Do we really need/want to be in the top 4 going into the SEC tournament?

#29
#29
You mean the 3? The 4 seed gives us a semifinal game with KY. The difference between the 4 and the 5 is getting Thursday off instead of playing the 12. The 3 allows us to avoid KY until the Final. We'd like to avoid having to beat KY to make the NCAAs.
 
#30
#30
govols120 said:
Unless the committee is really that desperate, we aren't getting in as an at-large. You'd want the most favorable draw to win the SEC Tournament, so grabbing a 3 seed would be pretty awesome.
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I like the idea of the 3 seed with either Vandy Miss St getting Big Blue in the semi's. State can match them inside if they don't lose their cool again and Vandy has the potential go just go crazy from 3. Either way, maybe one of them catches lightning in a bottle and knocks off the Cats. And then they have an emotional let down in the Finals and UT finally wins the SECt in a rebuilding year. Hey, a guy can dream.
 
#32
#32
sdowell said:
sorry fellas, but i don't think we will win at l s u. this would put us in the nit. that's really where we need to be going, anyway. that tourney would give this team more chances to win a few games and get some valuable experience for next year. just my :twocents:
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Ok I dont get this. I hear it on sports animal all the time. You always take the NCAA over NIT. Why do you assume we lose in the first round? This team, I feel, can beat any team in the country. Unfortunately due to the inconsistent offense they can lose to anyone as well. But who is to say we display the bad UT in the NCAA? Always take the NCAA. Always
 
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#34
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utvols88 said:
Ok I dont get this. I hear it on sports animal all the time. You always take the NCAA over NIT. Why do you assume we lose in the first round? This team, I feel, can beat any team in the country. Unfortunately due to the inconsistent offense they can lose to anyone as well. But who is to say we display the bad UT in the NCAA? Always take the NCAA. Always
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Also NCAA games are neutral site games. NIT games are played in a home/away format. If UT makes the NIT and doesn't get a home game, they haven't really shown they could win on the road against decent teams. So making the NIT instead of the NCAA's doesn't really increase their odds of a deep run unless they get seeded high enough for home games.
 
#37
#37
If we were not so inconsistent, I would not mind an extra game. The Bye would be nice though. We still have to go on the road for the next two games where we are 2-8.
We have the capability if we want it.
Just show the same desire they had at Florida.
 
#40
#40
zansdad said:
Swap the gains for beating SoCar and Vandy. Winning on the road >>> winning at home for the RPI.
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That would work if SCs RPI wasn't 180+-
5 would be generous for beating them even on the road.
 
#41
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calban said:
That would work if SCs RPI wasn't 180+-
5 would be generous for beating them even on the road.
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The 1.4 points in the win column should over come adding one team's winning percentage to those of the 27 already played. Hopefully UT wins Saturday and we'll know for sure.
 
#42
#42
zansdad said:
The 1.4 points in the win column should over come adding one team's winning percentage to those of the 27 already played. Hopefully UT wins Saturday and we'll know for sure.
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We jumped 8 spots for home win vs ole miss who was in the 60s, why would we only jump 5 for beating vandy who's in the 20's.
 
#44
#44
zansdad said:
The 1.4 points in the win column should over come adding one team's winning percentage to those of the 27 already played. Hopefully UT wins Saturday and we'll know for sure.
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You may be right. (1.4 vs .6)
Maybe we can get some momentum going on the road and into LSU game.
 
#45
#45
calban said:
You may be right. (1.4 vs .6)
Maybe we can get some momentum going on the road and into LSU game.
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Maybe I underestimated the SC game then, maybe it's a +10.

However I see no way vandy isn't +10 when ole miss was +8, vandy rpi is much better.

That'd be great though 10,15 and 10. That's plus 35, that'd put us around 65 heading into sec T.
 
#46
#46
The best we can hope for is 4th and maybe a first round bye.
Bama goes to Ark tonight where they are 17-2 at home and Bama is 3-6 on the road.
THAT would help us. It would make Bama 6-7 while were 7-6.
 
#47
#47
calban said:
You may be right. (1.4 vs .6)
Maybe we can get some momentum going on the road and into LSU game.
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Would be nice to see them win at SoCar and LSU. That way if they do end up on the road in the NIT, they my have some confidence in a hostile environment. While I have my fingers crossed for a NCAA berth, a nice NIT run would be great as well.
 
#48
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bleedingTNorange said:
Maybe I underestimated the SC game then, maybe it's a +10.

However I see no way vandy isn't +10 when ole miss was +8, vandy rpi is much better.

That'd be great though 10,15 and 10. That's plus 35, that'd put us around 65 heading into sec T.
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I'd agree. Keep the 10 for Vandy and raise the 5 some for a road win. It's about a +.09 difference for the SC road win because of the 1.4 and of course it's divided by .25 and only figured on winning percentage.
 
#49
#49
mscc1998 said:
The best we can hope for is 4th and maybe a first round bye.
Bama goes to Ark tonight where they are 17-2 at home and Bama is 3-6 on the road.
THAT would help us. It would make Bama 6-7 while were 7-6.
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Well, since Vandys last 3 games are on the road @ Kentucky, at home against Florida, and @ TBA, it's entirely reasonable (20% per rpiforcast) that they lose all 3. Our odds per the same site for winning out are about 6%. So while these are not great odds, I would put them at as least as likely as a 7-7 football team winning 6 straight games to be Superbowl champs, so there's still some hope.
 
#50
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mscc1998 said:
The best we can hope for is 4th and maybe a first round bye.
Bama goes to Ark tonight where they are 17-2 at home and Bama is 3-6 on the road.
THAT would help us. It would make Bama 6-7 while were 7-6.
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3 is very realistic my friend...

We have to win the last 3
Bama has to lose 1
Vandy needs to lose to uk
 
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