree that Rogue One was good, and I mentioned that it was up above, but in that post I was only talking about the original series, prequel and sequel trilogies.

I thought Solo was okay.
 
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BowlBrother85 said:
Show me the last Star Wars film which was well-written .... It should be Return of the Jedi from 1983, that you are pointing to.
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Episode III had cringe moments but it wasn't that bad.

I do agree Rogue One was great but the sequels don't even feel like Star Wars. At least the prequels feel a little like Star Wars even if they are not the best.

More and more people have been turning off Star Wars for years. Just google Youtube and watch video after video about how bad Star Wars has become.
 
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volbound1700 said:
Episode III had cringe moments but it wasn't that bad.

I do agree Rogue One was great but the sequels don't even feel like Star Wars. At least the prequels feel a little like Star Wars even if they are not the best.

More and more people have been turning off Star Wars for years. Just google Youtube and watch video after video about how bad Star Wars has become.
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It hasn't kept people from paying to see those movies .... How much did The Force Awakens make at the box office? Wasn't it close to a billion?

Close indeed. $936 million.

Star Wars: Episode VII - The Force Awakens - Box Office Mojo
 
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volbound1700 said:
More and more people have been turning off Star Wars for years.
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That simply isn't true.

The quality of the Star Wars movies doesn't matter. People will always pay to see them at the movie theater.

Top Lifetime Grosses - Box Office Mojo

4 of the top 17 grossing movies ever made, are comprised of Star Wars movies produced since the franchise was acquired by Disney in 2012.

#1 Star Wars : The Force Awakens (2015)
#12 Star Wars : The Last Jedi (2017)
#16 Rogue One : A Star Wars Story (2016)
#17 Star Wars : The Rise of Skywalker (2019)

I agree that the quality of these movies have dramatically fallen since the original trilogy, but you are talking out of your butt, when you say that "More and more people have been turning off Star Wars for years." The box office data tells a much different story than that.
 
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n_huffhines said:
What does that even mean?

Lightyear made $ at the box office even tho many people like myself just waited for it to be free on D+, and it was a good movie. We bought merchandise. Went and rode the Buzz Lightyear ride after seeing it, too. BL ranks right up there with Spiderman, Hulk, and Ninja Turtles with my 2 YO.
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Lightyear actually lost a lot of $$$ at box office...

Yes, there are ancillary revenue streams and the D+ impact but Wall Street viewed the results as very negative...
 
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I feel like this Disney vs Desantis is coming across as just high school drama. And lately more petty with Desantis. His recent rant/threat about tolls, etc sounded very childish, emotion driven, and not very professional. I don’t think Disney should have had the control it did with Reddy Creek, and it needed to be fixed. But the way Disney and Desantis have gone about it is all ridiculous.
 
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